F1 2023 Season

I agree with that, I just think they could do more with the access they get. Maybe the drivers and teams aren't all that giddy about having even more cameras shoved in their faces all the time but for example when they set up an entire room to do those one-on-one interviews and all they get from an entire season is basically 4 sentences worth of interesting material you have to wonder if they're even bothered.

I'm now a complete expert in how to hold up an access card to the gates that lets people in to the paddock though so I guess those 10 episodes weren't a complete loss.

Do they actually have that much access?

Most of the new footage from last season I thought was filmed at a really small number of Grand Prix.
 
Not looking very good in terms of competition, it's seems like the usual story where the team that nailed the new regs run away with it until the next big rewrite.
 
Do they actually have that much access?

Most of the new footage from last season I thought was filmed at a really small number of Grand Prix.

They get to tag along with team bosses and drivers to their homes, offices, factories, follow them into the team kitchen before breakfast and set up cameras in their cars etc so I'd say they have a lot more access than most. Either way I think they have enough to ask people some interesting questions and maybe drag some info out of someone that isn't the same generic stuff that anyone in the paddock with a smart phone could get hold of.
 
Aston Martin have refused to rule out the possibility of Sebastian Vettel making a shock comeback at the season-opening Bahrain Grand Prix.

Team principal Mike Krack admitted he had spoken to the four-time champion since Aston Martin's Lance Stroll was forced to miss pre-season testing.

But he refused to say whether Vettel, who retired at the end of last season, had expressed an interest in being a stand-in.

Stroll has suffered a wrist injury.

Krack said "Plan A" was for Stroll to recover in time for next weekend's race.

He added: "Plan B we will speak about next week."

Krack said: "I have had a couple of phone calls with Sebastian but this has been also [the case] last year and will continue in the future."

Asked whether Vettel had said he was prepared to come back in the event Aston Martin needed a driver to substitute for Stroll, Krack said: "I will not tell you."

"First our plan is to have Lance in the car and then we continue to see," he said, adding: "You can ask me five times, we have not made a final decision."

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/64772999

Alonso vs Vettel.. That will be fun to watch.

If you’re their reserve driver you’ve gotta be pissed off. I personally don't see this happening. I doubt Vettel would be fit enough.
 
If you’re their reserve driver you’ve gotta be pissed off. I personally don't see this happening. I doubt Vettel would be fit enough.
Well yes and no, I believe their most experienced reserve driver Stoffel Vandoorne (Formula E champion) is unavailable due to Formula E stuff so they only have the relatively inexperienced Drugovich to fall back on. He hasn't really impressed so far in my opinion so I can see why they'd ring Vettel. If I were Vettel I'd say no though. He's just said his goodbyes to the sport and so it would be weird to be back on the track during the first race of the next season :lol:
 
I think we'll see an announcement from Aston Martin that Drugovich will replace Stroll for the first two races after this test.

Aston have come out as expected, and I fully expect Drugovich to continue in Saudi Arabia as I doubt Stroll can recover from two broken wrists in 3 weeks. Australia could be the earliest return for him.

 
I am happy that the Michael Owen of F1 continues his form:
Every driver wants to win pole. That means he will have 19 drivers behind him on the grid come race day.
 
Mercedes engineers claim to have noticed that the Aston Martin has similar good qualities in the corners as the Red Bull.

Mercedes expects a very strong Aston Martin.

Toto: "According to our calculations, the Aston Martin could end up in second place."

 
Mercedes engineers claim to have noticed that the Aston Martin has similar good qualities in the corners as the Red Bull.

Mercedes expects a very strong Aston Martin.

Toto: "According to our calculations, the Aston Martin could end up in second place."


Mercedes will be in trouble next weekend. You have to question continuing with the slim sidepod design, when no one else on the grid is doing similar.

It will be interesting to see how close Alonso is in Q3 to the Ferraris and RedBulls.
 
Mercedes engineers claim to have noticed that the Aston Martin has similar good qualities in the corners as the Red Bull.

Mercedes expects a very strong Aston Martin.

