F1 2023 Season

Anyone been to any races in past few years?

Thinking about going to Hungaroring next year, seems to be the cheapest and easiest option for me(it's just 4 hours ride from my home), and even though the racing itself isn't that great there, the track layout is good for watching from the stands, on many parts you can see almost the entire track, so that's good.
 
Ross Brawn has claimed F1 will consider introducing a new system which would make the leader slower in races in a move that would see the sport allow the back-runners to catch up to those out in front, like in some racing video games. The tool would be a form of active aerodynamics which could work as a reverse DRS to bring cars closer together.

The implementation could see race leaders could lose downforce to make it more difficult to control their cars and stay ahead. Brawn is clear that F1 has not decided they will go ahead with the plans but stressed it could be an "opportunity".

He told Autosport Magazine: "But, active aerodynamics, we semi have them at the moment with DRS, as DRS is active aerodynamics. But can you do something much more significant?

"If you have active aerodynamics, then of course you could affect the car in front. You could have a proximity [that] once you get within a certain degree, the car in front loses a little bit of downforce and you gain a little bit of downforce. There's tricks you can play with that. It becomes an opportunity.

F1 may introduce new rule like something from Mario Kart after Max Verstappen dominance (msn.com)
 
pauldyson1uk said:
Ross Brawn has claimed F1 will consider introducing a new system which would make the leader slower in races in a move that would see the sport allow the back-runners to catch up to those out in front, like in some racing video games. The tool would be a form of active aerodynamics which could work as a reverse DRS to bring cars closer together.

The implementation could see race leaders could lose downforce to make it more difficult to control their cars and stay ahead. Brawn is clear that F1 has not decided they will go ahead with the plans but stressed it could be an "opportunity".

He told Autosport Magazine: "But, active aerodynamics, we semi have them at the moment with DRS, as DRS is active aerodynamics. But can you do something much more significant?

"If you have active aerodynamics, then of course you could affect the car in front. You could have a proximity [that] once you get within a certain degree, the car in front loses a little bit of downforce and you gain a little bit of downforce. There's tricks you can play with that. It becomes an opportunity.

F1 may introduce new rule like something from Mario Kart after Max Verstappen dominance (msn.com)
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I did post about this on the previous page pauldy. :) RE: Reverse DRS
 
pauldyson1uk said:
Ross Brawn has claimed F1 will consider introducing a new system which would make the leader slower in races in a move that would see the sport allow the back-runners to catch up to those out in front, like in some racing video games. The tool would be a form of active aerodynamics which could work as a reverse DRS to bring cars closer together.

The implementation could see race leaders could lose downforce to make it more difficult to control their cars and stay ahead. Brawn is clear that F1 has not decided they will go ahead with the plans but stressed it could be an "opportunity".

He told Autosport Magazine: "But, active aerodynamics, we semi have them at the moment with DRS, as DRS is active aerodynamics. But can you do something much more significant?

"If you have active aerodynamics, then of course you could affect the car in front. You could have a proximity [that] once you get within a certain degree, the car in front loses a little bit of downforce and you gain a little bit of downforce. There's tricks you can play with that. It becomes an opportunity.

F1 may introduce new rule like something from Mario Kart after Max Verstappen dominance (msn.com)
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Yay, more artificial racing.
 
SilentWitness said:
Yay, more artificial racing.
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F1 has done something like this many times to try to even the playing field. The hight of Schumacher's domination saw big rule changes to end his dominance. Nothing new.

I was reading an article were some F1 "experts" rated the teams driver duo's.
The question is how would you lot class the 10 driver duo's? Just for reference they had Williams duo in 10th and the Mercs 1st.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
Ross Brawn has claimed F1 will consider introducing a new system which would make the leader slower in races in a move that would see the sport allow the back-runners to catch up to those out in front, like in some racing video games. The tool would be a form of active aerodynamics which could work as a reverse DRS to bring cars closer together.

The implementation could see race leaders could lose downforce to make it more difficult to control their cars and stay ahead. Brawn is clear that F1 has not decided they will go ahead with the plans but stressed it could be an "opportunity".

He told Autosport Magazine: "But, active aerodynamics, we semi have them at the moment with DRS, as DRS is active aerodynamics. But can you do something much more significant?

"If you have active aerodynamics, then of course you could affect the car in front. You could have a proximity [that] once you get within a certain degree, the car in front loses a little bit of downforce and you gain a little bit of downforce. There's tricks you can play with that. It becomes an opportunity.

F1 may introduce new rule like something from Mario Kart after Max Verstappen dominance (msn.com)
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Not for me. If the lead driver can pull away from the pack then that's part of the sport. It's like saying with Arsenal 5 points clear they have to play with 10 men.
 
Amar__ said:
Anyone been to any races in past few years?

Thinking about going to Hungaroring next year, seems to be the cheapest and easiest option for me(it's just 4 hours ride from my home), and even though the racing itself isn't that great there, the track layout is good for watching from the stands, on many parts you can see almost the entire track, so that's good.
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Was in Hungary this year but didn’t stay for the race unfortunately. Lovely city though if you can stay an extra few days. Will definitely be going back with the other half.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
Ross Brawn has claimed F1 will consider introducing a new system which would make the leader slower in races in a move that would see the sport allow the back-runners to catch up to those out in front, like in some racing video games. The tool would be a form of active aerodynamics which could work as a reverse DRS to bring cars closer together.
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Disgusting idea.

Bad enough in racing games but in real life? What a joke.
 
Jack-C20 said:
Was in Hungary this year but didn’t stay for the race unfortunately. Lovely city though if you can stay an extra few days. Will definitely be going back with the other half.
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Yeah, I visited Budapest in April too and went to see the track but it was closed.
 
