Fellaini back injury

I have no problem with him as long as he keeps his elbows in check. He adds needed size in the box and is good with his head on set pieces both ways. He was actually performing better past 3 games than I can remember seeing him for us.
 
We need to go 4-3-3 and have Schneiderlin and Herrera paired with Pogba. Fellaini can replace one of the other two if he comes back in the same form he's started this season in.

We're too open in midfield, Southampton cut us apart at will and against a good side we'll concede (or at the very least DDG will be winning the POTY again).
 
How long do back injuries usually take to recover from?
 
caisenma said:
i'd be delighted to see that too, but when i see that fellaini completed more passes than any other player last weekend i don't know what to think
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Well as I said, if he recovers well he can go into the team instead of one of the others but 4-3-3 is the way to go regardless.

The only reason we're not playing it is because of Rooney.
 
matherto said:
We need to go 4-3-3 and have Schneiderlin and Herrera paired with Pogba. Fellaini can replace one of the other two if he comes back in the same form he's started this season in.

We're too open in midfield, Southampton cut us apart at will and against a good side we'll concede (or at the very least DDG will be winning the POTY again).
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How long is he out for?

Shame as the last few games have probably been his best at United.
 
Playing Carrick in a two man midfield with Pogba, against City who flood the area could be suicidal imo. In fact, I don't see how we can play a 4231. Except, Mourinho want to abandon territory totally and defend his box.
 
If we manage to get hammered, I think people will finally see how important Marouane is to the team.
 
matherto said:
We need to go 4-3-3 and have Schneiderlin and Herrera paired with Pogba. Fellaini can replace one of the other two if he comes back in the same form he's started this season in.

We're too open in midfield, Southampton cut us apart at will and against a good side we'll concede (or at the very least DDG will be winning the POTY again).
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We really need to see the 433. Our CMs seem best suited to it in theory.
 
Such a shame as he has been very important for is recently. Like lost people I think we need to go 4-3-3 with Schneiderlin, Herrera and Pogba.

City will flood the midfield so we need to make sure we have enough bodies there to!
 
matherto said:
We need to go 4-3-3 and have Schneiderlin and Herrera paired with Pogba. Fellaini can replace one of the other two if he comes back in the same form he's started this season in.

We're too open in midfield, Southampton cut us apart at will and against a good side we'll concede (or at the very least DDG will be winning the POTY again).
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Southampton cut us apart at will?

Anyways he found a really good form, we'll see if we can replace him and with whom. Maybe Morgan?
 
Jaybomb said:
If we manage to get hammered, I think people will finally see how important Marouane is to the team.
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Or we'll see that City are a better team than the ones we've played so far. He's done well, but comparisons across individual games don't mean much.

I think we'll need to reinforce the midfield against City, and would have done even if Fellaini was available. That said, it's always better when the manager can choose the team rather than an injury choosing it for him.

Anybody seen anything suggesting how long he's actually likely to be out for?
 
Ban said:
Southampton cut us apart at will?

Anyways he found a really good form, we'll see if we can replace him and with whom. Maybe Morgan?
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LOl as usual people talking bs coz they want to see some players and system on the pitch.
 
The United said:
LOl as usual people talking bs coz they want to see some players and system on the pitch.

We are not playing 4 3 3 atm. I don't know if it is because of Rooney. But, how on earth playing 4 3 3 would where the middle of 3 would have to have a very good passing range like Carrick who we should not rely on too much anymore help us defend or attack better?
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I wrote in a matchday thread, maybe a midfield of Morgan, Herrera and Pogba?
Although I doubt very much Jose will change a formation. He will change something for City game, that's for sure, the main battle will be fought in the middle and Fellaini is a big loss I think.
 
jojojo said:
Or we'll see that City are a better team than the ones we've played so far. He's done well, but comparisons across individual games don't mean much.

I think we'll need to reinforce the midfield against City, and would have done even if Fellaini was available. That said, it's always better when the manager can choose the team rather than an injury choosing it for him.

Anybody seen anything suggesting how long he's actually likely to be out for?
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We would have struggled under Van Gaal in those games. Thankfully this season, we've got Ibra. He's the difference maker.
 
When did he get his 'injury' - we sure it's not Jose mind-games?
 
Ban said:
I wrote in a matchday thread, maybe a midfield of Morgan, Herrera and Pogba?
Although I doubt very much Jose will change a formation. He will change something for City game, that's for sure, the main battle will be fought in the middle and Fellaini is a big loss I think.
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IMO if we want him to play or think he can play in the middle of 3, there is not much different with playing him in the current Fellaini's role as morgan seemed to be pretty limited with his passing last season for us. But for harassing, pressing, chasing around with good stamina, he has all the tools to play in that role.

For 4 3 3, he does not have a good passing range or accuracy for that, at least not for us so far.
 
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jojojo said:
Or we'll see that City are a better team than the ones we've played so far. He's done well, but comparisons across individual games don't mean much.

