Gareth Bale is...The most expensive player ever?!

newtonheathdave said:
on watching Bale run past players as if they were not even there
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You can tell you are a City fan. A few glimpses of something good, ie Bale's displays against Inter, and you want to open up Mansour's chequebook, declare him the best winger in the world, and get a replica shirt with his name on the back of it.

Forget about what Bale does week in week out in the PL.
 
cina said:
This whole post is absolute madness of the highest degree, my god. You're just constantly changing the layout of your arguments and what you say in order to try accommodate your debate. The bolded parts are fecking hysterical.

Nani has 8 PL assists this season, Bale has 0, that says something about composure and crossing and delivery and blablabla what ever, whether you think so or not, stats are stats, and Nani is the one producing them, not Bale, so get a grip, please.



It's not fecking irrelevant in the slightest, a lot more was mentioned than just 'running past players', which Nani is just as good at as Bale, only he doesn't do the 'knock past opponent then outpace him' approach. he constantly outsmarts them and manages to get balls in the box.

They both have their own ways of doing things, you just seem to be remembering the 2 Inter games and not other games, like the weekends match where Bale didn't manage to beat a 19 year old fullback ONCE.
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I seen Bale anhilate City in the 1st game of the season.

I don't really liek to go of stats and this is the reason. This time last year Bellamy had a shitload of goals and a shit load of assists. He also quicker than both Bale and Nani and a better finisher than both and just as good with both feet. He has also performed at the top level for years and has a desire to win better than almost any player I have seen. BUT would you rather have Bellamy over both nani and Bale even though his stats are better?

I know what your saying about Bale against united, he had an off game and United suprised me at the weekend as I htough they would have it harder than they did

Also Tevez's stats piss all over mostplayers in world football at the minute, would United fans say Teevez is in the top 5 players in world football at the minute and easily better than Rooney as thats what the stats suggest
 
Blair said:
Spurs must be really bad from set pieces then as we're shit.
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dunno about that, we've scored 3-4 goals from set pieces this season, I can remember about Berbatov vs Liverpool, Owen vs Bolton and Vidic vs Spurs. Shit we aren't.
 
TheReligion said:
You can tell you are a City fan. A few glimpses of something good, ie Bale's displays against Inter, and you want to open up Mansour's chequebook, declare him the best winger in the world, and get a replica shirt with his name on the back of it.

Forget about what Bale does week in week out in the PL.
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Bale has been magnificent since the turn of the year. He ripped City to pieces twice
 
Ah, nhd is a bitter. That makes sense then. It is kind of nice to have a City fan around here again though.

I'll leave the Bale vs. Nani stuff for now. My last comment on the matter is that a few years ago Ashley Young was the popular winger. The resident Scousers thought it was a hilarious suggestion that Nani would surpass Young, even though it was clear to see that Nani's skill was far superior. Young is simply a less talented footballer. Likewise Milner, who was last season's popular pick - based on a few good moments and some rave reviews. I think Bale is probably better than Young and Milner ever will be but Nani is simply on another level.
 
newtonheathdave said:
I don't really liek to go of stats and this is the reason. This time last year Bellamy had a shitload of goals and a shit load of assists. He also quicker than both Bale and Nani and a better finisher than both and just as good with both feet. He has also performed at the top level for years and has a desire to win better than almost any player I have seen. BUT would you rather have Bellamy over both nani and Bale even though his stats are better?
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:lol:

You pick the biggest cnut in football to ask that question about, my god.
 
Mockney said:
No it isn't. Neither Rooney or Ronaldo had anywhere near a seasons worth of such performances before they were hyped up as the next great things sinced sliced jesus..
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I don't totally agree. Ronaldo only got that after 2007. A season in which he was the good through out. Rooney didn't. But he is British like Bale. So no surprise there.

