I find it hard to understand the hate towards G Nev. I agree with pretty much all he says he was a great player for us, he’s a great pundit, proving to be a great business man and voice for the average bloke. I wish he was involved in running our club and not Salford. He wants what Is best for united and the fans I think
Gary Neville
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I get this vibe a lot with a fair few of our players who are around the punditry scene right now. Scholes, Evra, Rio off the top of my head. These guys had "it". They were among some of the most naturally gifted players that I've ever watched, and I get the feeling that they take it for granted just how good they were and probably think that just about anyone can be as good as them with the same requisite effort/coaching that they had.
Admits he's been wrong on foreign investment in clubs, also talks politics and how he'd prefer to work for Liverpool than the Conservative party!
To be fair he's already working for Liverpool so he won't need to make any adjustments.
I’m glad he’s finally seen that these oligarchs are not good for football because they are inevitably tied into bad shit but I have to laugh at his reasoning and the irony for welcoming them in the first place.
“They made it more competitive”…
Since Man City’s takeover in 2008, a total of 40 domestic trophies have been won…
Man City and Chelsea have won 21 of those, more than half between two clubs and this guy thinks that’s made it more competitive.
Yeah it broke up United and Arsenal but you’ve just put two clubs in their place whos success is purely down to money and has no redeeming qualities to it that I’d argue United and Arsenal had at least.
The only reason why that trophy count isn’t higher for the oil clubs is because the league was lucky enough to have two of the greatest ever managers in Fergie and Klopp.
It was always about breaking the monopoly United had on the game, competition was never the aim. The same journos/pundits calling out foreign owners now knew exactly what the off field issues were but ignored them because it changed the dominant names on the cups but what they actually did was legitimise these clubs. The second they let Abramovich in, this was the inevitability.
He's against Conte being manager but has suggested Simeone?! His logic on this just doesn't stack up.
Lineker making more sense than Neville, what has the world come to.
I can understand the frustration. The players just don't care.
Are the Pundit ex-United players now becoming abit of a issue ?
The players can do what they want. Think the issue is if they're posting about what they're doing on social media with smiles on their faces just days after a bad result. It's not that big of a deal but it doesn't look good, considering that 99% of their followers follow them because they're fans of the team.
There's a reason why players tend to have a private social media account alongside their professional one.
There's a reason why players tend to have a private social media account alongside their professional one.
Neville looking a bit stupid there. A bad day at work doesn't mean you put your life on hold.
I know what he means. Their free time is their free time but it doesn’t give out the best message when you swan off to Dubai at the drop of a hat at every opportunity, like some of our players do. A few of them only went 6 weeks ago as well.
I'd say that's fairly standard. Whenever Neville opens his mouth about United, or Scousers/City for that matter, I try not to pay any attention.
Honestly, as long as players don't do anything illegal outside of football, I don't really care what they do.
Gary's picked the wrong target. He is clearly annoyed that a lot of the players who are broadcasting their lives are the players that have been letting United down. The players who, many suspect and he may know, have been leaking to the media and undermining the coach. I get it.
But Gary who let this happen in the first place?
Blame the Board. These players have been given an inch, they've taken a mile. Yes, maybe there's an issue there. But the culture that's been created at United is why they behave this way. If you have a bone to pick, pick it with the Board that keeps undermining manager after manager and handing out new well paid deals to players, even when those players fail, even when they only play a handful of matches a year. We're the ones giving the players the ability to act like this. I don't blame the players for not taking responsibility onto themselves when the club keeps excusing them of responsibility.
Gary should be raging at our Board.
They have been for a long time. What worries me is they want to have a say in how the club is run. Feel that Neville etc will be pro Pochettino, bothered me that Rio did an interview with him a couple of weeks back
Same. Neville is probably referring to how Fergie used to run things with an iron fist, he used to have spies out making sure players didn't go out etc... that sort of management style just wouldn't fly these days.
