Gary Neville
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Gary on Sky and Gary away from Sky are very different. Away from Sky he's reasonable.
On Sky he's an insufferable hysterical dramatic twat.
On Sky he's an insufferable hysterical dramatic twat.
Agreed. They're playing characters.
Roy Keane is just a rent-a-quote.
Carragher there to play to the populist ABU narrative you'd hear down the pub.
Micah there to offer nothing and fake laugh.
Etc.
And you don’t think most of us would go absolutely the same if we could?
I can’t believe some of the bile Im reading in here towards an absolute United man through and through. He criticises the players so gets called names such as “dickhead” or “twat”. He’s a paid analyst, what do people think he’s gonna do? He’s doing what you lot do here on a football forum when you all share your expert opinions with the rest of us.
Come on he made more than 2 fouls, every challenge he made was right on the edge. Daresay he’d have been sent off at some point had he not been subbed
First one wasn't really a yellow though.
Neville is just a theatrical cnut, and an overwhelmingly biased pundit. If Maguire did that he'd talk about caution all the same but bemoan bad luck and unfortunate circumstance on the first foul.
That's a reach.
He certainly goes out of his remit. The guy is a practically a self proclaimed fraud of a manager often praising proper coaches for believing in their system no matter what.
He then goes out on commentary about how ten hag should do 3 at the back to jump-start the team.
Hes just an all round idiot really.
He’s a Sky man through and through.
Basically...
Random Caf Poster - "I can't believe Gary Neville called us shit! What a wanker."
Same Poster in a different thread - "God we're so shit"
Yep that’s it exactly.
I don’t think that’s true at all
Bingo.
I have respect for what he's achieved overall in his career, during football as a sportsperson, and since then, both in punditry and business. I even respect him going out of his comfort zone and failing at Valencia, and not being shy about owning up to his failures - it's more than most of the other con artists he shares air waves with have ever done.
I think he's somewhat intelligent in that he's maximised his potential generally speaking and made a great living out of it.
The issue is he thinks he knows everything, has an opinion about everything, and wants everyone to know what he has to say. Sports, football tactics, management, club ownership, politics, society... he knows it all and he speaks with the confidence of someone that doesn't know the limits of what they should be speaking about. Which doesn't discredit everything he says - he makes very good points about a variety of topics. But he also talks a massive amount of bullshit about many other ones - and because he speaks of them with the same level of confidence as the topics he actually understands, it's up to the viewer/listener to be astute in catching the bullshit.
Yeah I'm probably being too harsh with that line. But his hypocrisy and constant over exaggeration is too much at times.
Could it be because Sky gives them a high level script that they need to follow?
Having thoughts live vs a podcast/on-demand video is probably different? You an be calm and composed in the latter but talking live when you see all this nonsense on the pitch you are more emotional?
There's no script where he goes into hysterical overdrive whilst commentating. I mean last season he was saying Bruno wanted to be subbed off in the 7-0 vs Liverpool when that was clearly made up nonsense. The guy makes his own script up as he goes along.
Just last week he was blaming Bruno for Antony lashing out at Duku. The guy's a typical melodramatic RedCaf user. Here it's palatable (just), on Sky when he's bleating every week it's insufferable.
Other commentators and pundits are able to make (relatively) level headed takes. Why can't he?
I think generally, football punditry and analysis is on a downwards trend.
Neville and Carragher were a breath of fresh air when they were really taking plays apart in the studio and providing insight that an average viewer wouldn't get 10 or so years ago, but they're levels away from that now.
No, working in that sector, it doesn't happen especially for people like that. He wields a lot of power himself. He and others would be told not to discuss certain legal issues (Greenwood etc.) but will not be told to build up something
you can clearly see the bias in this too. All British players ( Rashford, Mct, Sancho, Maguire) are doing their best but the likes of Bruno and Casemiro cannot do anything right. Just because he is not dramatic doesn't change what his thoughts are.
I agree, i was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.
He says Bruno is world class and our best player. Just that he doesn't think captaincy suits him.
What are you on about? He literally says Fernandes is our most talented player and would get in any United team in history
his point about him not fitting captain is totally valid
There definitely is a difference in language with this crop of players "they are not toxic", "not the type to down tools" etc etc when this set of players are no different and doing the same things as those in the season when Ole got sacked. There is a valid point that now that the light is being shone on the likes of Rashford, Sancho, Maguire, Mctominay there is less talk of throwing the manager under the bus etc when they are doing the exact same things.
That's true, I want him to be like the cheerleader Liverpool pundits and commentators on TV. Savage for example I love to listen to because he is very biased towards us. Problem is there are very few people like Savage who are so open in their bias.
We made 16 fouls in the game and Hannibal made 2. First he got booked, second he didn't even get a talking to from I could see. He made the same number of fouls as Anthony Martial and less than Mason Mount. I assume his reputation doesn't help him that it makes people nervous and then you had the like of Neville probably for the same reason going on about him the whole game when he was in fact pulling out of challenges like for the first goal.
Liverpool pundits have only gotten like that in the last few years, for a long time before that, they were consistently savaging Liverpool harder than other clubs too etc.. (except for maybe Phil Thompson who is both a wanker and an idiot). If Liverpool hit the level of mediocrity United have Carragher and co's tune would change, if United got back to the top so would Nevilles. Neville wouldn't be so harsh on United after the derby regardless of score, if he wasn't hurt because its so common for this team to roll over and have its belly tickled the last few years combined with multiple decent runs/false dawns.
So it’s not just United player’s that he seems to be wanting red cards for.
Oooohhhh.
He talks a lot of shit.
nailed it
Absolutely right to pull smart cnuts like that up
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Absolutely right to pull smart cnuts like that up
It's amazing how their entire fanbase is convinced that we basically ran the FA in the 90s and 00s. A minority of our fans think Liverpool get easy calls but City fans all seem to believe it about us.