Toto: "According to our calculations, the Aston Martin could end up in second place."


AM is obviously very good under braking (potentially due to a high downforce setup) - but if they setup like that in the race they might get gobbled up by the DRS
 
Didn't know Merc doubled down on the thin side pod. If they have gotten it wrong again now that would be hilarious
 
Both RB and Mercedes are wary of AM going into next weekend. Alonso back in the fight for podiums and maybe even wins would be terrific.
 
Both RB and Mercedes are wary of AM going into next weekend. Alonso back in the fight for podiums and maybe even wins would be terrific.

Alonso winning a race again would be the best thing for F1.

If they can compete with Merc and Ferrari at least that's literally setting a cat amongst pigeons.
 
Can't fecking wait for the season to start.

I reckon Ferrari and RB will start neck and neck but who knows really.

Also would love if Aston where atleast as good as Mercedes. Alonso finally having a good car again would be great to watch.

Seeing him race Lewis again potentially race Max for the first time would be great.

I doubt it will happen though I'd say the top 3 will still be too far ahead
 
They get to tag along with team bosses and drivers to their homes, offices, factories, follow them into the team kitchen before breakfast and set up cameras in their cars etc so I'd say they have a lot more access than most. Either way I think they have enough to ask people some interesting questions and maybe drag some info out of someone that isn't the same generic stuff that anyone in the paddock with a smart phone could get hold of.

Yeah agree. I guess my point is that Netflix tends to overhype their access as all areas, 24/7, when in terms of actual footage it feels like they get one or two hours at the team principal's house, a couple of talking heads and backstage footage for about 4 races, and then probably have to pay to use F1s actual footage.

But it amounts to the same thing, which is the show feels shallow and stretched out. I think I'd prefer a All or Nothing show focussed on one or two teams (especially smaller teams) with actual unfettered access, than a broad and generic product which feels shallow and generic to anyone who watches the sport.
 
Will be tough to improve on last season. Aim for a UK top 3 I guess.
 
Yeah agree. I guess my point is that Netflix tends to overhype their access as all areas, 24/7, when in terms of actual footage it feels like they get one or two hours at the team principal's house, a couple of talking heads and backstage footage for about 4 races, and then probably have to pay to use F1s actual footage.

But it amounts to the same thing, which is the show feels shallow and stretched out. I think I'd prefer a All or Nothing show focussed on one or two teams (especially smaller teams) with actual unfettered access, than a broad and generic product which feels shallow and generic to anyone who watches the sport.

An All or Nothing show would be fantastic, some of the smaller teams would probably love the idea of the extra exposure and new fans it would bring as well.
 
The new season could be over before it started.

Mercedes in trouble being somewhere around 1.1 seconds off the pace.

Now reports emerging that the super fast ferrari is a tyre eater. The gap between it and RB on medium runs was 0.4

The gap just gets larger on the longer runs.

Its gong to be a RedBull procession again like last season...

https://www.planetf1.com/news/ferrari-mountain-to-climb-tyres-will-buxton/

So I guess same as the last year, with Merc being even worse than at start of last year. Ferrari's problem with tires are really weird.
 
The new season could be over before it started.

Mercedes in trouble being somewhere around 1.1 seconds off the pace.

Now reports emerging that the super fast ferrari is a tyre eater. The gap between it and RB on medium runs was 0.4

The gap just gets larger on the longer runs.

Its gong to be a RedBull procession again like last season...

https://www.planetf1.com/news/ferrari-mountain-to-climb-tyres-will-buxton/

Yeah Leclerc was not impressed with the long run performance on the last day of testing. Not seen the times but AM according to some were nearly as good as RB?! And they will be improving on their car a lot as the season goes on
 
The feck happened to Mercedes

They seem to be having a real struggle lately
 
Nice to see Gunther come across as the feckwit he is. Cannot fathom how he is still a team principal other than to lick Gene Haas’ arsehole.

Mick was gone after Monaco and the way he carried on was a joke for trying to develop a young driver.
 
Let’s change the rules to make things more competitive and all that’s happened is one of the two front runners has just swapped with the other and are even further ahead.
 
