General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%

  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%

  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%

  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%

  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%

  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%
  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
He's having a better second half but it's not been the performance he'd have wanted going into this.

The questions have been weighed against him but at the same time, a bolder, less dignified leader would have replied more assertively in the first half. The IRA stuff wasn't relative to the policies of the manifesto directly whereas there was very little historical references in May's (huge decision switcher) interview.

Just hope the people can relate with a rational if evasive man rather than a blatant liar and decision flipper.
 
He'll do better in the QT one, that requires warmth which he has and May entirely doesn't.
 
I'm not talking about Andrew O'Neill .I'm saying the BBC are the Tories puppet
 
Not great, though I thought he came across better than May (probably just my bias). Don't think there was really any major damage there, so I'm not too concerned. Certainly not getting a swath of voters based from it though.
 
The IRA stuff is pretty divisive stuff in Northern Irish conversations regarding Corbyn (for obvious reasons). I've still yet to grasp how much impact it has with the English (given they generally don't even know the country exists).

I can't help but feel he would come across better if he just apologised for it and got rid of that eejit he wants to make chancellor.
 
saivet said:
Not great, though I thought he came across better than May (probably just my bias). Don't think there was really any major damage there, so I'm not too concerned. Certainly not getting a swath of voters based from it though.
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I agree, very shakey first half but he recovered slightly in the second, i feel he did better than May but i don't think either party came out looking good.
 
Rolandofgilead said:
I agree, very shakey first half but he recovered slightly in the second, i feel he did better than May but i don't think either party came out looking good.
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The nature of the quesions make it difficult to shine. It's all about the ammunition he has and with May most of the questions were more directly linked to recent matters.

Quite a lot of the questions Corbyn had was around the IRA and comments of other from several years ago. Not that none of it mattered, but I'm not sure how much people care about his comments made in the 90s. Without a clearer context, it becomes wishy washy and less damaging.

The more I think of it, May fecked up. The questions she got were based off her very recent actions or comments and she was a hell of a lot more evasive in questions. She should have at least varied her response to questions. No one like politicians not answering the question, but she should have done better at it if she wasn't going to give any clear responses.
 
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Just watching it now. Can't believe Neill just said Corbyn supported the IRA. What the actual feck. :mad:
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You must be the only person in the country that didn't see it coming then. The thing is that despite having years to practice his replies he came across as just plain shifty. He was at least partly right on the issue, but is incapable of getting that across.
 
712 said:
You must be the only person in the country that didn't see it coming then. The thing is that despite having years to practice his replies he came across as just plain shifty. He was at least partly right on the issue, but is incapable of getting that across.
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I expected harsh questions, but downright attacks is just ridiculous. I'm about 5 mins from the end now, and its purely a hit piece. Far worse than May recieved.
 
Interesting thing to look at, watch the interview with Neill and May and watch their reactions after the music starts playing and the mics are cut. Then watch the same segment with Neill and Corbyn. Polar opposites.
 
Anyway, as the election heats up, Scottish Labour are pursuing some rather...eh, unconventional approaches.





Whoever was responsible for the Ed Stone clearly fled north.
 
712 said:
You must be the only person in the country that didn't see it coming then. The thing is that despite having years to practice his replies he came across as just plain shifty. He was at least partly right on the issue, but is incapable of getting that across.
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Doesn't lessen the ridiculousness of the pointed assertion disguised as a question. I really dont think thats expected behaviour of the BBC either
 
Oddly the Guardian and political journalists on Twitter think he did well especially compared to May.
 
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Speaking at the G7 Summit in Sicily, Theresa May said: "Jeremy Corbyn has said that terror attacks in Britain are our own fault.

"And he's chosen to do that just a few days after one of the worst terrorist atrocities we have experienced in the United Kingdom."

She added: "There can never be an excuse for terrorism. There can never be an excuse for what happened in Manchester."

She said voters faced a choice "between me working strongly to protect the national interest and Jeremy Corbyn who, frankly, isn't up to the job".
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What. A. Cnut.
 
Cheesy said:
Anyway, as the election heats up, Scottish Labour are pursuing some rather...eh, unconventional approaches.





Whoever was responsible for the Ed Stone clearly fled north.
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Hulk gloves into ice sculpture is genuinely immense.
 
Ubik said:
Hulk gloves into ice sculpture is genuinely immense.
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It's the look at bafflement on the faces of Dugdale and Sarwar as to why in the flying feck they are doing this that makes it.
 
Smores said:
Doesn't lessen the ridiculousness of the pointed assertion disguised as a question. I really dont think thats expected behaviour of the BBC either
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I didn't say it does, I was commenting on Corbyn's responses. As you bring it up, the only way the BBC can be returned to it's pre-Cameron more neutral days is for Labour to win an election and introduce a fair BBC constitution, but I'm afraid it will take someone a bit cleverer than Corbyn to do that.

I didn't see O'Neill/May to compare, but I have to say that O'Neill has been a good interviewer for the BBC over the years, despite being Conservative by nature. Watch him on This Week and he has genuine respect for the such as Alan Johnson, so he's not all bad. He despises Diane Abbott of course, no idea why.
 
Not sure Corbyn came off worse than May did in hers but he really struggled with the NATO question in particular. Didn't think Neil nailed him on the 'foreign policy link to terrorism' thing as I expected him to. Corbyn had clearly rehearsed a grilling on that and it showed.
 
Minimalist said:
The IRA stuff is pretty divisive stuff in Northern Irish conversations regarding Corbyn (for obvious reasons). I've still yet to grasp how much impact it has with the English (given they generally don't even know the country exists).

I can't help but feel he would come across better if he just apologised for it and got rid of that eejit he wants to make chancellor.
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I really don't get it either. From the outside it seems like such an easy issue for Corbyn to deal with, especially given the relative lack of fecks England tends to give about Ireland anyway.
 
Minimalist said:
The IRA stuff is pretty divisive stuff in Northern Irish conversations regarding Corbyn (for obvious reasons). I've still yet to grasp how much impact it has with the English (given they generally don't even know the country exists).

I can't help but feel he would come across better if he just apologised for it and got rid of that eejit he wants to make chancellor.
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I really don't get it either. From the outside it seems like such an easy issue for Corbyn to deal with, especially given the relative lack of fecks England tends to give about Ireland anyway.
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Mcdonnell put a ton of work in to get Corbyn on the ballot for the first leadership race but essentially Mcdonnell is about one of two people(The other being Diane Abbott)in the Labour Party who actually like Corbyn as leader, so even if Corbyn wanted to get rid of Mcdonnell he can't because of Labour in fighting.


I think your pretty much spot on with the part in bold sadly, there was talk about Northern Ireland in this Corbyn than at anything during the eu referendum.
 
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