He's the left-footed Valencia, this much should be obvious to anyone. He's no fecking Ronaldo, obviously.
Saying that, we really miss Valencia.
Saying that, we really miss Valencia.
Gareth Bale is...The most expensive player ever?!
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Carragher said on Soccer Saturday yesterday that he'd have Bale on the left in his World XI and that there is "nobody better in that position"
Good player with huge potential but World XI material? Jesus Christ, he's been struggling to get past being found out(for now anyway) and double-teamed in the PL. He's been nothing more than decent bar against City on the opening day and a game and a half against Inter.
Ronaldo, Messi, Robben and Nani are all better than Bale, Carragher is a fecking spastic caught up in the media hype as well it seems.
He is scarily good for someone his age.
He's very good, but "scarily good"... I wouldn't go that far.
Personal opinion, I think he is class.
He is class, but it doesn't 'scare' me.
Just how bloody quick is the lad? He was completely outpacing Rafael yesterday, and he's really quick!
To be fair he really didn't do much at all, Rafael got sent off not because of him and he didn't do anything against a make shift full back in Fletcher.
He started off on fire, and then just lost it a bit.
Only remember that happening once and that was when Rafael was on the back foot, pretty easy to beat someone with pace in that situation. Whenever they were running together Rafael more than held his own.
I'd rather have Arjen Robben.
Wouldn't have him over Nani or Valencia.
Certainly a talent though, although yesterday he didn't manage much.
Certainly a talent though, although yesterday he didn't manage much.
Oh me too, but I save words like "scary" for the likes of Messi and Ronaldo, even Robben scares me MUCH more than Bale. He's played against us twice this season and done the grand total of f-all.
Most right backs would disagree.
But Blair's not a right back.
Ronaldo...He was scarily good for his age. As was Fabregas.
Bale is very good and has great potential, but I wouldn't say he's a class above for his age.
Ronaldo...He was scarily good for his age. As was Fabregas.
Bale is very good and has great potential, but I wouldn't say he's a class above for his age.
Skinned him a couple of times, luckily his crossing was way off.
Exactly.
I'd say he is well above the class of his age frankly. Spurs had the odd obsession of trying to take us down Lennons side in the 2nd half and Bale went quiet.
His crossing was a little off target yesterday though but he was still easily getting them in and to think this is his first proper first team season in the premiership.
His crossing was a little off target yesterday though but he was still easily getting them in and to think this is his first proper first team season in the premiership.
He's not a class above for his age. Wilshere and Balotelli are younger and Bale isn't a class above them.
He hardly skinned Rafael, his only trick seems to be the "kick and run" tactic that he employs to outpace defenders. Andy Gray was sure loving it when he managed to get one decent cross in, kept quiet when Bale hoofed it out of play though the twat.
His crossing is as good as any winger in the world to be fair to him.
I agree, he is good at crossing. Yesterday he wasnt much of a danger
He's above the (general) class of his age, but not a class above for his age.
There are plenty of wingers, or just players, who have demonstrated as much/more as Bale has at his age and younger.
Honestly, some of the reaction to his seasons would have been better suited to Ronaldo's early rise at Untied.
There are plenty of wingers, or just players, who have demonstrated as much/more as Bale has at his age and younger.
Honestly, some of the reaction to his seasons would have been better suited to Ronaldo's early rise at Untied.
I dont think you could make a fool out of Maicon and many other top class defenders if thats all he can do.Basically you are just saying he is the next Dennis Rommedahl then?!
Basically you are just saying he is the next Dennis Rommedahl then?!
But the thing is, that is what he done? And he's pretty bloody effective at it.
Theres more to his game than that though. Technically he is very good, he scores goals too.
He also is quite good from dead ball situations, free kicks/corners etc
Im not saying he is the best player ever or anything, but theres so much more to him than kick and run.
I think Orton is talking specifically about his ability to beat defenders, he does say 'tactic that he employs to outpace defenders' when he mentions the kick and run technique, he's not talking about all aspects of Bale's game.
He's not wrong either, Bale's most successful trait against defenders is beating them head on with pace. There's nothing wrong with that, and plenty of players do it, but it's an observation.
He's not wrong either, Bale's most successful trait against defenders is beating them head on with pace. There's nothing wrong with that, and plenty of players do it, but it's an observation.
Fair enough, didnt read that properly then.
But yeh, in regards to taking on defenders id agree.
I think there is far too much hype (the manic hype I mean) around him at the moment.
