Gay Marriage

Churches vary. In Catholic marriage, you normally make a donation as a courtesy, but you don't have to pay anything if you can't afford it. Marriage is one of the Sacraments, it's freely given. It's not like hiring a civil registrar to conduct a ceremony in an hotel (as we did, and it was quite expensive).

Priests in the Archdiocese of Liverpool earn a princely £9,000 a year. They all get the same, whether in a poor or a wealthy parish. It's not about the money.
I know the fees they wanted to charge us to rent the church to get married in... It was comparable with other venues (castles, stately homes etc)... It was not a voluntary donation - you pay several thousand pounds and you get the church from this time to that time - no different from the other rentals
 
Dude, I'm not religious at all. I couldn't care less whether two men want to bum each other or two women want to become members of the munch bunch. I say good luck to people and have plenty of gay friends.

I also know some very religious people that follow every word of the bible. One guy I know believed that there was no water on the earth until the great flood in Noah's Ark!! Crazy shit!

My point is, that if homosexuality is a big no no in the bible, gay marriages in a church will never be accepted by the most devout.

Lot's of stuff is a big no-no in the old testament but the church absolutely deems them fine nowadays. You quoted Leviticus, there are some absolute corkers in there that the modern church totally ignores.

My point is that you said "the church aren't going to pick and choose which parts of the bible to follow and not follow". They do that all the time.
 
Yes it's not like they pick and choose already...
I wonder how many churches won't marry people who eat bacon sandwiches (leviticus 11:14)
Or won't marry people with tattoos (leviticus 19:28)
In fact as women are banned from speaking in churches the whole marriage vow thing it's self seems strange (Corinthians 14:34)
And obviously they ban people wearing suits / wedding dresses made of more than one material (leviticus 19:9)
And they refuse to marry people offering seafood platters at the reception (leviticus 10:11)
Presumably they don't have to refuse to marry anybody who works in Sundays as they will have already executed them? (exodus 31: 14-15

As stated earlier mate I'm not religious at all and I don't know the scripture.

I'm not going to argue with you as you obviously no an awful lot more about this than me.
 
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Lot's of stuff is a big no-no in the old testament but the church absolutely deems them fine nowadays. You quoted Leviticus, there are some absolute corkers in there that the modern church totally ignores.

My point is that you said "the church aren't going to pick and choose which parts of the bible to follow and not follow". They do that all the time.

I'm out of my depth here mate (maybe should have paid attention in RE at school rather than flicking elastic bands):D
 
As stated earlier mate I'm not religious at all and I don't know the scripture.
I'm certainly no expert either... But there are glaring parts people pick and choose
Either the church moves forwards (hopefully) and starts treating people equally as most of modern society does... Or they listen to their nutjob fundamentalists and start chucking people off buildings for the sin of being gay like those other religious folk in Syria/iraq
 
Lot's of stuff is a big no-no in the old testament but the church absolutely deems them fine nowadays. You quoted Leviticus, there are some absolute corkers in there that the modern church totally ignores.

My point is that you said "the church aren't going to pick and choose which parts of the bible to follow and not follow". They do that all the time.
Oh duffer, Old Covenant in Old Testament, New Covenant in New Testament.
 
I'm certainly no expert either... But there are glaring parts people pick and choose
Either the church moves forwards (hopefully) and starts treating people equally as most of modern society does... Or they listen to their nutjob fundamentalists and start chucking people off buildings for the sin of being gay like those other religious folk in Syria/iraq

Totally agree mate. But I don't think that will happen for many decades yet.
 
Oh Penna, what does that mean?

Well, if we are talking about the dietary rules and commands set out in Leviticus, those were only binding on the Israelites, the Jews to whom they were given. This is what Jesus said about dietary restrictions:

"Hear me, all of you, and understand: there is nothing outside a man which by going into him can defile him; but the things which come out of a man are what defile him." And when he had entered the house, and left the people, his disciples asked him about the parable. And he said to them, "Then are you also without understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a man from outside cannot defile him, since it enters, not his heart but his stomach, and so passes on?" (Thus he declared all foods clean.) (Mark 7:14-19)
 
Well, if we are talking about the dietary rules and commands set out in Leviticus, those were only binding on the Israelites, the Jews to whom they were given. This is what Jesus said about dietary restrictions:

We (me and Garethw) were talking about passages from Old Testament being used as reasons the church would not marry two women (be they Jewish or otherwise) and the inconsistency in which passages are ignored.

Anyway, I'm sure neither of us want to get in to a debate about the Old Testament.
 
We (me and Garethw) were talking about passages from Old Testament being used as reasons the church would not marry two women (be they Jewish or otherwise) and the inconsistency in which passages are ignored.

Anyway, I'm sure neither of us want to get in to a debate about the Old Testament.
Not really. :D