Fantasy Tournament: World Cup All-Time All-Stars

Pol 1. Maradona
Cal 1. Pele
Aldo 1. Garrincha
Theon 1. Beckenbauer
Rpitroda 1. Zidane
Paceme 1. Platini
Jayvin 1. Ronaldo
Desert 1.Moore
Annah 1. Didi 2. Iniesta
Crappy/Pippa 1. Fontaine 2. Krol
Fergus 1. Matthäus 2. Falcao
Balu/NM 1. Cruyff 2. Jairzinho
Anto 1. Puskas 2. Neeskens
Gio. 1. Eusebio 2. Figueroa
Cutch 1. Muller 2. Facchetti
TITO 1. Charlton 2. Baresi
 
antohan said:
Agreed, a lot of the top players are of course winners but others will pick them and the next port of call is usually a non-winner. Winning or not is a team thing after all, but there are loads of individual stars who were just unfortunate to play for tinpot countries.
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Or just missed out. There's that whole Holland 74 team as well as the Hungary 54. That's two teams from which many players won't look out of place.
 
AldoPaine18 said:
Or just missed out. There's that whole Holland 74 team as well as the Hungary 54. That's two teams from which many players won't look out of place.
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Brazil 82 as well. But really pretty much all runners-up who didn't go on to win it or hadn't won it recently.
 
Pol 1. Maradona
Cal 1. Pele
Aldo 1. Garrincha
Theon 1. Beckenbauer
Rpitroda 1. Zidane
Paceme 1. Platini
Jayvin 1. Ronaldo
Desert 1.Moore 2. Meazza
Annah 1. Didi 2. Iniesta
Crappy/Pippa 1. Fontaine 2. Krol
Fergus 1. Matthäus 2. Falcao
Balu/NM 1. Cruyff 2. Jairzinho
Anto 1. Puskas 2. Neeskens
Gio. 1. Eusebio 2. Figueroa
Cutch 1. Muller 2. Facchetti
TITO 1. Charlton 2. Baresi​
 
Yeah was between him and another defender. So much quality in this draft pool. Can't wait to see how awesome the finished teams look.
 
Thisistheone said:
Pol said a players first appearance. Baresi first appeared in Italia 90.
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antohan said:
That was not related to being a winner but pre-post 1970. I even asked him about players whose first appearance was for one country (defines continent) but won it with another. He never answered but I think it's pretty obvious the rule applies to continent there, not having won it.

It's no biggie though, he is right up there with the very best anyway but I thought it was worth pointing out before it could get you tied up in knots at the end of the draft.
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Sorry Anto, missed your earlier post
Sorry TITO, Baresi is indeed a WC winner
You are either a WC winner or you are not. No ambiguity about it unlike players who played for nations in different continents which requires the first appearance rule. It would be strange to say you are not a WC winner unless you win it in your first appearance.
 
Sorry for the delay lads, lucky I checked this morning as I'm heading out today!

I pick Fabio Cannavaro
 
Pol 1. Maradona
Cal 1. Pele
Aldo 1. Garrincha
Theon 1. Beckenbauer
Rpitroda 1. Zidane
Paceme 1. Platini
Jayvin 1. Ronaldo 2. Cannavaro
Desert 1.Moore 2. Meazza
Annah 1. Didi 2. Iniesta
Crappy/Pippa 1. Fontaine 2. Krol
Fergus 1. Matthäus 2. Falcao
Balu/NM 1. Cruyff 2. Jairzinho
Anto 1. Puskas 2. Neeskens
Gio. 1. Eusebio 2. Figueroa
Cutch 1. Muller 2. Facchetti
TITO 1. Charlton 2. Baresi
 
If I am below you you can PM your picks to me I will be up for quite a while.

Make sure to do a list as if your first gets picked we'd end up waiting anyhow.
 
