If ever there was a misleading stat.
Gareth Bale is...The most expensive player ever?!
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If ever there was a misleading stat.
OK, this is the business end of the season with 12 games to go. Let's look at Bale's contribution compared with Walcott's until the end of the season.
7th highest = how many crosses per game?
He's older, and has largely played in a better side. Was he as effective as Bale as a 23 year old?
For the record RVP is clearly one of the best players in the world right now.
My point was that Fergie paid top dollar for a player with 12 months on his contract, a poor injury record and who is at an age where he's got maybe one big contract in him. And it was a wise choice.
From that point of view a player like Bale represents more risk, but he could also bring a lot of reward, not least a potential sell on value if he continues to develop.
Rio Ferdinand was similar - a huge transfer fee (still a record for a British Defender?) - and now, 10 years or so on it looks a good deal. At the time plenmty of people considered it ridiculous money for any player, let alone a centre half.
Whether the club would be inclined to go for Bale - I have no idea. But I'm sure Fergie has been impressed by his deveopment.
I'm not sure where that comes from?
He seems like a nice lad when he's on TV and certainly isn't banging the drum about what a great player he is. if anything he's quite modest from the interviews I've seen.
I don't know if it's recent but I read somewhere that Bale said the comparisons between him and Ronaldo are just what they are, the reality is that the Real Madrid is way ahead of him at the moment.
It makes things a bit different for me cause you always this get this natural dislike for someone who gets unfairly overhyped but Bale seems down to earth on his current abilities
It makes things a bit different for me cause you always this get this natural dislike for someone who gets unfairly overhyped but Bale seems down to earth on his current abilities
8 crosses per game and 2 accurate.
If you take the cross at the beginning of the MOTD analysis for his performance on Saturday, that doesn't actually count as an accurate cross. Yet of course it's a fantastic delivery only Spurs don't have anyone to get on the end of these.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2ZY3UiY1Bw
Whilst against Sunderland Walcott was credited for an assist for passing the ball to Cazorla.
Bale is a good kid. Dives a bit too much for my liking, but otherwise, seems like a great professional on and off the pitch. I'd bite their hand off for the right price. 50 million pounds, is not that price.
There's a pettiness to it. For example, he tries to emulate Ronaldo, so therefore he must be up his own arse. His 'price tag', the comparisons to other players, the personal awards, for some folk this creates the impression that he loves himself. When of course these are all external factors that he can't do anything about.
I've no doubt there are a few who genuinely don't rate his ability all that high but I'd say most have let their judgement become clouded by some odd, unsubstantiated personal dislike.
He put in an absolute corker of a cross a few mins before he scored at the weekend that will have gone down as an unsuccessful cross because it was cut out. Statistics don't tell even half of the story.
He's been the best winger in the league all season and would be sensational at United. It's in-fathomable* that anyone could deny it.
*I may have made that word up... :/
He's been the best winger in the league all season and would be sensational at United. It's in-fathomable* that anyone could deny it.
*I may have made that word up... :/
still would take angel di maria over the welsh simian as i stated earlier in this mega thread.
Bale is British and probably better already. Di Maria's goal and assist stats are not that impressive this season, playing in a much better team too.
It really does boggle the mind how some people on TV can say he's better than Ronaldo with a straight face. I mean we all know it, but coming up against Ronaldo tonight - who as mentioned was fairly average by his standard - was fecking horrible. Immense, immense player and just in a completely different league to Bale. Seriously one of the worst football 'statements' I've ever heard - up there with Pele's quote on mcmanaman 'one of the best players in Europe' and could be the 'best in the world'.
Does anyone else think having someone like Bale for us in that game would not have made us very dangerous on the counter... he's been linked to Madrid and Barca but I can't help feel that if anything his style of play is best suited to featuring for us.
He is the perfect player for us.
Agreed.
And 50 million would be a bargain. Think that they would want 60 probably.
If Nani is flogged for half of that who knows?
Would be a sensational buy.
50 million a bargain ??? I'm reading it correctly ?
He would have destroyed people on the counter with the strategy we were playing against Madrid. They couldn't have over committed much either.
Dunno about him at 50 million though.
Dunno about him at 50 million though.
He'd have looked out of his depth unless he had 40 yards of space to run into. £50m for that is stupid when we have goals and creativity all over the squad.
No, feck it, lets give them 80m!
I mean, if we're going to go retard, we may as well go full fecking retard.
At first I thought there might be sarcasm in there but doesn't sound like it. A bargain at 50m, jesus.
Anyway whilst Bale would have been a great option to have on the counter, so would either of our two main wingers, Nani or Valencia, if any were in any form. You can't help that, we know both can do much better than they are.
Anyway whilst Bale would have been a great option to have on the counter, so would either of our two main wingers, Nani or Valencia, if any were in any form. You can't help that, we know both can do much better than they are.
He calls it a bargain too. That's the best bit.Bale is worth 50m IMO.
Current talent + potential future talent + British = 50m
Current talent + potential future talent + British = 50m
Bull shit.
He would have wrecked havoc along with Welbeck on chasing the over the top balls, which their defenders were struggling with athletically and just ripped apart Arbeloa given the space that was available yesterday.Though,having said that, Mourinho would have made special plans for him.
I am not sure he is worth 50 million, but he is a fantastic athlete who know is developing a end product with a wonderful left foot.
Nani wouldn't go for more than £24M imo.
Yeah, Nani will go cut price if he does. Will have 1 year left in the summer too on his contract.
Plus his wage demands are huge which even Zenit rejected last summer.
Plus his wage demands are huge which even Zenit rejected last summer.
We won't get more than 15m with 12 months on his contract. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go for 10m.
Look at players who have gone for considerably less then that just recently. Suarez, silva, mata, fabregas, modric at around £25mil, Aguero at £35m. Bale isn't in a different league to any of those players nor would I say he's got more potential than most of them.
He's really not.
If he'd carried Spurs to a few trophies or performed in the CL a few years running then maybe, but I still don't see anyone paying that for him.
Did you forget the white text?
Aguero was 38m, how long do you think that he will stay at City? With Bale you are getting a guy who would stay at the club for 10 years, no winter blues and no whinging, by all accounts Bale is supposed to be the model pro. I am not saying that we should go in at 50m, that would be the ceiling, but I would be happy with that fee if it were paid.
Pops
He is carrying Spurs into the Champions League.
He might well be but I still don't think it justifies a 50m price tag. He's a good player with the potential to be great but the only way he would command a fee like that would be on the back of 2-3 seasons performing at his highest level consistently.
It is akin to when we paid 30m for Rio, at the time it seemed crazy but over the years it has been proven to be good business. I think that the same would happen with Bale, he would be a key player for us for many years.
Rio as in, arguably the best central defender of his generation, or close to it.
50m is a lot more than 30m too.
50m is a lot more than 30m too.
That was like years ago, tbf. Anyways, wasn't Rio closer to 25 than 30 ?
Worst poster in this forum and that's a forum that includes the guy who said Welbeck never scores in the big matches.
It's nothing like the Rio transfer, Rio became the most expensive defender in the world when Leeds bought him (if there was any risk in paying big money for him it was then) and he then went on to help them to a CL semi and became club captain.
I'm not saying Bales not very good but he hasn't achieved what Rio had, and we're talking almost double the fee.
No way can it be justified that Bale is rightly worth 50 millions