General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%
  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%
  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%
  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%
  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%
  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%

  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
That's the Tories you're thinking of, pal.

Taxing people earning > £80K a year more isn't going to raise what they have 'costed' it's well known that if you just keep raising taxes it has a negative effect at some point in terms of the economy. Such as people will just move to another country, as I'm doing.
 








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Economics vs nationalism


Nationalism probably resonates more with the electorate for this election at least (along with the papers pushing it). Can't see anything other than a Conservative victory.
 
Taxing people earning > £80K a year more isn't going to raise what they have 'costed' it's well known that if you just keep raising taxes it has a negative effect at some point in terms of the economy. Such as people will just move to another country, as I'm doing.

That's very patriotic of you
 
:lol: I didn't even fecking vote on Brexit :lol:

You been advocating for Brexit. Doesn't change the context of the irony in the slightest.

Taxing people earning > £80K a year more isn't going to raise what they have 'costed' it's well known that if you just keep raising taxes it has a negative effect at some point in terms of the economy. Such as people will just move to another country, as I'm doing.

You're living because Corbyn will win and raise taxes?
 
Taxing people earning > £80K a year more isn't going to raise what they have 'costed' it's well known that if you just keep raising taxes it has a negative effect at some point in terms of the economy. Such as people will just move to another country, as I'm doing.

It might do at some point. It isn't very well evidenced. But certainly not adding ~£250-£1000 to the tax bill of someone on 80-150K
 
Taxing people earning > £80K a year more isn't going to raise what they have 'costed' it's well known that if you just keep raising taxes it has a negative effect at some point in terms of the economy. Such as people will just move to another country, as I'm doing.

You are so concerned about the impact on the economy of people moving away... that you think it's better to vote for the party pledging to reduce net migration to the tens of thousands. Makes sense!
 
Hard to think of a Labour leader in the past 30 years who wouldn't be absolutely miles ahead in the polls of this shambles.
 
It's a government who the headline 'losers' in their totally unfunded manifesto are the elderly and children. Yet the idea that Corbyn isn't doing brilliantly by being far behind, as opposed to very far behind, gets laughed at.

Don't know why this thread isn't just called "Shut up, Tory!" and all the Jezutits can mutually wank off together. Realistically we're two weeks away from a Tory landlside and it's still socially unacceptable here to suggest Corbyn might not be the messiah.

Quick, for balance someone post a Tweet from the Canary.co
 
I wanted to find out more about Corbyn's "Gandhi International Peace Award" and its credibility or otherwise. While researching it I came across a wealth of very interesting stuff. Among previous recipients were the founders of Media Lens. I guess I must have come across them before but never really looked in depth. It's a goldmine! The stuff on how the press treated our involvement in Libya is fecking mindblowing - and all backed up with good links. I recommend it highly.

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Then there's this:

 
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The polls are narrowing, but the problem for Corbyn is he's well behind on the issues like terrorism and Brexit.

These are the 2 main issues which people will be basing their votes on.
 
@Unmutual's guess of a 10-point win is looking a decent shout at the moment.
 
That's not good - negative momentum for Labour will kill any chance of a hung parliament.
On the one hand both results are in each others margin of error, so could just be normal statistical variation, on the other hand if you compare it to the result from a week ago (pre U-turn and terror attack), it's actually a gain of two.
 
I wanted to find out more about Corbyn's "Gandhi International Peace Award" and its credibility or otherwise. While researching it I came across a wealth of very interesting stuff. Among previous recipients were the founders of Media Lens. I guess I must have come across them before but never really looked in depth. It's a goldmine! The stuff on how the press treated our involvement in Libya is fecking mindblowing - and all backed up with good links. I recommend it highly.

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Then there's this:



This is a very interesting piece, imo...

http://www.medialens.org/index.php/alerts/alert-archive/2016/827-the-great-libya.html
 
Just watching Andrew Neil's Corbyn interview. Hard to know what to make of it really. I can see the IRA and trident stuff not going down well with some voters, but jeez, at least he isn't a flustered broken robot repeating 'strong economy' etc...
 
Taxing people earning > £80K a year more isn't going to raise what they have 'costed' it's well known that if you just keep raising taxes it has a negative effect at some point in terms of the economy. Such as people will just move to another country, as I'm doing.
Lowering taxes has a worse effect.

Where are you moving to?
 
The Tories have loads of shit policies, but they aren't proposing to privatise the NHS.
 
I've been very surprised by how much of a difference the Tory manifesto has made. I thought we were fare too jaded by politics, after an election in 2015 and a referendum the next year, to be paying attention to policy.

But, you know, I am just someone who watches Newsnight sometimes. Not someone paid to predict the national mood...
 
Hard to think of a Labour leader in the past 30 years who wouldn't be absolutely miles ahead in the polls of this shambles.

Careful now, there are a lot of Corbyn fanboys about. Their manifesto is full of idealistic tripe, how on earth are they going to come up with the money for some of the stuff they're proposing without putting the country in a huge amount of debt.
 
Careful now, there are a lot of Corbyn fanboys about. Their manifesto is full of idealistic tripe, how on earth are they going to come up with the money for some of the stuff they're proposing without putting the country in a huge amount of debt.
If only the manifesto was costed so you could see for yourself. Sorry, I mean 'magic money tree'.