General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time

[Oscie]

Bear in mind though, she's exactly the kind of interview subject he hates. He'll ask questions, she'll repeat soundbites, and he'll get angrier and angrier. Should be very enjoyable to watch.

Yes he won't let her get away with it.

Other than Michael Foot's, it's hard to think of a worst received major party manifesto than hers.

 

[DenisIrwin]

Ah yes, please link me to more speculative blogs based on vast leaps of logic with no evidence.

It might seem that way if you don't bother clicking on any of the embedded links provided in that article.

 

[Simbo]

Really? I think since the second the campaign has been called he's been almost without flaw.

I went into the election deeply unsure who I would vote for and not convinced by Corbyn, but I think he's done a really good job. They've released a manifesto that appeals to voters, he's been enthusiastic and engaging, he's spoken well to the crowds, he's done well on TV, and they've absolutely hammered the Conservatives as a party for the rich and wealthy. I'm not convinced by Labour's position on Brexit, but they're been less amateur than the Lib Dems on this point.

The only real mistake Labour have made is continuing to allow Diane Abbott to go on TV.

I dunno, even forgetting his past. He's like a poor mans Farage/Trump in this campaign, saying any old crap he thinks he can get away with to the populist crowd. If he keeps just half his promises he'll bankrumpt the country.

 

[Damien]

Just shite? Or legit do you think?

Not going to happen.

 

[Jippy]

And the Tory's change of tack begins. Latest press release (fifth today).

10 Questions for Jeremy Corbyn on Brexit

Just 11 days after the General Election takes place, Jeremy Corbyn could be beginning negotiations with 27 EU states on the terms of our exit from the European Union.

It is therefore imperative he comes clean with the British people about the approach he will take in these crucial negotiations – as they will be central to everything over the next five years and beyond.

Questions for Jeremy Corbyn

1. Your Shadow Brexit Secretary said in April that you were going to tear up the negotiating objectives this Government has produced and ‘replace [them] with fresh negotiating priorities. How precisely will you rewrite our negotiating objectives in the 11 days between entering Government and starting negotiations?

2. Should an objective of Brexit be to reduce the number of people coming to Britain?

3. You say that you will immediately guarantee the rights of EU citizens living here on day one. Do you accept the EU’s negotiating position that they should continue to be protected by EU law rather than UK law once we have left - which would be enforced by the European Commission and European Court of Justice?

4. Your Mayor of London wants a London specific immigration policy once we have left the EU. Do you support the idea of regional immigration controls?

5. Your Shadow Brexit Secretary said in April that you want to ‘retain the benefits of the single market’. Are you willing to allow free movement of EU citizens in order to retain those benefits?

6. You said last November to Andrew Marr that preserving ‘justice issues through the European Court’ would be a red line for you in the Brexit negotiations. So would the European Court of Justice still have control over our laws once we leave the EU under your administration?

7. Your Shadow Brexit Secretary said in April that you want to leave membership of the customs union ‘on the table’. Does that mean you don’t want to strike new free trade deals in our own right?

8. Your manifesto says that ‘no deal is the worst possible deal for Britain’. Does that mean you will accept literally any deal the EU offers?

9. Will we definitely leave the EU if your MPs vote against the deal you come back with?

10. If you become Prime Minister, you will rely on SNP and Lib Dem support in a hung Parliament. Both of them want to stop Brexit. What concessions would you make to them?

Commenting, Chairman of the Conservative Party Patrick McLoughlin said:

“Eleven days after the polls close next week, Britain will be sitting down to tough negotiations with the EU 27 states. The election is a clear choice about who we want at the table negotiating on our behalf; strong and stable Theresa May or shambolic Jeremy Corbyn. Corbyn’s team can’t get their sums right, can’t answer basic question about controlling immigration and don’t have a plan for Brexit – they are too big a risk to take.”

ENDS

 

[Jippy]

What time is it? I'll be watching.

Andrew Neil's interview with Nuttall is 7.30pm on bbc1. Leaders debate is 8:30pm on C4.

 

[Ubik]

It might seem that way if you don't bother clicking on any of the embedded links provided in that article.