Let’s change the rules to make things more competitive and all that’s happened is one of the two front runners has just swapped with the other and are even further ahead.
Unfortunately this happens with every rule change. Takes them a while to catch up.

Let's not forget the last rule change Mercedes won 6 in a row.

It's kind of frustrating that the season before the rules changed, we probably had the best season in modern history for that reason.
 
Nice to see Gunther come across as the feckwit he is. Cannot fathom how he is still a team principal other than to lick Gene Haas’ arsehole.

Mick was gone after Monaco and the way he carried on was a joke for trying to develop a young driver.

The contrast between Steiner and Tost when it comes to dealing with their drivers is quite something. And you can see it filters down to the mechanics as well.

Didn’t realise Mick was such a wreck at Baku but it explains how he became such a driving zombie
 
Let’s change the rules to make things more competitive and all that’s happened is one of the two front runners has just swapped with the other and are even further ahead.

I would say the rules are quite decent in last two years, except the Red Bull costs thing last year.

It's not FIA's fault Mercedes (by the looks of it) managed to make even worse car than most average teams this year, and Ferrari still spend their tires more than any other car on the grid and they can't understand why.
 
Not buying this typical Merc doom and gloom. Wouldn’t surprise if they’re beating Ferrari in the races from the get go. Pick up where they left off.

Much better position compared to the shitbox they were driving in the first half a dozen races last season, where even reaching Q3 was an achievement.
 
#AMuS reports that apparently the ground clearance of the RB19 is at least 10 millimetres below everyone else [based on what Mercedes observed]. And despite that, still no bouncing issues.


Toto says their floor would break if they would do the same.

#AMuS Another car with similar characteristics as the RB19 is the AMR23. Mercedes engineers claim to have noticed that the AMR23 drives at a lower ride height too, and despite that, gets over the bumps well. It is also strong on corner exit.

#AMuS The comparison with Aston Martin is interesting for Mercedes because they supply Aston Martin with the engine, gearbox and rear suspension.

Aston Martin only makes the front axle, which could indicate that this is where both the secret of Red Bull and Aston Martin lie.

 
Really hope that the season won't be another RB procession, but it really isn't sounding positive. The sport really needs at least two teams capable of winning races. Would love to see Aston manage to jump the pack and challenge at the front for a change.
 
Not buying this typical Merc doom and gloom. Wouldn’t surprise if they’re beating Ferrari in the races from the get go. Pick up where they left off.

Much better position compared to the shitbox they were driving in the first half a dozen races last season, where even reaching Q3 was an achievement.
Yeah Mercedes were clearly sandbagging through testing, atleast wrt straightline speed. They may not be RedBull fast but will easily be up there with Ferrari
 
Don't believe that Mercedes were sand bagging personally.

Also not looking forward to a dominant season by red bull. Hate when any team dominates, with reliability being so good it's so much worse than it used to be when cars would blow up all the time.
 
This season will be a shit show RB will absolutely dominate from the go. How many races can Verstappen win?
 
I would say the rules are quite decent in last two years, except the Red Bull costs thing last year.

It's not FIA's fault Mercedes (by the looks of it) managed to make even worse car than most average teams this year, and Ferrari still spend their tires more than any other car on the grid and they can't understand why.

Dunno. The top 3 are still the top 3, just a different order.
 
Don't believe that Mercedes were sand bagging personally.

Also not looking forward to a dominant season by red bull. Hate when any team dominates, with reliability being so good it's so much worse than it used to be when cars would blow up all the time.

Agree with you on this.
I was really looking forward to this season with a number of teams challenging RB, although I didn't quite expect Aston Martin to be one of those yet.
RB were always going to be the team to beat because of their dominance last year. I did however expect Mercedes to be closer. But I am still confident that they will get there.
And I do agree with you about the engine reliability. It used to be great to see a car going flat out followed by a comprehensive engine failure.
 
Can't we wait a few races before we're crowning RB as champions? Or at least until 5min into Q3 on Sunday.. A week before is way too negative, even for the F1 thread on the caf.