F1 2022 Season

JuriM said:
According to twitter rumors, it's Alfa's Vasseur.

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Had an excellent start to the season. Has fallen back a bit as the season has gone on.

He'll fit right in.

ArjenIsM3 said:
Almost everybody on here felt it was a racing incident, even the Hamilton fans thought so. I mean, even Brundle thought so and that's saying something. The statement Max made gets misinterpreted and he's made further comments clarifying this. For example he's said he'd do it all again because he feels he was alongside enough to be given at least a cars width of space which Hamilton certainly did not provide. Max committed to the move but right away felt Hamilton wouldn't give him the space he needed and would collide and he was right but he didn't really have anywhere to go at that point. Would he have made the corner if Hamilton left a cars width, we don't know. He'd probably need to lift or brake and he's also said if Hamilton had left the space Hamilton would still likely come out ahead because he'd have a better exit. It's not unlike the Silverstone incident in that regard except the roles are reversed here and Max did at least leave a car's width then and Max was further alongside here in Brazil than Hamilton was at Silverstone. These factors are probably why Hamilton was given a bigger penalty at Silverstone than Max was here. Honestly I felt like it was Lewis' fault at first since he slammed the door shut and didn't leave any space while Max was well alongside but after hearing all the arguments I was like alright racing incident then like everyone on here said in the first place. I still don't feel the penalty is correct and I think it sets a dangerous precedent that could limit the wheel to wheel racing we all love to see even more. Mind you I think the penalty would have been correct if Hamilton left the space and Max still crashed into him but that's not what happened here sadly.
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I agree the rules might be flawed and counter to wheel to wheel racing.

But they are clear:

Max was never fully alongside. He carried too much speed into the corner. On both counts, Lewis had no obligation in the rules to give Max space or leave the fastest racing line, and Max should have backed out.

Lewis should have given Max more room to avoid an incident, but Max had the greater obligation in the rulebook to back out. The severity of the punishment was deserved given it could have cost Lewis his first win of the season, Max's history of similar incidents and Max's insistence that he would break the rules and crash into another driver who was entitled to the racing line again.
 
11101 said:
I suspect his sheer speed has something to do with it. He has been so dominant his whole career I don't think he's ever had the need to perfect his racecraft, he usually just drove away from everybody, in both karting and junior formulas. It's only now he's in F1 has he encountered drivers who can match him for speed and he has never learned how to go wheel to wheel with them.
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He did last year though.
 
Max will probably be on Piers Morgan next week claiming he was disrespected by his team because they asked him to drop 2 points to help out someone who constantly helps him out, and rightly so. Also he'll probably tell them all about Checo's affairs, and that Horner definitely fecks his horses.
 
Massive Spanner said:
Max will probably be on Piers Morgan next week claiming he was disrespected by his team because they asked him to drop 2 points to help out someone who constantly helps him out, and rightly so. Also he'll probably tell them all about Checo's affairs, and that Horner definitely fecks his horses.
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That's not a very nice thing to say about Geri.
 
11101 said:
Yeah, and look how well that went. Virtually killed the integrity of the sport in the eyes of many long time F1 fans.
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Yes indeed. I am one of those life long F1 fans. Ever since Jim Clark and the Lotus 49 and beginning of Cosworth Ford.
Last season was full of drama right up to the appalling end. Something that certainly made me think twice about whether I still believed in the sport.
And RB exceeding the budget cap only made that worse.

This season, unless you are an avid Verstappen fan, did nothing to enthuse.
But Mercedes progress at the very end of this year gives me hope that next season will be worth watching.

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And for what it is worth, I can honestly say without hesitation that Lewis Hamilton is the very best F1 driver I have seen.
 
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klsv said:
Schumacher officially replaced by Hülkenberg at Haas.
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Understandable. He hasn't done well enough. Doesn't even have any pole positions.

Also, partnering Hülkenberg and Magnussen is interesting to say the least. The Drive to Survive team must be fully erect.
 