You can't argue he hasn't impressed, he has. He is a traditional winger, sticks to his lines and has the ability to produce great crosses with pace. He can beat men, although usually this is achieved through pace, or extreme short-distance sprints, which he excels in. He has an eye for goal, but more impressive is his actual finishing, plenty of runs ending in low-powered shots, but hit with clinical accuracy. His consistency to find the corners of the goals from a range of angles was a surprise to me at least.
That said, I don't think he has an overall consistency to his game, and when double-marked he can look a bit faded then again he's already achieved a small victory from taking two players away from the opposition. I think he's still got a couple years in him yet before we see the player people are talking about, if we do see him.
Has all the right characteristics for a winger and his mentality must be strong, considering his start to his career at Spurs and the barrage of criticism he faced. I didn't really have any hope for him, and dismissed him quite early on at Spurs, clearly that was hasty and wrong of me. That said, he's a career away from some players he's put alongside, the early Ronaldo, Messi, Robben comparisons don't do it for me, he's nowhere near them, and hasn't shown the ability they did at that age.
A class signing and will most probably become a very class player. Can't see him at Spurs for long though.
You can't argue he hasn't impressed, he has. He is a traditional winger, sticks to his lines and has the ability to produce great crosses with pace. He can beat men, although usually this is achieved through pace, or extreme short-distance sprints, which he excels in. He has an eye for goal, but more impressive is his actual finishing, plenty of runs ending in low-powered shots, but hit with clinical accuracy. His consistency to find the corners of the goals from a range of angles was a surprise to me at least.
That said, I don't think he has an overall consistency to his game, and when double-marked he can look a bit faded then again he's already achieved a small victory from taking two players away from the opposition. I think he's still got a couple years in him yet before we see the player people are talking about, if we do see him.
Has all the right characteristics for a winger and his mentality must be strong, considering his start to his career at Spurs and the barrage of criticism he faced. I didn't really have any hope for him, and dismissed him quite early on at Spurs, clearly that was hasty and wrong of me. That said, he's a career away from some players he's put alongside, the early Ronaldo, Messi, Robben comparisons don't do it for me, he's nowhere near them, and hasn't shown the ability they did at that age.
A class signing and will most probably become a very class player. Can't see him at Spurs for long though.
He's powerful, quick, a great crosser, great free kick taker, great engine, scores goals etc etc
What's not to like?
Great player - definitely the one that got away.
What's not to like?
Great player - definitely the one that got away.
....wasted at Spurs.
Think that's a bit harsh. If Redknapp can keep that squad together, they could well emerge as a consistent title contender.
Bale has done a lot more than both this season.
Has all of the attributes to be a truly world class player if he keeps developing. If he was at United people on here would be raving about him.
Wilshere is 19 and has more to his game
You cannot compare Wilshere, Balotelli and Bale. Waste of time and 3 completely different players playing in 3 completely different positions.
Ah but they have to - they can't simply concede that he's a great young player.
Well, Balotelli has barely played, but consider the stats...
Balotelli - 11 Games 9 Goals
Bale - 30 Games 11 Goals
Obviously stats aren't the be all end all of judging a player, but they show an indication. I think it's hard to argue the above with the statement 'Bale has done a lot more then both this season'.
He has outscored Balotelli by two goals, with almost three times as many games.
Wilshire on the other hand doesn't play the same positions, but he has been in great form for Arsenal, and demonstrated as much ability and consistency as Bale has, also he is two years younger.
Not that the comparisons really make sense considering age and position, but just to show that it really isn't the case that he's done a lot more.
Balotelli - 11 Games 9 Goals
Bale - 30 Games 11 Goals
Obviously stats aren't the be all end all of judging a player, but they show an indication. I think it's hard to argue the above with the statement 'Bale has done a lot more then both this season'.
He has outscored Balotelli by two goals, with almost three times as many games.
Wilshire on the other hand doesn't play the same positions, but he has been in great form for Arsenal, and demonstrated as much ability and consistency as Bale has, also he is two years younger.
Not that the comparisons really make sense considering age and position, but just to show that it really isn't the case that he's done a lot more.
Bale is a winger, Balotelli a striker. Balotelli has done well, sure, but Bale's return is fantastic for a winger.
How many has he set up?(How many "assists" in new money)
Bollox, he's not at United and people rave about him. If he was at United he'd be:
a) poor defensively
b) inconsistent
c) without a football brain
d) some other shite that our fans would spout to criticise a player, thus making them feel that they "know" football.