montpelier
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Why?
I'll start with hardcore nasty party & stupid with it.
Why?
I also see that Esther McVey is going to get Osborne's seat in Tatton.
I'll start with hardcore nasty party & stupid with it.
It makes a mockery of the whole constituency link when it's basically a vehicle for parties to parachute in their most high profile names who were booted out previously.
It's pretty bad in Labour as well for this election albeit in a different way, due to the short notice of the election the safest seats that are up for reselection are getting divied up by the unions, Corbyn's lot and Watson. Andy Burnham was leaving Leigh with the understanding that a local councillor was a shoo-in replacement, but now there's a decent chance someone from Corbyn's office gets it.It makes a mockery of the whole constituency link when it's basically a vehicle for parties to parachute in their most high profile names who were booted out previously.
Exactly, their argument against any other voting system is essentially moot. It really frustrates me that we are going to be stuck with FPTP for what might be my entire lifetime.It makes a mockery of the whole constituency link when it's basically a vehicle for parties to parachute in their most high profile names who were booted out previously.
It makes a mockery of the whole constituency link when it's basically a vehicle for parties to parachute in their most high profile names who were booted out previously.
It's pretty bad in Labour as well for this election albeit in a different way, due to the short notice of the election the safest seats that are up for reselection are getting divied up by the unions, Corbyn's lot and Watson. Andy Burnham was leaving Leigh with the understanding that a local councillor was a shoo-in replacement, but now there's a decent chance someone from Corbyn's office gets it.
Think it's the NEC choosing the candidate this time.The local party still gets the final say I believe. Central office proposes three candidates and the local party chooses.
Same with Labour, the local party has to choose, but from among about a million candidates long listed by central office. Indeed, an interesting little piece of internal Labour politics is that in the 11 by-elections since Corbyn took over (including the aborted Gorton one) the Corbyn candidate has failed to be selected on every occasion, with a moderate candidate chosen instead.
Think it's the NEC choosing the candidate this time.
Amusing..This is kind of amusing. A bit of voting analysis suggests the Lib Dems will actually have a net loss of seats.
https://www.theguardian.com/science...nt-count-on-remain-votes-the-data-looks-bleak
Losing a third of your seats despite adding to your overall vote shareThis is kind of amusing. A bit of voting analysis suggests the Lib Dems will actually have a net loss of seats.
https://www.theguardian.com/science...nt-count-on-remain-votes-the-data-looks-bleak
It would almost be worth it to see what the Lib Dems give up this time for another failed referendum on electoral reform.
Indeed... and such an easy tune to mix / drop with theNiche reference of the year award goes to you. I had that on 12" when it came out.
Why are all the countries in the European UNION - UNITING against poor old England
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The sad thing about the Tories & NHS debacle is that the NHS budget is broadly in the same ball park as the Government Pensions scheme. Which of course, was 'triple locked'. And we have an ageing population, meaning that;
1) For every year that goes by, a greater percentage of people become pensioners.
2) For every year that goes by, the amount the government gives each pensioner, increases above inflation.
3) For every year that goes by, our ageing population puts further strain on the NHS.
Government pensions should never have been triple locked. Instead, the NHS should have.
I'll give the Tories their due, they may be cnuts but they're pretty loyal to the lead cnut when it comes to a GE.
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Is it? Do you consider socialism to be equatable with the far right?It's quite common for the far left to vote for the far right.
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That's what bullies do.
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That doesn't wash with hostages.Siege mentality, brilliant from May.
The sad thing about the Tories & NHS debacle is that the NHS budget is broadly in the same ball park as the Government Pensions scheme. Which of course, was 'triple locked'. And we have an ageing population, meaning that;
1) For every year that goes by, a greater percentage of people become pensioners.
2) For every year that goes by, the amount the government gives each pensioner, increases above inflation.
3) For every year that goes by, our ageing population puts further strain on the NHS.
Government pensions should never have been triple locked. Instead, they should have triple locked the NHS.
Edit - Sense make it make
I agree. What's disappointing is that now the Tories are reversing it all the other parties are stating they'll maintain it so as to appeal to that demographic. Everything that's happened in the last few years since I've become of voting age has been not about what's good for the country but what's good for the parties politically. I largely blame FPTP for exacerbating that, though in democracy people voting in their own selfish self-interest will always be a design flaw.
In Brighton we’re working together to oust the Tories. Corbyn and Farron take heed
Early days yet. No one has put forward a manifesto so far, therefore no one can even say what their policies are!Anyone else baffled by how little Brexit is being discussed with the election?
It's obviously being given plenty of airtime but it's not the 'brexit election' as I had expected. Likely largely because Labour don't know how to differentiate their position on it from the Tories, and Corbyn isn't comfortable discussing it, but I still find it odd. Maybe I'm just a bitter remoaner who can't get over losing...
Fair point.Early days yet. No one has put forward a manifesto so far, therefore no one can even say what their policies are!
Anyone else baffled by how little Brexit is being discussed with the election?
It's obviously being given plenty of airtime but it's not the 'brexit election' as I had expected. Likely largely because Labour don't know how to differentiate their position on it from the Tories, and Corbyn isn't comfortable discussing it, but I still find it odd. Maybe I'm just a bitter remoaner who can't get over losing...
Also a Snowflake.Anyone else baffled by how little Brexit is being discussed with the election?
It's obviously being given plenty of airtime but it's not the 'brexit election' as I had expected. Likely largely because Labour don't know how to differentiate their position on it from the Tories, and Corbyn isn't comfortable discussing it, but I still find it odd. Maybe I'm just a bitter remoaner who can't get over losing...