The point is that doing it 87mins in at 3-0 down when 80% of the glorious fans are already home is utterly pointless.
Gary Neville
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The point is that doing it 87mins in at 3-0 down when 80% of the glorious fans are already home is utterly pointless.
'Legend'. Give it a break! And even if he is a legend, the guys a total pleb of a guy. Look at him on any other programme, the guys a bully and complete and utter see you next Tuesday. Couldn't care less what he did for us on the pitch.
I agree. Just find Neville going overboard on us again annoying.
First, we happily kicked Arsenal around under Wenger. Often ruffled them and got us good results.
Second, would you rather our players just stop contesting the ball 3-0 down then? Cos the alternative to trying to make things a little hard for them would've been just to stand around and let them waltz about?
Third, I grew up with the 1994 team. Don't really have issues with our players giving some out in bad circumstances. The way we reacted against Galatasary back then wasn't exactly model behaviour but oh well. I prefer a Man Utd team with a bit of devil in it to choir boys. We take being beaten too lightly these days.
He actually speaks a lot of sense, anything but a bully. But then again you don't consider him a legend despite what he won with the club, and being club captain so why I'm wasting time on someone who could write what they know about the club on a tictac I don't know
You're not seeing the difference with being a hard tackling team, and acting like petulant children
No we do not want them to stand around, we want them to work as an organised team and win the ball back, running around on your own diving in and leaving space is not how to do that
State of his collar, almost as bad as his punditry.
Right. Cos Roy Keane stood on Gareth Southgate's crown jewels in the spirit of sportsmanship..
He was as irritated as I’d expect any United fan to be watching that.
He knows what it means to be a United player and to wear the armband so it’s no surprise most of his criticism was reserved for Bruno and Antony.
He knows what it means to be a United player and to wear the armband so it’s no surprise most of his criticism was reserved for Bruno and Antony.
Yep it's the last thing anyone wants when we've already suffered up the latest comfy defeat to them.
You arent getting away with some of the kicking that Neville did against Arsenal back in the day anymore. Picking up a (red) card and a suspension in an already lost game is just stupid. Football has changed. Kicking, causing injuries and getting away with it is not really a part of football anymore. I think that is a good thing.
Absolutely bang on in his debate with Carragher in the studio.
Neville getting schooled by Carra. On the training pitch, ETH isn’t doing anything.
Neville blaming the owners. Doesn’t matter what the owners do. Monday to Friday. What is the style of play.
Neville blaming the owners. Doesn’t matter what the owners do. Monday to Friday. What is the style of play.
Really don’t understand why people have a problem with his commentary. I think there’s this expectation for him to be biased because of his affiliation with us, but he generally calls it right most of the time.
Roy Keane tried to slap Alan Shearer in a game we were losing at Newcastle and got sent off. It's got nothing to do with what's acceptable and everything to do with how bad you take defeat.
The current Man Utd squad has too many good losers. If they were boxers they'd be called cans. They're great at taking a beating. They'll always show up with a smile to take a beating.
I didn't get any real sense that today's loss hurt most of our players. They weren't thinking about the lads and ladies leaving the ground having to listen to City fans. They weren't thinking about the taunting that's going to happen. They weren't offended to be second best.
We got a lot of good losers in our team and I hate it.
No but he wasn’t a petulant child
I think you’re the only one looking like a “ see you next Tuesday “. Regardless of peoples views on his takes, he’s literally the definition of a club legend.
I mean, a legit United fan should know this right.
I don't watch any post-game punditry. Did he put the boot in with Rashford or was it just the foreign lads who got it?
I was at the game but from reading this thread it sounds like he decided to make up some more tripe on commentary. Didn't fancy saying Bruno was asking to be subbed again so he went for a different lie in a similar vein. Good thing there aren't many scouse pundits working in the media, otherwise Neville would be giving them more ammunition to spend the next few days doing another over-the-top character assassination of United's captain.
Sorry but what he did to Haaland was very petulant.
