Well, we haven't seen RB like this for quite some time. Zero chance that Max gets anywhere near P1, so that's the streak gone. Only just got that record in last week. Should make for a really interesting race though.
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I wouldnt rule it out. It might be a different story when the tyres get up to race temp and bite into the surface. Also RB normally set the car up for race trim not qually trim.
weren’t Merc traditionally awful at Singapore as well?
Not at all , 2014-18 4 wins out of 5
Nah, this is way different. They're nowhere near it, and this isn't the type of track where he can glide through the field. By the time he even gets close to the Ferrari's in terms of grid position (if he even does) they'll be way out front.
Also, you have the penalty situation. I'd be amazed if he isn't penalised.
Lewis Hamilton admitted that he had made the wrong set-up choices overnight heading into today's qualifying session for the Singapore Grand Prix at Marina Bay Street Circuit.
Mercedes has been looking strong all weekend, and Hamilton was fifth fastest ahead of team mate George Russell in first practice on Friday.
But as Russell made further progress in the ensuing session, Hamilton struggled to keep up: he was fifth again in FP2 before dropping to sixth in Saturday's final session.
While Russell continued to pressure Carlos Sainz for the top spot in qualifying, Hamilton was only eighth in Q2. He was last to run in the final round, but while Russell came within 0.072s of pole, Hamilton was half a second behind in P5.
“It is the hardest car that I’ve ever driven to get right,” Hamilton told the media after the end of the session, adding that he had "“made a set-up change last night and it didn’t work".
"The car was good yesterday on the long run but I changed the car overnight and now I don’t know what’s going to happen tomorrow with the car," he admitted.
"The car was feeling incredible yesterday and we had hoped that with some tweaks, we'd be able to challenge the Ferraris. We made some pretty big changes overnight, and it just came away from me again. We didn't have the speed today.
"It's obviously disappointing, especially because we clearly had a great package here and George was able to get on the front row."
"Lewis wasn't as happy with the car through the sessions," explained Mercedes' trackside engineering director Andrew Shovlin, who said that it meant Hamilton had been "struggling to get the tyres to switch on"
"Some of that was when the outlaps were compromised with traffic, but even on the final run he didn't feel that the grip was there," Shovlin added.
Although Hamilton was disappointed not to be higher up the grid, he was delighted to see Russell split the Ferraris to start on the front row tomorrow alongside Sainz.
“I’m really happy for George,” Hamilton insisted. “I think he did a mega job. He’s just been connected with the car all weekend.
Hamilton regretting Singapore overnight set-up choice (f1i.com)
Mercedes has been looking strong all weekend, and Hamilton was fifth fastest ahead of team mate George Russell in first practice on Friday.
But as Russell made further progress in the ensuing session, Hamilton struggled to keep up: he was fifth again in FP2 before dropping to sixth in Saturday's final session.
While Russell continued to pressure Carlos Sainz for the top spot in qualifying, Hamilton was only eighth in Q2. He was last to run in the final round, but while Russell came within 0.072s of pole, Hamilton was half a second behind in P5.
“It is the hardest car that I’ve ever driven to get right,” Hamilton told the media after the end of the session, adding that he had "“made a set-up change last night and it didn’t work".
"The car was good yesterday on the long run but I changed the car overnight and now I don’t know what’s going to happen tomorrow with the car," he admitted.
"The car was feeling incredible yesterday and we had hoped that with some tweaks, we'd be able to challenge the Ferraris. We made some pretty big changes overnight, and it just came away from me again. We didn't have the speed today.
"It's obviously disappointing, especially because we clearly had a great package here and George was able to get on the front row."
"Lewis wasn't as happy with the car through the sessions," explained Mercedes' trackside engineering director Andrew Shovlin, who said that it meant Hamilton had been "struggling to get the tyres to switch on"
"Some of that was when the outlaps were compromised with traffic, but even on the final run he didn't feel that the grip was there," Shovlin added.
Although Hamilton was disappointed not to be higher up the grid, he was delighted to see Russell split the Ferraris to start on the front row tomorrow alongside Sainz.