Pol 1. Maradona
Cal 1. Pele
Aldo 1. Garrincha
Theon 1. Beckenbauer
Rpitroda 1. Zidane
Paceme 1. Platini 2. Rijkaard
Jayvin 1. Ronaldo 2. Cannavaro
Desert 1.Moore 2. Meazza
Annah 1. Didi 2. Iniesta
Crappy/Pippa 1. Fontaine 2. Krol
Fergus 1. Matthäus 2. Falcao
Balu/NM 1. Cruyff 2. Jairzinho
Anto 1. Puskas 2. Neeskens
Gio. 1. Eusebio 2. Figueroa
Cutch 1. Muller 2. Facchetti
TITO 1. Charlton 2. Baresi
 
AldoPaine18 said:
Is Cannavaro ranked higher than Baresi in the context of this draft?
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That's the problem. For me he isn't at all and that's the way I would probably vote, because its all that makes sense.

But Cannavaro in 2006 was the pinnacle of defending in a world cup. Outstanding, a one man wall at times.
 
Cal? said:
I would think so, but each to their own.
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I would think so as well. Baresi was great in 90, and brilliant in the 94 final but Cannavaro gave one of the all time greatest defensive performances in a tournament. So IMO he should be rated ahead of Baresi.
 
Pol 1. Maradona
Cal 1. Pele
Aldo 1. Garrincha
Theon 1. Beckenbauer
Rpitroda 1. Zidane 2. Masopust
Paceme 1. Platini 2. Rijkaard
Jayvin 1. Ronaldo 2. Cannavaro
Desert 1.Moore 2. Meazza
Annah 1. Didi 2. Iniesta
Crappy/Pippa 1. Fontaine 2. Krol
Fergus 1. Matthäus 2. Falcao
Balu/NM 1. Cruyff 2. Jairzinho
Anto 1. Puskas 2. Neeskens
Gio. 1. Eusebio 2. Figueroa
Cutch 1. Muller 2. Facchetti
TITO 1. Charlton 2. Baresi
 
Theon said:
That's the problem. For me he isn't at all and that's the way I would probably vote, because its all that makes sense.

But Cannavaro in 2006 was the pinnacle of defending in a world cup. Outstanding, a one man wall at times.
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Read your own words again, completely contradictory.

That said, I would argue Baresi in the 94 WC final was the performance of his life (bar the missed peno). Unlucky, that's all.

I was hoping this sort of logic would see him last :(
 
Has Rijkaard really played a great worldcup tournament?
 
Rijkaard is a crowd-pleasing choice in this regard. The people who will put effort into voting will see Masopust as the stronger performer though.
 
feck it, this is going to be a nonsense come the matches. I have a really viable team in mind that will get zero votes but would be really interesting if I pull it off, going there if you knobs will let me :smirk:
 
antohan said:
Read your own words again, completely contradictory.

That said, I would argue Baresi in the 94 WC final was the performance of his life (bar the missed peno). Unlucky, that's all.

I was hoping this sort of logic would see him last :(
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It's not contradictory, re-read it.

Baresi is the far better defender, but Cannavaro played better in those few World Cup games. It doesn't change Baresi being better than him.
 
Theon said:
It's not contradictory, re-read it.

Baresi is the far better defender, but Cannavaro played better in those few World Cup games. It doesn't change Baresi being better than him.
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But the entire point is that this is about WC performances thicko! :lol:
 
Theon said:
It's not contradictory, re-read it.

Baresi is the far better defender, but Cannavaro played better in those few World Cup games. It doesn't change Baresi being better than him.
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This makes zero sense. What's the point of this being a WC draft then? You should also be picking Messi now if you think this is the case
 
It's hopeless, not even the managers get it. Screw it, I'm going kamikaze!!!!! I just won't have all those plodders who made the best of their shot at a World Cup being overlooked yet again. It's just not right.
 
antohan said:
But the entire point is that this is about WC performances thicko! :lol:
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Don't be a little prick antohan

AldoPaine18 said:
For his career outside the WC which is irrelevant here.
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I don't see how it is though because Baresi was still the better player when he was at that world cup, Cannavaro just happened to have the games of his life. He played better in those few games, but wasn't the better player.

I'm not trying to take the piss here, just get my head around what I should be picking on. I've PMed Snow the two possible picks and waiting for him to confirm which one he thinks.

From what I'm gathering from what you've said this isn't like a normal draft where the two teams in the matches go up against each other in a hypothetical game. It's more a case of just listing the players and their respective World Cup records and voting off that instead of their ability.. Is that right?
 
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