Which one justifies the headline "Theresa May's secretive plans to replace NHS in England with private UK healthcare system Kaiser Permanente", out of interest? Where's the link to this secret report that demonstrates they're planning on turning the UK system into an insurance-based one?

Or is it entirely based on photos of Hunt visiting it?

 

[Marcelinho87]

Just read that internal polls have leaked and while Labour vote share is up they are racking up votes in all the wrong places and are actuall DOWN 58 seats... Hope this is not the case.

 

[Drainy]

Are the Tories really that surprised that the polls tightened when their manifesto was a massive thumb in the eye for the two most important voting blocks? Women and the elderly

 

[Ubik]

Just read that internal polls have leaked and while Labour vote share is up they are racking up votes in all the wrong places and are actuall DOWN 58 seats... Hope this is not the case.

I find it believable, though sceptical of a figure as precise as that. Something similar happened in 2015, and polls subsamples in the west and east midlands look pretty dire still.

 

[DOTA]

Andrew Neil's interview with Nuttall is 7.30pm on bbc1. Leaders debate is 8:30pm on C4.

What do we have left, after tonight, then? Is it just the QT special?

 

[Jippy]

What do we have left, after tonight, then? Is it just the QT special?

I think Neil and Farron, then Amber bloody Rudd standing in for May.

 

[Kentonio]

And the Tory's change of tack begins. Latest press release (fifth today).

10 Questions for Jeremy Corbyn on Brexit

Just 11 days after the General Election takes place, Jeremy Corbyn could be beginning negotiations with 27 EU states on the terms of our exit from the European Union.

It is therefore imperative he comes clean with the British people about the approach he will take in these crucial negotiations – as they will be central to everything over the next five years and beyond.

Questions for Jeremy Corbyn

1. Your Shadow Brexit Secretary said in April that you were going to tear up the negotiating objectives this Government has produced and ‘replace [them] with fresh negotiating priorities. How precisely will you rewrite our negotiating objectives in the 11 days between entering Government and starting negotiations?

2. Should an objective of Brexit be to reduce the number of people coming to Britain?

3. You say that you will immediately guarantee the rights of EU citizens living here on day one. Do you accept the EU’s negotiating position that they should continue to be protected by EU law rather than UK law once we have left - which would be enforced by the European Commission and European Court of Justice?

4. Your Mayor of London wants a London specific immigration policy once we have left the EU. Do you support the idea of regional immigration controls?

5. Your Shadow Brexit Secretary said in April that you want to ‘retain the benefits of the single market’. Are you willing to allow free movement of EU citizens in order to retain those benefits?

6. You said last November to Andrew Marr that preserving ‘justice issues through the European Court’ would be a red line for you in the Brexit negotiations. So would the European Court of Justice still have control over our laws once we leave the EU under your administration?

7. Your Shadow Brexit Secretary said in April that you want to leave membership of the customs union ‘on the table’. Does that mean you don’t want to strike new free trade deals in our own right?

8. Your manifesto says that ‘no deal is the worst possible deal for Britain’. Does that mean you will accept literally any deal the EU offers?

9. Will we definitely leave the EU if your MPs vote against the deal you come back with?

10. If you become Prime Minister, you will rely on SNP and Lib Dem support in a hung Parliament. Both of them want to stop Brexit. What concessions would you make to them?

Commenting, Chairman of the Conservative Party Patrick McLoughlin said:

“Eleven days after the polls close next week, Britain will be sitting down to tough negotiations with the EU 27 states. The election is a clear choice about who we want at the table negotiating on our behalf; strong and stable Theresa May or shambolic Jeremy Corbyn. Corbyn’s team can’t get their sums right, can’t answer basic question about controlling immigration and don’t have a plan for Brexit – they are too big a risk to take.”

ENDS

I'd kill for the chance to write the official Labour response. After the Tories have spent a year insisting they can't even tell their own MPs their negotiating strategy, this is an enormous open goal. *

*which I fully expect Labour to miss..

 

[Oscie]

Farron looks like someone who really wants to talk to you about how much better music sounds on vinyl.