Seems mental to me now that he used to outright ban social media. Funny how as soon as he left everyone hopped on Twitter, even the club itself
He had absolute control, those days are gone. No manager in world football will have that sort of power ever again.Seems mental to me now that he used to outright ban social media. Funny how as soon as he left everyone hopped on Twitter, even the club itself
I like Gary but its also clear their is a disconnect between him and the current gen players. I don't think its due to his age (as Rio is similar age but has a better understanding) its just down to the type of person he is. Even when he was at united there were players like Rio, like Becks who would be seen out, in the media, etc. If social media was around then 100% Rio, becks etc would be on it, they would be no different to the players today.
People put too much focus on what current players do outside of football. For every footballer you see with a big social media presence underperforming on the pitch, you will see another player in the same position performing on the pitch. 99% of the time there is no correlation.
On a side note I do think its an issue ex players trying to compare what players do now to what they did 10-20 years ago. Its a different generation, a different world.
People put too much focus on what current players do outside of football. For every footballer you see with a big social media presence underperforming on the pitch, you will see another player in the same position performing on the pitch. 99% of the time there is no correlation.
On a side note I do think its an issue ex players trying to compare what players do now to what they did 10-20 years ago. Its a different generation, a different world.
At least Ferdinand and Rooney were on Twitter before Ferguson left - likely others I’m forgetting. I think Rio even got a ban/fine for the Ashley Cole comment.
He's mad. We've close to a three week break between games. What are they supposed to do, put themselves under voluntary house arrest until they get a good result?
Maybe a bit of self-flagellation via live stream so we can really see they're hurting.
He said the board should sell up and go
Crisp selling, pitch shitting, Woodward wanker.
Same ole sanctimonious bullcrap from our ex players. Adopting utterly rose-tinted glasses when looking back at themselves, and just highlighting how detached they are from current football culture. Having to listed to the likes of Keane, Scholes, etc reel out the same clippable drivel is just not helping anyone and is sort of embarrassing. They're honestly more like AFTV than any of our fans who stick a camera on themselves to whine about football.
So many of our former players seem to be experts at dishing it out whilst living off their former success, yet how many of them have demonstrated any sign of being able to step into management/coaching at anything close to a top level? Just grumbling their way into insignificance. Bit like the club as a whole I guess.
So many of our former players seem to be experts at dishing it out whilst living off their former success, yet how many of them have demonstrated any sign of being able to step into management/coaching at anything close to a top level? Just grumbling their way into insignificance. Bit like the club as a whole I guess.
Agreed. I like Neville as a pundit but he's way off here, it's not like the result or anything else changes if the players stay at home feeling embarrassed.
People seem to equate their working lives with the players; you have to be at a different level and commit to a load of negatives, if you want to be a top level player. It's pretty obvious that a lot of our players don't have that mindset, and that is basically what Neville is alluding to, in my opinion. I don't agree with every point that he is making, but in essence, we need more players that aren't able to just not give a shit about how we are playing to this degree, that's pretty obvious.
You don’t have to ban things to have control. Just heavily monitor players social media activity and fine or drop them for anything controversial. They’d soon get bored of it and drop it.
They're more likely to get bored of the club and switch teams.
Social media is a huge part of being a footballer these days.
Gary is getting a bit too much exposure these days, I don't mind his opinions generally but he is not a spokesperson for the club or the fans...give it a rest Gary!
In my opinion, they are a massive problem in that they have successfully poisoned the fans' relationship towards their team.
They have shaped and are constantly driving home the narrative that this United team is morally failing rather than just not performing quite well enough. I think it's on the whole a wrong, bitter, and fateful narrative and looking at a lot of the posts in this place too many fans have taken to it.
The club needs spokespeople pushing back, problem is the only person who ever speaks is the manager.
Well said
I think the essence of his tweets is that it’s not a good look . No one is asking them not to go or do things but as a fan it is rather disappointing to get the impression that what happens on the pitch doesn’t matter a lot to them . I am sure they care about winning but at United it seems like from top to bottom that they don’t care enough
Neville wants them to be miserable for 2 weeks until our next game.
I don't need the opinions of ex players to form my own on this lot. I can't stand most of them, which is fine as you stop idiolising players after a certain age.
Scholes ate his daughter's toenails and Gary kissed him mouth to mouth in the game vs City.
That's all I can say.
That's all I can say.
Nothing wrong with the latter but I can't defend the former
Neville's social media is just pages and pages of rant