Yeah. Him trying to slap Alan Shearer when we were losing at Newcastle was all about geeing up his teammates. The subsequent red card was designed to inspire his teammates to pull the score line back.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Keane was hated by everyone not us and, frankly, I liked it that way and I'm sure he did too.
Completely this. Carragher and the rest will eat it up. I'm sure TalksH!te will be all over it too.
If you go by some of what's written on here you'd think Roy Keane was like Captain America.
Was 90% about the owners/state of the club.
And a bit about the sub at ht being wrong.
I can’t stand him on commentary for our games, tries so hard to be unbiased he goes so far the other way. Even when we do get a win he makes it seem like it’s by the skin of our teeth and criticises how bad the opposition are as opposed to how good we’ve been. I’d rather he was like Carragher, we all know where your allegiances lie so just own it.
That's it? He's let the players off easy then. Probably mates with lots of them then, I guess?
I agree.
Letting them win tackles and duels like Rashford did twice against Walker in one attack in their box is the way to go. Might as well give them pat on the pack for playing well mid game and make them play even better.
He called them good lads.
You could tell that he didn't want to talk about the owners as it's become a bit of a meme at this point but the more Carragher laid into ten Hag he just couldn't help himself and went on a 15 minute rant about everything wrong behind the scenes.
Carragher is spot on, which makes me get acid reflux just saying it. The performances can only be blamed on the coach at this moment. The players, too, but that's another kettle of fish. How can this team look as clueless as they have all season? Its obscene how bad he's had them playing.
Still wasn’t a petulant child, there was a vendetta against haaland for shouting in his ear when he suffered his knee injury
Antony came on with his pet lip out
Massive difference for meYeah. Him trying to slap Alan Shearer when we were losing at Newcastle was all about geeing up his teammates. The subsequent red card was designed to inspire his teammates to pull the score line back.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Keane was hated by everyone not us and, frankly, I liked it that way and I'm sure he did too.
Completely this. Carragher and the rest will eat it up. I'm sure TalksH!te will be all over it too.
If you go by some of what's written on here you'd think Roy Keane was like Captain America.
He saw red mist on sherear where as Bruno and Antony were sulking
and to be fair we are comparing Keanes attitude to an absolute fraud in Bruno
Nothing wrong with what he said about Bruno. He’s the captain and he’s absolutely turd.
Completely disagree. It's exactly what a petulant child would do. But it's okay to disagree.
He moaned at Bruno for being fouled by Stones. Then he blamed Bruno for Antony squaring up to Doku
I think both Neville and Carragher were right in their points here.
I said what Jamie mentioned about Casemiro in the summer, he's not a good signing on the principle of already having to rebuild the midfield. In addition to purchasing Eriksen it's worth 70M and then some with wages. Got blasted for it but it's true. Its like having a decomposing high mileage sports car and despite having the budget for a newer model, the owner purchases another high mileage car that's depreciating like a waterfall and then eventually shoots himself in the pockets to replace the one just purchased. The same can be said for the club's pursuit of Pavard and the potential signing of Rabiot.
The team under ETH is being put together not built there's a distinction.
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There's something different about seeing serial winners taking a loss badly, as opposed to perennial losers looking whingy and petulant.
He was right on the stones incident. Bruno was to blame for many things today and spent the rest of the game moaning at others. You may disagree on a couple of individual incidents but Bruno is beyond appalling.He moaned at Bruno for being fouled by Stones. Then he blamed Bruno for Antony squaring up to Doku
Carragher is spot on. Gary is going nowhere with his argument. First he says it's all been the same under every manager then he blames the minority investment and people being scared to lose their jobs. So which is it?
ETH's abysmal performances can't be excused with the rats above him
What I disagree with is Neville's double standards. He won't utter any bad words toward Rashford who has been more appealing in general play but has no problem gunning for Bruno to the extent he blames him for fouls hes not even involved in.
I'm still fascinated by him being a pundit while having completely failed at Valencia.