 

[Nogbadthebad]

I dunno, even forgetting his past. He's like a poor mans Farage/Trump in this campaign, saying any old crap he thinks he can get away with to the populist crowd. If he keeps just half his promises he'll bankrumpt the country.

He is saying the exact same stuff he has been saying for 35 years, he is the exact opposite of a populist. In fact, Corbyns speech about foreign policy is the exact same reasoning as the one he gave at the head of the million march against Iraq 20 years ago, where he predicted increased terrorism as a result of that war, and said precisly the same about Libya. 2 years later a libyan trained terroist shot and killed 30+ people on a Tunisian beach. While cameron did his best to look 'concerned'.

You can criticize him for many things, but Corbyn is most surely a conviction politician.

 

[Jippy]

I'd kill for the chance to write the official Labour response. After the Tories have spent a year insisting they can't even tell their own MPs their negotiating strategy, this is an enormous open goal. *

*which I fully expect Labour to miss..

Number 8 makes no sense. If there's no deal we fall back on the WTO- why would Corbyn, or anyone else for that matter, accept a worse deal

 

[DenisIrwin]

Which one justifies the headline "Theresa May's secretive plans to replace NHS in England with private UK healthcare system Kaiser Permanente", out of interest? Where's the link to this secret report that demonstrates they're planning on turning the UK system into an insurance-based one?

Or is it entirely based on photos of Hunt visiting it?

I'm not the author of that article. I think it does provide good food for thought. It might not join up all the dots but there are certainly things to think about. I have had questions in my mind about why on earth this government has behaved as it has with regard to the NHS, and this is the first time I have begun to look at KP's model. It kinda rings true, rather than lays it all out. It would certainly be remiss of a government to expose its secret plans completely open to scrutiny, wouldn't it?

 

[Ady87]

I dunno, even forgetting his past. He's like a poor mans Farage/Trump in this campaign, saying any old crap he thinks he can get away with to the populist crowd. If he keeps just half his promises he'll bankrumpt the country.

Without question, one of the strangest comments I've ever witnessed on this website.

 

[Nogbadthebad]

Number 8 makes no sense. If there's no deal we fall back on the WTO- why would Corbyn, or anyone else for that matter, accept a worse deal

The thing is WTO rules IS the worst deal possible.

Seriously.

There is only ONE country in the entire world that relies solely on WTO tariff trade agreements. That country is North Korea.

 

[Simbo]

Without question, one of the strangest comments I've ever witnessed on this website.

I don't mean with regards to policies, obviously.

 

[RedSky]

Andrew Neil's interview with Nuttall is 7.30pm on bbc1. Leaders debate is 8:30pm on C4.

Cheers Jippy.

 

[Ubik]

Corbyn's leadership relaunch earlier this year was briefed explicitly as going down the more populist route.

Number 8 makes no sense. If there's no deal we fall back on the WTO- why would Corbyn, or anyone else for that matter, accept a worse deal

All they want really is to get Brexit back to the top of the issue pile, the "no deal is better than a bad deal" thing plays well for them.

 

[711]

May's performance tonight will attract a lot of interest. Until a couple of weeks ago I had her down as a reasonably capable if unspectacular politician, but she's been awful. If she is spectacularly bad, and I think there's a good chance she will be, I just can't see what the Tories are going to do, tactically speaking. It's her that's shifting the polls, I suspect, along with the dementia tax debacle.

 

[Jippy]

The thing is WTO rules IS the worst deal possible.

Seriously.

There is only ONE country in the entire world that relies solely on WTO tariff trade agreements. That country is North Korea.

Pretty sure NK has a deal with China, but yep, it's a rather low benchmark.

 

[SteveJ]

Andrew Neil's interview with Nuttall is 7.30pm on bbc1.

This'll be more awkward than the time he was interviewed by Frost after Watergate.

 

[Jippy]

This'll be more awkward than the time he was interviewed by Frost after Watergate.

This could be the highlight of this whole sorry election campaign.
Andrew Neil grilling Farron on gay sex is going to be rather surreal though.

