Gareth Bale is...The most expensive player ever?!
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Fantastic going forwards but they leak goals with Bale there.
Imagine Bale and Glen Johnson both playing at full back. That team would ship 3 goals a game.
If Cole's the best left back in the world he's 'special'.
Vidic and Rio are both 'special' if they are the best defenders in the world.
VDS has been a 'special' keeper these last 3 seasons. Keepers that weren't 'special' cost us big time in the CL for a few seasons and have lost Arsenal consistently.
If you're one of the best at what you do you're special.
Different rules for players in different positions doesn't make any sense unless the player is one that sits infront of the back four and defends (mainly because I dislike those kind of players).
Not it doesn't. Everyone including yourself knows Harry prefers 4-4-2 above all else. Minus Bale he would be still playing that formation against all opposition. Because he would be able to accomodate Modric or RVDV on the left of his favured 4 man midifeld structure.
The real truth is you get to play it often now because you have Bale yet can't bench one of Modric & RVDV.
You have already confessed you hardly ever played 4-5-1 till this season. You are contradicting yourself.
I've done no such thing. He would be the one partnered with RVDV alot if he was fit.
I doubt it. RVDV and Modric are unlikely to be benched or paired together in a 2 man midfield. Redknapp isnt that tactically naive.
Lennon isn't undroppable.
United should sign him; he will be pricey but his value is only going to up. I like the idea of him on set pieces for United
I like the idea of anyone who can take a set piece at United at the moment.
Well neither RVD nor Modric can play his role.
You do realise this argument's going nowhere? It's basically went 'this is what a special player is', 'no, this is what a special player is'. It's pointless.
I think special means something more than being one of the best at what you do, it's doing that with a bit of magic, something that makes you stand back and think wow. In the end it's a bit pointless to talk about who's a special player, so I'll apologise if so, but I feel there's a marked difference from the defending you see from Nesta and the defending you see from Vidic. Or the attacking you see from Bale and Giggs. There's an element of class, grace and effortlessness that makes their quality seem that bit more...special. It's something that would fit in anywhere, that would make the difference at every level.
I see that in Rooney. Not all the time, but it's there. Bale's not got that and it's why I don't think he'll ever be at the same level as Rooney in terms of valuations or how highly he's rated.
It's all a bit irrelevant, but then I think that's because it's been taken a bit too literally.
Not sure what you're laughing at. Harry Redknapp seems to agree with me, plus he's definitely had his best games from left back. It's not hard to believe is it?
They've never leaked goals because of Bale being there, for a start, Spurs play very openly anyway, but if Bale doesn't play there then Assou-Ekotto does who isn't any better. One of redcafe's favourite fallacies is to proclaim all attacking full backs as atrocious defensively just because they're not a converted centre back.
Actually agree with that, it seems most posters here give attacking full backs a disproportionally unfair rap for their defending.
It's actually the other way around - most posters are far too easily seduced by full backs who play like useless wingers (or quite good wingers in Bale's case).
I'm not a massive fan of Bale at LB and the fact that they have Ekoto mean they can utilise Bale's attacking capabilities.
I think he would be a terrific signing but be real if he says no and Harry says no it's time to move on. I have been alerted to a fella named Balázs Dzsudzsák who is supposedly a good young left sided player and from what I've seen he is worth a look.
I think he would be a terrific signing but be real if he says no and Harry says no it's time to move on. I have been alerted to a fella named Balázs Dzsudzsák who is supposedly a good young left sided player and from what I've seen he is worth a look.
I could see Bale ultimately wanting to come to United though after the season if we are interested
I dunno he says he feels indebted to Harry we would have to do very well or Spurs feck up majorly to turn his head.
Should have just signed him in 07!
Should have just signed him in 07!
He would be a perfect buy for United in my opinion. Signing him is a different story but I think he'd be ideal.
Didn't he reject a switch before from Southampton? Reasons? Maybe he thought he wasn't ready yet, but, looking at his development - especially in the last 12 months -, a move in the summer could be on.
I thought Spurs just beat us to the punch
its a crying shame seeing as spurs only got him for 5 million
really good left sided players are few and far between
we will buy ashley young in the summer on the cheap (his contract situation was the same as rooneys)
really good left sided players are few and far between
we will buy ashley young in the summer on the cheap (his contract situation was the same as rooneys)
Thing is it wasn't 5 million. That was the initial fee but there were substantial add ons taking the fee to reportedly 10 or 12 million. However due to Southampton's financial difficulties they then made a deal with Tottenham whereby these fees were paid early, probably to the sum of about 8 million.
They have. At OT against us for starters, so United fans have a decent knowledge of this actually. He really isn't very good defensively. I'm sure he could improve but he's so productive going forwards it seems like a massive waste. His fantastic form last season started when Modric was injured and he came in at LW. His form earnt him a couple starts at LB when Modric returned, but he wasn't great there, and returned to LW with Modric replacing Palacios in the centre.
7 or 8 months ago everyone would have rated Young better than Bale. Bale is fantastic atm but he needs to prove he can keep that up. He deserves the praise for his current form but that's what it is, form. Young has had great spells of form too in the past. Bale is flavour of the month at the moment.
Is he number 3 or 4?
You're talking about one game, he hasn't ever consistently been a weak link in their defence. His form also didn't coincide with being moved to left wing, he was fantastic at LB for a couple of months before he started playing further forward more regularly.
Yes though, he really has. His positioning is really poor, his decision making is poor. When Assou-Ekotto is getting picked ahead of you then it says it all. He's had some good moments/games at LB, but only in an attacking sense.
Kept very quiet on Saturday I thought.
Was very quiet against Everton as well.
he looks like a monkey
Against Everton, Phil Neville owned him. On Saturday, Rafael owned him. He seemed a bit overawed this Saturday.
No surprise. He evolved
Its about cutting off the supply to good wider players and v Everton and Utd that's what's happened.
He's got to make things happen in that respect
Maybe come a little deeper to make himself available, change wings, make the defenders think a bit more, pull them out of position.
But he's young and you only learn to do that from games like these
He's got to make things happen in that respect
Maybe come a little deeper to make himself available, change wings, make the defenders think a bit more, pull them out of position.
But he's young and you only learn to do that from games like these
Have your say, pal, if it makes you happy. Does not matter who owned him. HE WAS OWNED.
Does he remind of Planet of the Apes?
Because you doubled up on him.
If Spurs were more than about pretty triangles they would have made you pay elsewhere.
But they blew it.
We play according to the opposition. Our tactics are not the same for every game. We knew if Bale, Modric and VDV were neutralized, Spurs would be toothless. And our CBs would handle the rest.
Yeah like most teams make United pay at Old Trafford, Sam. Fact is, Spurs played well but were simply up against a better side.
Are you serious? Did you even watch the game? .
Rafael got the better of Bale in a one on one repeatedly. Fletcher barely even got involved.
Guardian chalkboard has Rafael down as winning 7 tackles* all down our right flank, inside our half. Fletcher won one tackle in that area in the whole 90 minutes.
*Equal highest amount of tackles won by any player on the pitch and almost twice as many as every other United player.
Pogue, dont we all know Sammy G? Let him say what he wants. Bitter.
Definitely beaten by a better side. That says more about Spurs though, Northstand. In my view anyway.