Mockney said:
Tis the way of football unfortunately. However since Bale was Spurs' best performer in the latter half of last season and should've gotten the Young Player of the Year Award if it wasn't voted for in fecking March, he's only about a month or so away from actually having a whole season of such form under his belt anyway.
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It is sad that that is the way of football nowadays.

For me if he finishes this season in the form he has started it with. He will deserve such hype. For me right now its premature. I'm glad he isn't allowing it to get to his head. He infact looked embarrassed when asked about it after the Inter game.
 
newtonheathdave said:
Bellamy gets a rough ride, hes a top bloke and a bloody good footballer. Mit on the mad side but I would rather have him in my team than playing against me
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bellamy is a decent footballer who had a very good season last year, other than that he's never been much of a standout. He's in the Championship now for feck sake.

And anyway, he's 30 years old and has had far more time at the top than either Nani or Bale. It's such a daft comparison.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Then you're not really in touch with the real world. .
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On the contrary I am. I just scoff at such folly.

amolbhatia100 said:
Firstly, this kind of hype is expected because it always happens.
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No it doesn't always happens. It only always happen with British or British based players. That is why their press used to go on and on how the couldn't understand why Ronaldinho w as wing world player of the year over their beloved Henry.

amolbhatia100 said:
Secondly, what young player plays like this for a full season? Do you remember Rooney and Ronaldo when they were 21? And they ended up getting hyped up like mad anyway.
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Yes. Ronaldo 2007. Messi 2009. Rooney is the odd one out. And guess where he hails from...
 
Treble said:
dunno about that, we've scored 3-4 goals from set pieces this season, I can remember about Berbatov vs Liverpool, Owen vs Bolton and Vidic vs Spurs. Shit we aren't.
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If we clear the first man from the delivery we have a chance. It's the delivery where we're shit. We have players who can attack the ball with power.
 
newtonheathdave said:
This time last year Bellamy had a shitload of goals and a shit load of assists.
He also tore us a new one.

He also quicker than both Bale and Nani and a better finisher than both and just as good with both feet.
Better finisher yes, quicker is debatable.

He has also performed at the top level for years and has a desire to win better than almost any player I have seen. BUT would you rather have Bellamy over both nani and Bale even though his stats are better?
I'd have Bellamy over Adebayor, SWP, Jo, Santa Cruz, Milner. I honestly don't understand why you got rid of him.

Also Tevez's stats piss all over mostplayers in world football at the minute, would United fans say Teevez is in the top 5 players in world football at the minute and easily better than Rooney as thats what the stats suggest.
I would, right now he is playing much, much better than Rooney and that's not even up for debate. Top 5 players in world football he might sneak in, 3 are at Barca, 1 at Madrid and the other is up for debate with Tevez maybe on the shortlist.
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cina said:
bellamy is a decent footballer who had a very good season last year, other than that he's never been much of a standout. He's in the Championship now for feck sake.

And anyway, he's 30 years old and has had far more time at the top than either Nani or Bale. It's such a daft comparison.
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I'm just showing why stats are not the be all and end all mate as Bellamys at this time last season were superb. Also like I said Tevez's have been amazing for 12 months now, only Drogba gets close really yet no United fan is gonna say Tevez stats are amazing so he must be better than Rooney.

Maybe I should leave this debate now as I rate Bale higher than Nani. I think the problem here is that i watch Nani play and he will lose the ball and give it away when theres an easy option that he does not take. He will do this all game but then hes just as likely to score a wonder goal and get united out of trouble, therefore United fans totally forget the 7 times he gives the ball away.

As for Bales no assists stat in the prem, thats a joke tbh and the likes of Crouch and Defoe should be getting the blame for that as hes been putting it on a plate for them
 
newtonheathdave said:
I'm just showing why stats are not the be all and end all mate as Bellamys at this time last season were superb. Also like I said Tevez's have been amazing for 12 months now, only Drogba gets close really yet no United fan is gonna say Tevez stats are amazing so he must be better than Rooney.