I think we'll need to reinforce the midfield against City, and would have done even if Fellaini was available. That said, it's always better when the manager can choose the team rather than an injury choosing it for him.

Anybody seen anything suggesting how long he's actually likely to be out for?
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No, thats the strange part, lots of reports since the end of the Hull game but no timetable,
Going from that article, if Belgium are still waiting to confirm if he'll be out for their 2nd match, it can't be too bad?
 
The United said:
IMO if we want or think morgan play in the middle of 3, there is not much different with playing him in the current Fellaini's role as morgan seemed to be pretty limited with his passings last season for us. But for harassing, pressing, chasing around with good stamina, he has all the tools to play in that role.

For 4 3 3, he does not have a good passing range or accuracy for that, at least not for us so far.
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In 4-3-3 not all three midfield players have to have a good passing range. You have one who is a DM and is responsible for the things you wrote, harrasing, pressing, defensive work, 2 other midfielders are responsible for the passing part. Of course it helps if the DM is good in passing but it's enough if he's decent in the sense of passing it to the nearest player. Of course you can have 3 CMs, equally good in passing but Fellaini would be good in 4-3-3.
 
don't sign old players said:
Fellaini is a huge loss. If Lingard is still missing that's two of our best fighters down. The game will be tough to win.
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I dont think Lingard missing is a problem at all. We have enough cover there. Even Fellaini Im not too fussed we will spring a surprise in midfield for the derby.
 
Ban said:
In 4-3-3 not all three midfield players have to have a good passing range. You have one who is a DM and is responsible for the things you wrote, harrasing, pressing, defensive work, 2 other midfielders are responsible for the passing part. Of course it helps if the DM is good in passing but it's enough if he's decent in the sense of passing it to the nearest player. Of course you can have 3 CMs, equally good in passing but Fellaini would be good in 4-3-3.
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It can work as LVG showed it before but we had carrick sitting at the base before.

I think Jose would most likely put someone else in that DM role than going for 4 3 3 as he seems to like rooney playing somewhere.
 
The United said:
It can work as LVG showed it before but we had carrick sitting at the base before.

I think Jose would most likely put someone else in that DM role than going for 4 3 3 as he seems to like rooney playing somewhere.
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I think that too. I hope Mickhi will start at least if indeed Rooney will also start.
Would be a nice surprise to see Mickhi instead of Rooney and lets say Rashford on the right although I can see Jose saving Rashford for a super sub role.
 
Ban said:
Southampton cut us apart at will?
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Yeah, they did. If they were actually half decent up front we would've drawn the game or worse. Pogba and Fellaini as a two isn't solid enough protection for our back four.

The United said:
LOl as usual people talking bs coz they want to see some players and system on the pitch.
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4-3-3 with the squad we have is the way forward. If you can't see that then you're talking BS.

Pogba should have an energetic player next to him (Vidal/Herrera) and a sitter (Pirlo/Carrick or Schneiderlin) and we could have Martial and Mkhitaryan providing pace from the wings cutting inside when Zlatan comes deep or holds the ball up.

The only thing stopping this from happening is the scouse elephant in the room.
 
matherto said:
Yeah, they did. If they were actually half decent up front we would've drawn the game or worse. Pogba and Fellaini as a two isn't solid enough protection for our back four.



4-3-3 with the squad we have is the way forward. If you can't see that then you're talking BS.

Pogba should have an energetic player next to him (Vidal/Herrera) and a sitter (Pirlo/Carrick or Schneiderlin) and we could have Martial and Mkhitaryan providing pace from the wings cutting inside when Zlatan comes deep or holds the ball up.

The only thing stopping this from happening is the scouse elephant in the room.
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Yeah alrite, Jose is bsing around too I guess.
 
Wouldn't say we have 'excellent' cover at all. We've got options, but neither are like Fellaini. Even if we change system, we'd still need a holding midfielder.

Carrick - Great on the ball. Will give us more creativity, but he lacks the grit and aerial presence Fellaini gives us.

Herrera - Not a holding midfielder for me.

Schneiderlin - Probably the closest to Fellaini, in terms of aggression and strength, but again, to me, he's not really a holding midfielder.
 
matherto said:
Well as I said, if he recovers well he can go into the team instead of one of the others but 4-3-3 is the way to go regardless.

The only reason we're not playing it is because of Rooney.
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Not sure we've played 433 under jose. The 433 talk needs to stop really as a likely scenario.

Gutted for fellaini, and us. I think hes been great so far.
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
Wouldn't say we have 'excellent' cover at all. We've got options, but neither are like Fellaini. Even if we change system, we'd still need a holding midfielder.

Carrick - Great on the ball. Will give us more creativity, but he lacks the grit and aerial presence Fellaini gives us.

Herrera - Not a holding midfielder for me.

Schneiderlin - Probably the closest to Fellaini, in terms of aggression and strength, but again, to me, he's not really a holding midfielder.
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Excellent compared with what we use to have is what I meant by that. A change of formation to accommodate our options wouldn't make us any worse I reckon. What do you see Schneiderlin as?
 
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