Amar__ said:
Yeah, I visited Budapest in April too and went to see the track but it was closed.
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Ah fair enough. I didn’t get to see much of the track either. Sounds ridiculous but it always surprises me just how big the circuits really are. Looks small when the cars are flying around them on TV. I’d like to do Silverstone but it was stupidly expensive this year. It may even be cheaper for me to go to somewhere like Spain or Holland.
 
Jack-C20 said:
Ah fair enough. I didn’t get to see much of the track either. Sounds ridiculous but it always surprises me just how big the circuits really are. Looks small when the cars are flying around them on TV. I’d like to do Silverstone but it was stupidly expensive this year. It may even be cheaper for me to go to somewhere like Spain or Holland.
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Actually the Hungaroring isn't that big, looked pretty compact. I wanted to go to Monza last year and it was very expensive last year, and I couldn't find the tickets anyway, so I gave up.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
Ross Brawn has claimed F1 will consider introducing a new system which would make the leader slower in races in a move that would see the sport allow the back-runners to catch up to those out in front, like in some racing video games. The tool would be a form of active aerodynamics which could work as a reverse DRS to bring cars closer together.

The implementation could see race leaders could lose downforce to make it more difficult to control their cars and stay ahead. Brawn is clear that F1 has not decided they will go ahead with the plans but stressed it could be an "opportunity".

He told Autosport Magazine: "But, active aerodynamics, we semi have them at the moment with DRS, as DRS is active aerodynamics. But can you do something much more significant?

"If you have active aerodynamics, then of course you could affect the car in front. You could have a proximity [that] once you get within a certain degree, the car in front loses a little bit of downforce and you gain a little bit of downforce. There's tricks you can play with that. It becomes an opportunity.

F1 may introduce new rule like something from Mario Kart after Max Verstappen dominance (msn.com)
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Ross come back to Ferrari and stop fecking around with how to lose races, DRS is bad enough fake racing but this would be beyond a joke.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
Ross Brawn has claimed F1 will consider introducing a new system which would make the leader slower in races in a move that would see the sport allow the back-runners to catch up to those out in front, like in some racing video games. The tool would be a form of active aerodynamics which could work as a reverse DRS to bring cars closer together.

The implementation could see race leaders could lose downforce to make it more difficult to control their cars and stay ahead. Brawn is clear that F1 has not decided they will go ahead with the plans but stressed it could be an "opportunity".

He told Autosport Magazine: "But, active aerodynamics, we semi have them at the moment with DRS, as DRS is active aerodynamics. But can you do something much more significant?

"If you have active aerodynamics, then of course you could affect the car in front. You could have a proximity [that] once you get within a certain degree, the car in front loses a little bit of downforce and you gain a little bit of downforce. There's tricks you can play with that. It becomes an opportunity.

F1 may introduce new rule like something from Mario Kart after Max Verstappen dominance (msn.com)
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I thought that the budget cap was supposed to do this by creating more of a level playing field.

What is needed is not to artificially slow down the leaders but to allow more than 1 team to dominate.
And hopefully we might get that next year if Mercedes and Ferrari can challenge Red Bull.
 
Buster15 said:
I thought that the budget cap was supposed to do this by creating more of a level playing field.

What is needed is not to artificially slow down the leaders but to allow more than 1 team to dominate.
And hopefully we might get that next year if Mercedes and Ferrari can challenge Red Bull.
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fully agree, I am hoping 1 or 2 teams other than Merc and Ferrari can challenge RB
 
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Is he not fully compos mentis?

Similar to the little nonsensical rant he made trying to defend Rao.
 
Red Bull don't get special treatment though :wenger: Could this guy be a bigger fanboy if he tried ? sheesh.

Probably got Verstappen posters on his bedroom wall too
 
Fred Vassuer apparently signed a deal with ferrari at hungry gp according to some reports.
 
Jost Capito (CEO & Team Principal) & FX Demaison (Technical Director) have left Williams.
 
Talks of Seidl moving to Sauber as Team Principal this morning as well, probably one of the early Audi influenced signings.
 
F-Red said:
Talks of Seidl moving to Sauber as Team Principal this morning as well, probably one of the early Audi influenced signings.
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Confirmed now, totally an Audi move incoming.

Andrea Stella now TP at McLaren.......be interesting to see what he can do but I reckon that's a downgrade really, or a punt at least.
 
Leg-End said:
Confirmed now, totally an Audi move incoming.

Andrea Stella now TP at McLaren.......be interesting to see what he can do but I reckon that's a downgrade really, or a punt at least.
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Think it's more a 'there isn't many better options' so better to promote within and keep the ship steady.

Losing Seidl is a big loss as he's really turned Mclaren around since he joined.
 
Adam-Utd said:
Think it's more a 'there isn't many better options' so better to promote within and keep the ship steady.

Losing Seidl is a big loss as he's really turned Mclaren around since he joined.
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Yeah, I imagine Zak has massive influence anyway so its a sideways move.
 
Leg-End said:
Confirmed now, totally an Audi move incoming.

Andrea Stella now TP at McLaren.......be interesting to see what he can do but I reckon that's a downgrade really, or a punt at least.
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Not a huge suprise as they have history together outside of F1 (siedl and audi).
 
No question Lando is going to be eyeing up a McLaren exit to replace Hamilton or Perez, whichever needs replacing first. Losing Seidl just another reminder McLaren are gone and not coming back any time soon.
 
Well that probably rules out Danny RIC going to join Audi with Seidl in charge.
 
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