Maybe I should leave this debate now as I rate Bale higher than Nani. I think the problem here is that i watch Nani play and he will lose the ball and give it away when theres an easy option that he does not take. He will do this all game but then hes just as likely to score a wonder goal and get united out of trouble, therefore United fans totally forget the 7 times he gives the ball away.

As for Bales no assists stat in the prem, thats a joke tbh and the likes of Crouch and Defoe should be getting the blame for that as hes been putting it on a plate for them
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Tevez has definitely been a better player than Rooney in the last 12 months, I most certainly am not debating that. Better than Drogba though? Now you're just being biased again. Drogba is the PLs best striker by a good distance at the moment.

I agree, you should go, you're blinded by your love of Bale.
 
cina said:
Tevez has definitely been a better player than Rooney in the last 12 months, I most certainly am not debating that. Better than Drogba though? Now you're just being biased again. Drogba is the PLs best striker by a good distance at the moment.

I agree, you should go, you're blinded by your love of Bale.
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I don't think Tevez is the best, I am just stating that stats can be missleading and using Tevez as an example.

I don't have a love of Bale, far from it. If you said Shaun Goater then yeah I am biased and won't hear a word spoke against him but in regards of Bale I can only go of what I see and he looks utter class
 
why are people even comparing Nani and Bale?

They both play the same position but are competely different types of player. IF we were interested in Bale its because he would bring a different type of balance to the team
 
R_Nick said:
He really isn't half the danger, that's just silly, he plays a different way on the left to the right but his ability with his left foot is improving all the time, as shown by his goal against Bersaspor the other week and his effort which hit the bar against Spurs, amongst others which don't immediately jump to mind.

Not to mention that he switches from wing to wing during the game anyway, which if he was half the danger he obviously wouldn't do. The fuss being made over Bale at the moment is extremely over the top, yes he's a cracking player but if he wasn't English not half the wanking would be going on. You and others are doing a big disservice to our wingers by suggesting he'd be a sudden improvement on our current set up when fit.
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Big disservice, what on earth are you on about Nick... Bale is clearly a better left winger than Nani is. Nani is a better right winger than Bale is. Nani is the more versatile as he can still play left wing to a very good standard even if he isn't as amazing down that side as he is on his clearly favoured right hand side.

Nani's two-footedness actually defeats your argument, as he is more capable of getting the best out of his ambidextrous ability by playing on the right i.e. crossing with his right to a world class standard and cutting in and unleashing that hammer of a left foot. His dribbling has come along leaps and bounds since he has featured on the right, going around people on the outside and coming inside too... on the left he simply didn't have the physique to take people on around the outside and his game was very forced rather than the natural exhuberance we witness from him now.

Not only is that clear to anyone who has watched him since that Arsenal game, but the stats back it up too.. he is simply a different player on the right and I'd rather have him on that flank and purchase a natural left sided player than limit him by trying to fit in Valencia who is less of a player albeit a very good one nonetheless.

golden_blunder said:
why are people even comparing Nani and Bale?

They both play the same position but are competely different types of player. IF we were interested in Bale its because he would bring a different type of balance to the team
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Because it there is a plague of overrating Bale and severely underrating him in the very same thread. The gooner seem unable to give him any credit, we have some comparing him to Theo Walcott ffs who doesn't possess anywhere near the quality in delivery or the physicality to Bales game and then there are others who claim Bale 'shits' on Nani on the basis of two games admittedly against one of the worlds leading defences but Nani has been nothing short of amazing for us since the start of the season.