 

[Jippy]

Corbyn's leadership relaunch earlier this year was briefed explicitly as going down the more populist route.


All they want really is to get Brexit back to the top of the issue pile, the "no deal is better than a bad deal" thing plays well for them.

Seriously though, trust in her is so low now, you wouldn't be surprised if she fecks that line of campaigning up too.

 

[Ubik]

Seriously though, trust in her is so low now, you wouldn't be surprised if she fecks that line of campaigning up too.

It's true given how bad the rest of their campaign's been. But I think if they keep it about Brexit, defence & security and the economy until the 8th they'll be pretty happy, Labour need to get it back to the NHS and social care.

 

[DenisIrwin]

I'm not the author of that article. I think it does provide good food for thought. It might not join up all the dots but there are certainly things to think about. I have had questions in my mind about why on earth this government has behaved as it has with regard to the NHS, and this is the first time I have begun to look at KP's model. It kinda rings true, rather than lays it all out. It would certainly be remiss of a government to expose its secret plans completely open to scrutiny, wouldn't it?

This provides even more food for thought regarding Tory plans to privatise the NHS. It becomes increasingly clear that this is their intention.

 

[SteveJ]

Interview 1 excerpt:
Neil: "Where's yer balaclava, ya paddy-shagging bastid?"

Interview 2 excerpt:
Neil: "That's a smashing blouse you have on."

 

[Mozza]

It's true given how bad the rest of their campaign's been. But I think if they keep it about Brexit, defence & security and the economy until the 8th they'll be pretty happy, Labour need to get it back to the NHS and social care.

They need to keep focus on domestic issues but they should go negative on security, she's been home secretary for 6 of the last 7 years and she's failed to protect this country

 

[711]

It's true given how bad the rest of their campaign's been. But I think if they keep it about Brexit, defence & security and the economy until the 8th they'll be pretty happy, Labour need to get it back to the NHS and social care.

If I were a Labour strategist I would see May as the weak spot and attack. Weak and wobbly, u-turns, failed to reduce immigration, weak and wobbly, reduced police numbers despite the terrorist threat, u-turns, weak and wobbly, etc. Brief every spokesperson every day to attack her personally.

 

[QuackQuack]

May's performance tonight will attract a lot of interest. Until a couple of weeks ago I had her down as a reasonably capable if unspectacular politician, but she's been awful. If she is spectacularly bad, and I think there's a good chance she will be, I just can't see what the Tories are going to do, tactically speaking. It's her that's shifting the polls, I suspect, along with the dementia tax debacle.

Is she actually turning up tonight or will she send someone to represent?

 

[Drifter]

The fact that the Tories have had to reboot won't do themselves any favours amongst the public

 

[Ubik]

They need to keep focus on domestic issues but they should go negative on security, she's been home secretary for 6 of the last 7 years and she's failed to protect this country

I think being a clear cut as that would backfire, personally. If it's kept to police numbers it can be a winner, but if it moves on to anti-terror legislation and stuff like the snooper's charter, it's bad.

If I were a Labour strategist I would see May as the weak spot and attack. Weak and wobbly, u-turns, failed to reduce immigration, weak and wobbly, reduced police numbers despite the terrorist threat, u-turns, weak and wobbly, etc. Brief every spokesperson every day to attack her personally.

Yeah, bit like a keeper that's just let in a couple of howlers after being 4-0 up, just keep putting it in the box!

 

[RedSky]

This provides even more food for thought regarding Tory plans to privatise the NHS. It becomes increasingly clear that this is their intention.

That needs retweeting on a mass scale.

 

[711]

Is she actually turning up tonight or will she send someone to represent?

She's billed to. It's if she fecks up again then it gets interesting. Do they hide her away or just carry on and pray? I'm remembering Brown's 'bigoted woman' moment, it might only take one cock-up to swing it.

 

[Red Dreams]

any streams in the US?

EDIT:

please don't respond with the obvious lads?

 

[Ubik]

Good fecking god

 

[DOTA]

any streams in the US?

EDIT:

please don't respond with the obvious lads?

If you're allowed to watch this in the US, it should have it on.