Mike Smalling said:
Understandable. He hasn't done well enough. Doesn't even have any pole positions.

Also, partnering Hülkenberg and Magnussen is interesting to say the least. The Drive to Survive team must be fully erect.
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The quicker he can get away from the Haas shit show the better. Steiner is a joke of a team manager and has continually set that team back year after year with his bullshit.

That’s not even including the fecking muppet that is doing their strategies because they even make Ferrari look good.

Mick is fast, there is zero doubt it. There’s a saying in Motorsport that you can teach a quick driver to stop making mistakes, you can’t teach a slow driver to be fast…
 
mariachi-19 said:
The quicker he can get away from the Haas shit show the better. Steiner is a joke of a team manager and has continually set that team back year after year with his bullshit.

That’s not even including the fecking muppet that is doing their strategies because they even make Ferrari look good.

Mick is fast, there is zero doubt it. There’s a saying in Motorsport that you can teach a quick driver to stop making mistakes, you can’t teach a slow driver to be fast…
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I had a look through quali results and he's often 2-5 tenths off kmag. There could be a story with all these sessions but he hasn't stood out as fast or extra talented.
 
redshaw said:
I had a look through quali results and he's often 2-5 tenths off kmag. There could be a story with all these sessions but he hasn't stood out as fast or extra talented.
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He's a bad qualifier but a better racer. He never got a pole in 2 seasons of F2 either.

I do think he deserved 1 more season but for whatever reason Haas don't want him to continue. I guess the early big crashes put him in a bad place.
 
Adam-Utd said:
He's a bad qualifier but a better racer. He never got a pole in 2 seasons of F2 either.

I do think he deserved 1 more season but for whatever reason Haas don't want him to continue. I guess the early big crashes put him in a bad place.
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He's scored twice during the season. For comparison, Magnussen has scored points nine times, when you include sprint races (six times without). Add the very expensive crashes on top of that. Quite simply he has severely underperformed his teammate.

That being said, he is not worse than a driver like Tsunoda, who arguably should also not have a seat next year.
 
Mike Smalling said:
He's scored twice during the season. For comparison, Magnussen has scored points nine times, when you include sprint races (six times without). Add the very expensive crashes on top of that. Quite simply he has severely underperformed his teammate.

That being said, he is not worse than a driver like Tsunoda, who arguably should also not have a seat next year.
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Kmag is frankly a more experienced and more talented driver. Him coming back into f1 and beating Mick isn't all that surprising really.

It'll be interesting to see how well Hulkenburg can match up to Kmag. That is a risk in itself as he's been inactive so long.
 
Theres rumours mick is joining mercedes as a reserve driver. Helps to have the schmacher name....
 
Enough of this Max talk, this weekend belongs to Vettel, went from being a thundercnut at Red Bull to one of the most respected guys in F1.

 
ArjenIsM3 said:
Yeah she should have.

Really? Max is the problem and not the toxic (social) media?
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If you dont like social media, especially if your famous, then why go on there? Hes been a prat he knows it, everyone knows it.

He created the problem.
 
hp88 said:
Enough of this Max talk, this weekend belongs to Vettel, went from being a thundercnut at Red Bull to one of the most respected guys in F1.

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Did not expect that clip to end with George talking about his extra large helmet.
 
dinostar77 said:
If you dont like social media, especially if your famous, then why go on there? Hes been a prat he knows it, everyone knows it.

He created the problem.
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No one with a brain likes social media. They're still on it.
 
Red Bull basically doubling down on backing Max, they are a classless act. It could have been resolved with a simple apology from Max and now it’s exploding into a genuine character issue. It’s truly Max’s team and nobody else’s.
 
dinostar77 said:
If you dont like social media, especially if your famous, then why go on there? Hes been a prat he knows it, everyone knows it.

