It's very boring tbh. Sure Max is a good driver but the car is just so much better than the rest.
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I've said it many times recently. They are turning the sport into a farce. 1200 possible infractions and only something like 5 people penalised.
1200 infractions WTF
I presume for track limits, how we’re only 5 given penalties
I presume for track limits, how we’re only 5 given penalties
Sainz, Hamilton among drivers to drop down
So here is how those time penalties work out in the point scoring positions.
Carlos Sainz drops from P4 to P6, with Lando Norris and Fernando Alonso going up to fourth and fifth respectively.
Lewis Hamilton falls from P7 to P8 behind George Russell.
Pierre Gasly drops from P9 to P10 behind Lance Stroll
So here is how those time penalties work out in the point scoring positions.
Carlos Sainz drops from P4 to P6, with Lando Norris and Fernando Alonso going up to fourth and fifth respectively.
Lewis Hamilton falls from P7 to P8 behind George Russell.
Pierre Gasly drops from P9 to P10 behind Lance Stroll
They’ve confused me as to how Sainz and Hamilton get 10s penalties after serving 5s during the race.
So 4 infringements = 5s, then 1 more = 10s, then they reset the count after that. What?
Was ocon driving on the right track, 30 seconds of penalties
I agree, complete farce. They need an alternative method for track limits which penalises the driver temporarily, and you can be sure they won't do it again. If they can detect when they're off the track and DRS, then they can impose something on the vehicles that exceed track limits.
I can guarantee you won't see any real punishments on track limits for the rest of the season, which makes this look like even more of a farcical process.
I agree.
Its dull, but so was hamitons domination. Unfortuntely dont see anyone catching RB till the new rule changes in 2026.
I can't watch it anymore.
Max is borderline likeable but he's got no competition. Boring. It's meant to be racing.
Stay within track limits...
Some drivers managed it, which suggests its possible. Even the guy in first was able to follow the rules.
Like they said in commentary, for Wimbledon this year, should we let them hit outside the lines
Some drivers managed it, which suggests its possible. Even the guy in first was able to follow the rules.
Like they said in commentary, for Wimbledon this year, should we let them hit outside the lines
Funniest thing apart from Totto's "gerrunwithit" was the smooth intimidation of Seinz. Wonder if he still can't fall asleep out of fear?
Perez making a absolute meal of trying to pass sainz towards the end of the race shows why he'll never be a elite tier driver. Just not using any wit or racecraft going into T3. Just stay behind at activation line to get the DRS into T3.
Horner now getting max to push the RB line about the 2026 car. Drivers really should drive the cars and leave the politics to the team principals.
Rumour has it RB are struggling with their development of 2026 powertrain.
Cant see the rules being changed as the rules as they are is what attracted Honda, Audi and Ford.
https://the-race.com/formula-1/verstappen-launches-scathing-attack-on-f1s-2026-rules/
Rumour has it RB are struggling with their development of 2026 powertrain.
Cant see the rules being changed as the rules as they are is what attracted Honda, Audi and Ford.
https://the-race.com/formula-1/verstappen-launches-scathing-attack-on-f1s-2026-rules/
Need to bring sausage kerbs in for next year, total joke of a sport.
The fight for the WC is just as exciting as it's been pretty much every single season over the last 10-12 years bar a year or two, i.e not at all, so nothing's changed there.
The fight for place 2-20 both in qualifying and in races however is fantastic imo, even more so if Mclaren now can get in the mix with Perez, Ferrari, Aston and Merc as well. So if I take off my Ferrari hat I'm enjoying F1 more than I have in a long time, but I get if the casual viewers who might not care about who finishes where outside the top 3, or even outside top spot finds it more boring than ever seeing how far ahead Max is.
Just enforce it properly. These penalties are daft. The result had nothing to do with people cheating.
It boring Max winning every thing, but it was when Lewis was, it was when Seb and when Sch was, but that’s F1.
Would like 3 or 4 teams in the running, but that’s not going to happen.
Why has it taken Horner 11 months to pipe up about the 2026 rules? There's rumours that Honda are starting from scratch as all their key team who were working on the current RB engine have moved on to other projects within Honda.
Didn’t most of the key team members join RBR engine division
Urgh Stroll and Gasly being swapped has really fecked my prediction I had both in the right place til that
Re Max, it's the same as when Hamilton was dominant, but because he's a good driver you want to see him challenged - the first lap where he was racing Leclerc was fantastic, and when he caught them after his pit stop. Him just disappearing unchallenged feels hollow - same as when Lewis has had to come through the field you want to see him using his skill to overtake
The way some of them just got out Perez way because they knew his car was so much better than theirs just made a complete mockery of the sport - at least try. Sainz fought him and didn't let him just breeze past and was able to hold him up for a few laps.
Re Max, it's the same as when Hamilton was dominant, but because he's a good driver you want to see him challenged - the first lap where he was racing Leclerc was fantastic, and when he caught them after his pit stop. Him just disappearing unchallenged feels hollow - same as when Lewis has had to come through the field you want to see him using his skill to overtake
The way some of them just got out Perez way because they knew his car was so much better than theirs just made a complete mockery of the sport - at least try. Sainz fought him and didn't let him just breeze past and was able to hold him up for a few laps.
Maybe it's taken them 11 months to run the simulations? To be honest the new regs sound utter wank.
The new engine regs sound like shit and red bull won’t be the last to complain about them.
Similar eco garbage as removing tyre blankets
Similar eco garbage as removing tyre blankets
For me if there’s 1.2k infractions then the track has to change. Something should be done, perhaps to the curb or something, to make it less desirable to go out wide I.E you lose time.
