I didn't say they were, but I would at least expect him to given a fair crack of the whip. If he proves himself then excellent.
From the Times: United expected to extend Shaw's contract & unlikely to sign Danny Rose
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He deserves this season but to give him a new contract is madness.
It's called showing faith, and United obviously have good reason to show faith. Good decision for player and club at this stage in his career.
Have pity on me, I'm just being reasonable.
Have pity on me, I'm just being reasonable.
The guy did say at 18 years of age, and at that point he was. He made the team of the season.
Yes he's had injury and other issues over the last few years, but that doesn't mean the potential isn't there. Even last season he had flashes. Its just about, first staying fit, and then putting it together consistently now.
Hopefully in 12 months time we're talking about potential becoming a serious player.
I really like him and hope this season is the opposite of the last three for him. Fingers crossed.
This is what he can do. Compare this to Darmian or Blind
I really like Shaw, but that might be the most underwhelming highlight reel I've ever seen.
Does it at any point mention he's being offered a new contract?
He's into the group of players who are lucky to still be at the club at this point (and it's an increasingly small group), so he really needs to come back from injury with his head 100% in the right place. If he does that there's still a big opportunity to turn things around.
It does make more sense giving him the chance to do that than signing Rose would. We don't need to buy an overpriced, injured left back with an attitude problem, to replace an overpriced, injured left back with an attitude problem. Shaw is younger and probably more talented if he gets his act together and stays fit.
He's into the group of players who are lucky to still be at the club at this point (and it's an increasingly small group), so he really needs to come back from injury with his head 100% in the right place. If he does that there's still a big opportunity to turn things around.
It does make more sense giving him the chance to do that than signing Rose would. We don't need to buy an overpriced, injured left back with an attitude problem, to replace an overpriced, injured left back with an attitude problem. Shaw is younger and probably more talented if he gets his act together and stays fit.
Dont turn into goldfishes in 3 years time. You want him gone,thats fine and he might be sold or leave on free, in 3 years time he could be sold to bigger team, dont make threads then calling JM names for letting him go. Just like in case of Evans, no one said anything positive about him till City didnt bid for him, suddenly he is world class defender and LvG is a cnut, God knows how you would react if similar thing happens with Shaw.
This - He is a great natural defender and was definitely also improving the attacking side of his game before that shocking injury.
You're right - you can't underestimate how long it can take to recover to previous levels (both physical and psychological) after such a serious injury. He only just turned 22 - We have to give him a proper chance - if he fulfils his potential he could be our starting LB for the next decade!
Luke Shaw doesn't necessarily come across as the money-grabbing type, but if we are going to offer him a new contract, a pay increase should not be offered. He is already earning a very healthy salary, which would have been agreed on the back of his impressive days at Southampton.
Unfortunately the broken leg was out of his control, but he has done virtually nothing to convince us that he is worth a contract extension, never mind a pay-rise. He is still young, English and has potential, so it would make sense to at least exercise the option to extend the deal for an additional year.
Hopefully it will be a breakthrough year for Luke, but I think it is more likely to confirm my fears - Luke Shaw just isn't the 'footballer' we hoped for.
Unfortunately the broken leg was out of his control, but he has done virtually nothing to convince us that he is worth a contract extension, never mind a pay-rise. He is still young, English and has potential, so it would make sense to at least exercise the option to extend the deal for an additional year.
Hopefully it will be a breakthrough year for Luke, but I think it is more likely to confirm my fears - Luke Shaw just isn't the 'footballer' we hoped for.
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Shaw barely plays any football and when he actually does he's meah. He's like the English version of Fabio Da Silva. He keeps getting better while he sits on the treatment room but we never see anything on the pitch.
Agree with this. Standards have dropped both in the first team and on here. Would take Blind over him any day of the week
With Shaw injured and Rose injured, what is this "buy one (injured left back) get one free"?
