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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Wow well done, mature as usual
So the not full race distance points are only relevant if a race is called off before it ends?
In other words.... if this race had its start postponed and restarted with only 20 minutes left, it would still qualify for full points.
Stupid stupid wording.
In other words.... if this race had its start postponed and restarted with only 20 minutes left, it would still qualify for full points.
Stupid stupid wording.
Oh I've noticed alright. I suppose I shouldn't waste my time, there's some of them still whinging about hill and Schumacher from 94 after allSo am I, how haven’t you noticed this about them
Don’t know what’s got your panties in a twist this morning, you need to relax.
Yes, needs a rehash
I'm fine thanks
Great
It’s embarrassing for the sport that two titles in a row have had rules which were either amended mid race or were unknown to so many in the sport.
Given how teams have an army of lawyers to analyse the rulebooks to find any loopholes it’s a bloody miracle for them to find one which almost nobody knew
Might as well bin the rules about reduced points for not finishing the full race to make it clearer.
And it’s not like Max needed the full points, he was going to be the winner by the next race anyway.
So does that mean Spa last year would now be full points? That’s proper mad surely?
If you go off this it seems the race directors etc knew from the start but it was SkyF1 who didn’t understand the rules, I also noticed 25 points flash up for Max but I’m sure Crofty said the display was wrong.
It’s embarrassing for the sport that two titles in a row have had rules which were either amended mid race or were unknown to so many in the sport.
I mean I hate it too, but the way some of you are desperately trying to downplay Verstappen's title is even more embarassing.
He is quite clearly the best driver on the grid, and would have won it anyway quite easily.
Also rules are there for everyone to see it, no one made them mid race anyway.
No, the rule around what points are awarded for races of that type of scenario was changed after Spa.
My post has nothing to do with Verstappen. He was going to win this championship regardless of today. My issue is with the inconsistency and management of the sport from the regulators to the media. It’s embarrassing.
Meh, Max had been absolutely brilliant this year and has deserved the title. His driving had really improved since last year.
Hoping for a better season next year, it’s been boring since Ferrari bottled it. Going to need a quick Mercedes team to make it interesting.
I haven’t watched today yet but the FIA really do seem to make the rules up as they go along. I don’t think they’re biased in any way just totally incompetent. The race directors have been awful this year as well, especially in terms of not allowing some races to begin due to a bit of rain, and not enabling DRS until way too long into the race after the weather cleared up. Hoping for better next year but I doubt it.
Hoping for a better season next year, it’s been boring since Ferrari bottled it. Going to need a quick Mercedes team to make it interesting.
I haven’t watched today yet but the FIA really do seem to make the rules up as they go along. I don’t think they’re biased in any way just totally incompetent. The race directors have been awful this year as well, especially in terms of not allowing some races to begin due to a bit of rain, and not enabling DRS until way too long into the race after the weather cleared up. Hoping for better next year but I doubt it.
Because it was stopped whilst this one was only ended due to time running out? So theoretically if they restarted this one 30 minutes later and only got 12 laps in it would be full points?
The inconsisteny was down to commentators who said they are getting half points today which wasn't true(I was tricked too). The official FIA graph points was showed mid race and at the end and it said full points were awarded today.
They can be idiots at times, but the only contraversy today from the race and FIA direction was that tractor today that could get Gasly killed.
Yeh, he needs to go to a different team if he wants a world title I think. Ferrari will always implode.
Yep, it's a daft rule. You could have started the race with 10 mins to go of the three hour limit, run two laps, and award full points. Needs refining for next year.
Me thinks the rule book needs to clarify things.Pulling 27 seconds in the wet. Proper drive that.
Full points is correct by the written rule. The problem is just we all didn't read the rule properly.
F1 graphics was showing full points the whole race and commentators just assumed it was wrong. A poorly worded rule but that's F1.
Anyway it's all irrelevant to the outcome.
Full points is correct by the written rule. The problem is just we all didn't read the rule properly.
F1 graphics was showing full points the whole race and commentators just assumed it was wrong. A poorly worded rule but that's F1.
Anyway it's all irrelevant to the outcome.
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Even without the ridiculous mistakes in the first half and if he had his max possible points - they were just not fast enough in the second half of the season though, I think Max would've romped home regardless. He's probably the only (young) driver on the grid capable of beating Max to a WDC any time soon so hopefully Ferrari can sort their shit out.
Fully deserved title for Max, he’s been pretty much flawless all season.
Leclerc is going have to work to reign in some of the errors he has in him for next season.
Can think of 3 fairly major errors by him too this season. Needs to cut that out if he wants a title.
Which errors? He was driving on terrible tires and keeping Perez who was probably more than second and a half quicker than him, probably even more at the end. He was losing that place in the final lap so he pretty much tried cheating because that was the only way to stop Perez overtaking him. The fact that he kept Perez behind him for majority of the race was impressive considering Red Bull's pace.
I swear Leclerc is the only driver here whose slight errors(which aren't even his errors) are exaggareted far more than any other drivers.
His biggest problem is that he is any competitive with Red Bulls in that car, the fact that he even tries to give them race is more than impressive considering they are regulary quickest cars on the grid. So when he can't contain them people accuse him of making big mistakes which is ridiculous, especially today. Ferraris aren't even that quicker than Mercedes, Russel who is pretty poor for couple of races has more points than Sainz ffs.
Just if he wants to beatt the likes of Hamilton and Verstappen if he has an equal car with them then chances are he'd need to avoid the like of Imola, France and even here.
He isn't very error prone at all but he is slightly more so than the likes of Max and Hamilton and that's who he is aspiring to compete with.
And I believe he is the next best driver after those two so I rate him very highly
Really enjoyed listening to Adrian Newey.
fia clearly rewriting the rules again so they could crown max champion before monday’s delayed announcement so they can play the “we don’t want to effect the outcome of the championship with our punishments” card again. notice how there’s an ‘a’ in max and in verstappen? want to know where there is another ‘a’? that’s right, the fi’a’ the prosecution rests, your honour.
He is easily better than Hamilton this season.
Max would have won it no matter now or later. Congrats to him. LeClerc needs to add some more maturity, as do Ferrari. It was quite evident, they were lost at points so far in the season after being out of a championship reckoning for so long. Now just hope, they have wised up to secure the 2nd place in the constructors.
Yeah max would have won it but the real question is would he have won it if red bull had not cheated and overspent on their car? ... if the fia actually enforce their own rules le clerc and ferrari could still win it this year
Looking forward to see who the real champion will be next year when they hand it to max again
Congrats to Max.
Glad I didnt wake up for yet another F1 shit show though.
Glad I didnt wake up for yet another F1 shit show though.
feck me Haas must be training ground for Ferrari strategists. Absolutely fecked Mick today of a hunch of a potential safety car.