“I’m really happy for George,” Hamilton insisted. “I think he did a mega job. He’s just been connected with the car all weekend.
Hamilton regretting Singapore overnight set-up choice (f1i.com)
That was fun! Maybe even expecting a Russel win tomorrow, Ferrari won't be this quick in race, I think that's obvious.
Lawson is once again very impressive.
Their set-up seems all wrong, I don't think I've seen their car all over the place in last two years in total as today over one lap. They looked like they were driving Ferrari.
Lawson is once again very impressive.
Their set-up seems all wrong, I don't think I've seen their car all over the place in last two years in total as today over one lap. They looked like they were driving Ferrari.
Stewards on Max impeding Tsunoda incident.
Who can explain to me why Haas managed to do so well suddenly?
Kevin was of course asked that in the post quali interview. He said it was really easy to get the tyres in the window, and the balance was spot on.
So no position penalty? Why does all that guff have to be so complicated
Sounds like they operated off precedent in other similar incidents before. If that's true, I m okay with it. All I want is for FIA to be consistent.
Well they aren’t going to write “contrary to other incidents, we…”
I’m not that bothered either way. But Tsunoda likely would have gotten to Q3 without that you might have thought.
"Any chance the new technical directive has influenced you going from 1st in every single race to immediately 11th?"
"Nah not at all"
"Nah not at all"
Looks like they don't know how to set up the car to compensate for the change in technical directive.
They're running the exact same floor as Monza...
Yeah this is a very interesting read that seems to support it is very track specific and he ties it back to the RBs having to lift thru Eau Rouge because of the same: https://the-race.com/formula-1/mark-hughes-why-red-bulls-f1-car-is-suddenly-undriveable/
Its basically saying that cars with a higher ride height that never fully got a handle on porpoising actually have a benefit at this track.
Makes you wonder though if the car is going to be equally vulnerable on the bumps of Austin, or perhaps also Vegas (which i doubt will have a proper smooth surface).
In a post race interview Max was saying the car was bottoming out and lifting the front tyres up causing havoc.
Could be large bumps or mounds specific to this track and similar to a Spa where a section could lift the car due to its strong ground effect.
Could be large bumps or mounds specific to this track and similar to a Spa where a section could lift the car due to its strong ground effect.
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So today's race might actually be worth a watch then?
I wonder if, for the other teams seeing where the Adrian Newey design doesn't work, they can now more easily figure out its secrets.
It's partly ride height and having too soft suspension and also partly the fact they cant generate any tyre heat on the low abrasion surface here. Think what they were dealing with in qualy was an ungodly combination of stone cold tyres, front tyres unloading due to bumps and then the ever present transmission problems that unsettled the rear when trying to put the power down.
Mercedes to have better race pace than the Ferraris ??? CAN LANDO WIN HIS FIRST RACE!?
I think Russel could win this. Ferrari to feck up at least one driver.
Hopefully, Max can make his way through the grid sharpish here (although unlikely) and get a safety car or something. I really don't see him getting on the podium unfortunately.
I love the colour on that Williams car
The only thing Ferrari have to worry about really is themselves.
A Norris win would be good, Russell could get it also.
Still not ruling out Max being on the podium
A Norris win would be good, Russell could get it also.
Still not ruling out Max being on the podium
And as we know, that's actually quite a lot to worry about!
Hamilton taking out half the track there
Lewis haha. What
piss poor start from Russell and Lewis having to go off the track
Crofty is so fecking thick
Lewis had no other choice but needs to give the place back
Poor Yuki.
WTH Lewis though. He gained so much advantage there that even a 5 sec penalty or giving the place to George will be a joke by the end of the race.
WTH Lewis though. He gained so much advantage there that even a 5 sec penalty or giving the place to George will be a joke by the end of the race.
disagree with Norris, it seems like he wasn’t braking that late rather he got edged off from Russell
You what? Are you watching the same race?
It will be interesting to see what happens to Lewis, I want to see it again.
I mean... he could have slowed down and made the corner Lewis..