I can't really see the point of this story, except for journalist Paul Hirst to fill his mandatory two columns for the Times.... nice work if you can get it Paul!
I can't really see the point of this story, except for journalist Paul Hirst to fill his mandatory two columns for the Times.... nice work if you can get it Paul!
Comprehension isn't the Caf's strongest suit, clearly...
Anyway, exercising the extension is the right thing to do. As is backing Shaw. He's got it all there, it's just a case of keeping him fit, which I'm happy to allow another season to happen.
It's funny in that Rose at 23 would have been widely derided had he been linked with a United move. He then, finally, gets it together at Spurs, and is suddenly the answer to our apparent problems. Why not behave a little bit more like Spurs and turn Shaw into Rose, through game time, confidence and faith? It's a lot more rewarding, as well as economically viable.
Shaw will surprise a lot of people this season.
Anyway, exercising the extension is the right thing to do. As is backing Shaw. He's got it all there, it's just a case of keeping him fit, which I'm happy to allow another season to happen.
It's funny in that Rose at 23 would have been widely derided had he been linked with a United move. He then, finally, gets it together at Spurs, and is suddenly the answer to our apparent problems. Why not behave a little bit more like Spurs and turn Shaw into Rose, through game time, confidence and faith? It's a lot more rewarding, as well as economically viable.
Shaw will surprise a lot of people this season.
Don't forget Ashley Young!
I can't see any issue with this at all.
Surely giving him another year to prove or disprove he is worth keeping can't do any harm?
Even if Jose brings in another left back Shaw is in no position to throw a hissy fit and demand starts is he?
Surely giving him another year to prove or disprove he is worth keeping can't do any harm?
Even if Jose brings in another left back Shaw is in no position to throw a hissy fit and demand starts is he?
Would love him to rediscover his confidence, because he's got the raw potential to be a proper leftback for the next decade. The form he showed before the injury was indicative of greatness.
I wouldn't be against extending him then loaning him out to Jose's pal Pulis at West Brom for a season, and let him find himself in a less intense environment.
Rojo was disgraceful as a leftback previously, but he could bolster the options there in the new year if Darmian and Blind shared duties until then.
I wouldn't be against extending him then loaning him out to Jose's pal Pulis at West Brom for a season, and let him find himself in a less intense environment.
Rojo was disgraceful as a leftback previously, but he could bolster the options there in the new year if Darmian and Blind shared duties until then.
You have higher standards than the rest of the forum? This was also said during SAF's reign. Keeping players like Ando and buying the likes of Valencia and Young. Extending Shaw's contract sensible as the current expires in about 10 months.
Luke Shaw is a pussy. He's never had the mentality of a United player. What a massive failure he's been.
How motherly of you.
To keep the price up?
It makes perfect sense to extend his contract by a year. It would be absolute nonsense to let a £30m player leave on a free next summer, right after he has (hopefully) started proving himself again.
Id imagine its probably trigger the 1 year extension clause we seem so found of in recent years. Lets Shaw know he is valued enough to get a chance and also protects the club in case he does end up leaving.
And were we ever likely to sign Danny Rose anyway?
And were we ever likely to sign Danny Rose anyway?
Extending by a year makes sense but a whole new contract would possibly be the most undeserved thing we've witnessed in recent memory. He's done absolutely nothing to warrant a new contract and this season is make or break for him. I personally don't think he has what it takes and we should have signed a new LB this summer.
The contract extension, to my mind at least, is probably so that we can get a fee for him rather than letting him leave on a free. That's about as pessimistic as it gets but I've yet to see any evidence that Jose rates/trusts him.
Great news. The club has put its faith in Luke Shaw. That should give him a big boost, but now is the time to step up and deliver. Ease him in following his return and let's hope he puts a consistent run together of solid performances.
I wasnt talking about my standards. I was talking about people on here saying that Shaw is potentially the best LB in Europe and a talent of a generation. What a crock of s8it
This season was always going to be make or break, seeing as he was never going to magically start living up to expectations straight after his recovery, from what was a horrific injury.