On a side note if they update Superbru then I think my 19 points should change to 20 
If I'm reading what I picked up from RBs comments on 26 correctly it seems very generally focused on three things:
aero will mean a lot less and pure engine power will once again be dominating the sport (and we know how that went before), the cars getting even heavier -not lighter, and even more of the engine power - up to 50% being pure battery power meaning recharging will become even more of a thing that it already has in the hybrid era.
The fact Max is jumping on that train now must mean he s seen the simulations. Rather than Toto and Horner getting into some kind of pissing match again, I would love to hear more about the new regs and whether there is some legitimate concern now that teams seemingly are getting an idea of what that time is going to look like. Raising issues with future regs a few years out seems a lot more kosher to me than complaining about regs we re a few seasons into now.
aero will mean a lot less and pure engine power will once again be dominating the sport (and we know how that went before), the cars getting even heavier -not lighter, and even more of the engine power - up to 50% being pure battery power meaning recharging will become even more of a thing that it already has in the hybrid era.
The fact Max is jumping on that train now must mean he s seen the simulations. Rather than Toto and Horner getting into some kind of pissing match again, I would love to hear more about the new regs and whether there is some legitimate concern now that teams seemingly are getting an idea of what that time is going to look like. Raising issues with future regs a few years out seems a lot more kosher to me than complaining about regs we re a few seasons into now.
Problem for RB is that there was a 2026 car powertrain working group across all the manufacturers at which they were present.
They all agreed and signed up to the specifications required. To the point that Audi joined the sport and Honda re-joined. So i presume the manufacturers who make road cars think its achievable. RBPT have no road cars and are building their first PU, which must be daunting.
Give RBs current utter domination (perez imcompetence withstanding) of the sport, none of the other manufacturers are going to make concessions for them.
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Regarding the track limits I recall many times in the past where it was agreed certain corners were exempt and you could exceed the line as there was no real gain and the flow of the corner and car made it silly to enforce. Of course I'm not talking about cutting a chicane or taking a very wide angle.
You just widen the acceptance to not going beyond the red and white and making up your own circuit. Often riding too much curb will slow your car so cars aren't really trying to go very wide anyway. Seems we've got away from sense and become pedantic over the lines on every corner.
Fairly enjoyable race, was pleased Lando managed to hold the car position without any mishaps and keep the pace.
You just widen the acceptance to not going beyond the red and white and making up your own circuit. Often riding too much curb will slow your car so cars aren't really trying to go very wide anyway. Seems we've got away from sense and become pedantic over the lines on every corner.
Fairly enjoyable race, was pleased Lando managed to hold the car position without any mishaps and keep the pace.
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it’s ok. luckily horner and helmet are such nice guys that the rest of the paddock will bend over backwards to help them.
Remember when the grass was the limits of the track? Might as well watch sim racing at this point. I skipped the race yesterday, watched gt4 at spa and couple of hours of 24 h of spa on youtube on Saturday and it's really telling how worse drivers in worse cars can result in actual racing while F1 became what it did. (This isn't a knock on any F1 driver, it's the organization).
Heavy, non aero dependent cars neutralise both of RBs massive current competitive advantages (Newey and Max wanting an aggressive pointy front end).
Add their powertrain problems and they could be in quite a bit of trouble for 2026.
In fairness track limits has rarely been an issue anywhere other than Austria. Austrians in being knobheads shocker.
I see AM making new friends with this complain. Now all the teams will be waiting for AM to make a mistake.
Did Hamilton ever dominate like this? I always seem to remember he has at least his team mate as a rival, but usually always at least one other. Massa, Vettel, Rosberg etc have all ran him close or won titles. This Red Bull is so far ahead it's ridiculous.
Plus, the dominance is one thing, but I don't ever remember there being such a bad vibe around the pits. Red Bull the worst for the whining, despite the winning, and have been for many years. Made all the more bizarre when they have clearly benefited from some very favourable decisions recently, and then the whole budget thing, which was just a farce.
I know some people just like to race, but the smaller teams must be p!ssed off with what happens in the "top" teams. Or maybe they just ignore it since they aren't really challenging. If I ever do watch a race now it is only when one of the less fancied teams has done well in quali and looks like they have a chance to perform, when it is Red Bull or Mercedes dominance I just cannot bring myself to watch.
Plus, the dominance is one thing, but I don't ever remember there being such a bad vibe around the pits. Red Bull the worst for the whining, despite the winning, and have been for many years. Made all the more bizarre when they have clearly benefited from some very favourable decisions recently, and then the whole budget thing, which was just a farce.
I know some people just like to race, but the smaller teams must be p!ssed off with what happens in the "top" teams. Or maybe they just ignore it since they aren't really challenging. If I ever do watch a race now it is only when one of the less fancied teams has done well in quali and looks like they have a chance to perform, when it is Red Bull or Mercedes dominance I just cannot bring myself to watch.
Did you forget the 5 years where Hamilton had Bottas as teammate who is now getting crushed by Zhou? Main difference was that Bottas was good in Q, so he could start from the front and ease his way the podium. While Perez is worse in Q and therefore have it less easy in races. Mercedes had the most dominant car ever by far for 8 years. Red Bull in on year 1.5 now so we have to wait another 6.5 season of this before its equal to what Hamilton and Mercedes in terms of cruising at the top!
If Bottas were in Max seat with Perez as teammate we might have 4-5 different drivers duking it out for the title this season.
We are at year 1,5 of this now and people are going crazy. Imagine at year 4, holy smokes!
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Quite so.
And I am still surprised that the other teams have not yet understood how to make their cars close the massive gap to RB. because Max is obviously driving well within his and the car limits.
But the racing lower down the field is interesting.
I think they understand but can’t get there without a new chassis, which they can’t afford under the cost cap.
If I were Mercedes/ Ferrari, Id be tempted to overspend, take a wind tunnel penalty and get a seasons worth of data on a winning concept like RB did.