Both play on opposite flanks too, yet this point is beyond comprehension for many.
 
newtonheathdave said:
I don't really liek to go of stats and this is the reason. This time last year Bellamy had a shitload of goals and a shit load of assists. He also quicker than both Bale and Nani and a better finisher than both and just as good with both feet. He has also performed at the top level for years and has a desire to win better than almost any player I have seen. BUT would you rather have Bellamy over both nani and Bale even though his stats are better?
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:lol:
 
Sky Sports new having a Bale -v- Messi stats comparison.....Zzzzzzzzzzzz

This Bale media hype is getting boring...
 
cj_sparky said:
Sky Sports new having a Bale -v- Messi stats comparison.....Zzzzzzzzzzzz

This Bale media hype is getting boring...
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Surprise Surprise Sky have jumped on the bandwagon. Not like them to do that.
 
sidlowe

Bale was good last night but it's not his best ever perofmance .... He was better in Planet of the Apes

I chuckled
 
Name Changed said:
There's also some serious underrating in here. If that was one of our players, it would be a full scale non-stop wankathon.
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I wouldn't say he's been underrated on here. Speaking for myself, I've only seen him play closely in a handful of games. He's clearly a very exciting player....and I'd love to see him at Old Trafford, mainly because his style's reminiscent of Sharpe/Kanchelskis'.
 
...the left-footed Valencia. Seriously, I just watched the highlights, this comparison must have been made repeatedly by now. They play in the exact same style, it's just that Bale is apparently a better finisher. He's also no better than Antonio, which is no insult, but this stuff about him being one of the best players in the world is farcical. Christ, imagine the shit we'd have to put up with if he was English.

cj_sparky said:
Sky Sports new having a Bale -v- Messi stats comparison.....Zzzzzzzzzzzz

This Bale media hype is getting boring...
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You'd have to be on a deliberate wind up to do that, Bale's stats will be atrocious in comparison.
 
He's a better crosser, he's a set piece specialist, he can play at fullback, he's good in the air, he's better than Valencia but perhaps not as consistant.
 
...the left-footed Valencia. Seriously, I just watched the highlights, this comparison must have been made repeatedly by now.
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Allforone said:
Probably but the comparison is a fair one, Bale and Valencia are very similar in style, both like to isolate the full back and beat them on the outside for pace, theres no stepovers or fancy skills nothing complicated its simply a case of knocking the ball past the full back and out sprinting them then delivering, Valencia did that all last season for us, now Valencia isn't as good as Bale as Bale does everything that bit quicker which makes him look far more devastating but the angle of attack and the attitude is exactly the same, they both have very simple approaches to the game and look to do the same thing.
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Indeed it has :)
 
Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber said:
For me if he finishes this season in the form he has started it with. He will deserve such hype. For me right now its premature. I'm glad he isn't allowing it to get to his head. He infact looked embarrassed when asked about it after the Inter game.
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This is my stance on him.

A few brilliant performances and suddenly he's being mentioned close to Messi. Right now, it is ridiculous.

From what he's shown, he defenitely has the potential to be world class. Consistency will prove whether he can live up to the current hype surrounding him.
 
Karel_Poborsky said:
He's good but he constantly gets outpaced by every man and his dog which annoys me. For me to consider him on the level sky are rating him, I would have to see him prove he can play like he is for a full season, rather than just parts of last and the start of this.
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Karel_Poborsky said:
He does get constantly out paced. Pace is not an attribute he possess. But why you chose to insult me than express your own opinion is beyond me, it's whats wrong with the football forums in my opinion. Unnecessary.
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Just spotted these from page 1 of this thread. Bale slow :lol:
 
Vidic, O'Shea, Giggs, Evra, Berbatov, Scholes, Rooney and Nani have all assisted more Premiership goals than Bale this season.
 
This is the same Bale who was shit vs United being outplayed by Rafael. Looked mediocre vs Everton, too. His consistency isn't anywhere near the standard of Messi and Ronaldo, and probably his class isn't either. Just a flavor of the month. Or week rather as he's only been talked about after the two Inter games.
 
wr8_utd said:
Vidic, O'Shea, Giggs, Evra, Berbatov, Scholes, Rooney and Nani have all assisted more Premiership goals than Bale this season.
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I posted an Opta tweet earlier, 102 players have more assists than Bale in the league this season.
 
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