I'll start judging him from now.
It was a horrific injury but other players have come back and coped much better than he did, look at Valencia.
He'll come good if he can sort out his injuries.
Just because one player comes back and coped better, doesn't mean another player will cope the same. Plus, Valencia was already adjusted to things at United. Shaw has never really been part of our starting 11 for any amount of extended time.
This has to be a make or break season for Shaw. I still think all the tools are there, but he'll have to prove he can stay healthy and execute Mourinhos instructions. If he can't do that this season, I think they'll have to move on. LB is an obvious area to strengthen already ... the depth is there, but neither Blind nor Darmian should be starters at an elite team (which, at the end of the day, is what United strives to be) and Shaw will have a mountain to climb if he wants to be that player. If he can return to be the player he was at the start of the 15/16 season, then awesome. If he can't, then they'll have to invest quite a bit of money for a new LB next summer.
I think we hang on to players too long in the hope they turn good. Of course it can happen, but if it comes at the expense of 3 or 4 or 5 poor seasons I'm unsure if it's worth it in most cases.
That said, this doesn't bother me at all. I was always a Shaw fan until last season where I'm leaning towards him as one that won't be good enough. Pretty happy for him to have one last chance though.
Also forget how young he is, but it's not an excuse for lack of application.
That said, this doesn't bother me at all. I was always a Shaw fan until last season where I'm leaning towards him as one that won't be good enough. Pretty happy for him to have one last chance though.
Also forget how young he is, but it's not an excuse for lack of application.
I really hope he comes good, my recollection of him before the injury was a player with massive potential.
I seem to remember reading somewhere that he's got an issue with motivation, can't be arsed and that. Anyone know if there's any truth to that?
I seem to remember reading somewhere that he's got an issue with motivation, can't be arsed and that. Anyone know if there's any truth to that?
We're not going to get that much for him unless of course he actually starts playing regularly.
He's English so this was always going to happen, which will leave our LB side underwhelming for the season and make the jobs of Martial and Rashford harder, I'd love Shaw to turn things around but this feels like Hargreaves all over again, mental rather than physical.
I think he already turned the corner in terms of mentality at the end of last year when he told Mourinho to save his final substitution against Anderlecht and that he could play through cramp into extra time. This ultimately was a massive boost in the match as Zlatan got injured in extra time.
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ttitude-and-marcus-rashford-after-man-utd-win
This was a match in which Shaw's attacking threat was a constant as he got forward on the overlap and even into the box on a few occasions to create chances. Not the highest calibre of opposition, but it was a big step for him after his major injury the prior season. Obviously injury again cut his season short just when he had regained the manager's faith, but I think he's likely to be over the mental issues which plagued him in his recovery.
Obviously I could be very wrong, but it's prudent for the club to keep some faith here rather than just throwing money at the problem. Shaw on form has already proven to be capable of consistent top level performances as he proved when making the PFA team of the year at Southampton. He's shown glimpses of that level here at United, but never consistently due to a myriad of reasons. I trust in Jose to bring that out of him as long as he can avoid picking up any serious or niggling injuries.
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ttitude-and-marcus-rashford-after-man-utd-win
This was a match in which Shaw's attacking threat was a constant as he got forward on the overlap and even into the box on a few occasions to create chances. Not the highest calibre of opposition, but it was a big step for him after his major injury the prior season. Obviously injury again cut his season short just when he had regained the manager's faith, but I think he's likely to be over the mental issues which plagued him in his recovery.
Obviously I could be very wrong, but it's prudent for the club to keep some faith here rather than just throwing money at the problem. Shaw on form has already proven to be capable of consistent top level performances as he proved when making the PFA team of the year at Southampton. He's shown glimpses of that level here at United, but never consistently due to a myriad of reasons. I trust in Jose to bring that out of him as long as he can avoid picking up any serious or niggling injuries.