He created the problem.
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Seriously? It's not about liking social media or not at all. It's about not tolerating the abusive and toxic messages people spout on there, especially against his family. That's what he's speaking out against. That and all the shite stirring lies and speculation from the media. He couldn't care less whether people like him or not.
 
ArjenIsM3 said:
Seriously? It's not about liking social media or not at all. It's about not tolerating the abusive and toxic messages people spout on there, especially against his family. That's what he's speaking out against. That and all the shite stirring lies and speculation from the media. He couldn't care less whether people like him or not.
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Verstappen can't be taken seriously on this topic when his Mum is out there telling the world on Instagram his team mate has cheated on his wife in Monaco.
 
F-Red said:
Verstappen can't be taken seriously on this topic when his Mum is out there telling the world on Instagram his team mate has cheated on his wife in Monaco.
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Yeah, Max failed to follow team orders and somehow the narrative switches to how his teammate cheated twice at Monaco.
 
dinostar77 said:
Theres rumours mick is joining mercedes as a reserve driver. Helps to have the schmacher name....
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https://f1bytes.com/2022-h2h-mag-v-msc/

Helps to be a decent driver who statistically is a better race driver than k-mag this year. Haas being a shitbox for most rounds and some horrendous strategy decisions fecked mick this year.

Needs not forget that despite pole for Kevin, Schumacher finished better than him at Brazil.

My prediction that he would do better than K-May after round 8 was correct. It’s a pitty Haas couldn’t deliver on their end of the deal and went backwards as the season progressed
 
Surprised Schumacher didn't try and line up a drive at AT can only assume RB didn't want him or he thought he could stay at Haas.
 
ZIDANE said:
Surprised Schumacher didn't try and line up a drive at AT can only assume RB didn't want him or he thought he could stay at Haas.
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Being the merc test driver is probably a step up, teams will get to see how he handles a car that is built for drivers, he’s only 23 some of the greats didn’t get a start till they were older
 
mariachi-19 said:
https://f1bytes.com/2022-h2h-mag-v-msc/

Helps to be a decent driver who statistically is a better race driver than k-mag this year. Haas being a shitbox for most rounds and some horrendous strategy decisions fecked mick this year.

Needs not forget that despite pole for Kevin, Schumacher finished better than him at Brazil.

My prediction that he would do better than K-May after round 8 was correct. It’s a pitty Haas couldn’t deliver on their end of the deal and went backwards as the season progressed
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Mick has done absolutely nothing to indicate hes a top talent. Hes in f1 because of who his dad is.
 
mariachi-19 said:
The quicker he can get away from the Haas shit show the better. Steiner is a joke of a team manager and has continually set that team back year after year with his bullshit.

That’s not even including the fecking muppet that is doing their strategies because they even make Ferrari look good.

Mick is fast, there is zero doubt it. There’s a saying in Motorsport that you can teach a quick driver to stop making mistakes, you can’t teach a slow driver to be fast…
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There is doubt though. Even if he was fast (he’s not, KMag is faster, and he got dropped from F1), he’s crashy. And not Verstappen crashy, where he’s going to get you amazing results far beyond the machine capabilities sometimes, which mitigated the cost crashy. Expensive crashy. For a poor team.

He absolutely deserves to be dropped. Nice guy & talented driver. But he probably wouldn’t have even got into an f1 seat it wasn’t for his name.
 
mariachi-19 said:
https://f1bytes.com/2022-h2h-mag-v-msc/

Helps to be a decent driver who statistically is a better race driver than k-mag this year. Haas being a shitbox for most rounds and some horrendous strategy decisions fecked mick this year.

Needs not forget that despite pole for Kevin, Schumacher finished better than him at Brazil.

My prediction that he would do better than K-May after round 8 was correct. It’s a pitty Haas couldn’t deliver on their end of the deal and went backwards as the season progressed
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Didnt Magnussen get taken out by Ricciardo?
 
if someone told me 10 years ago that these two would be up there with my favourite drivers I would have laughed in their face. I guess opinions change :)

 
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