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How do you intend to vote in the 2017 General Election if eligible?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 80 14.5%

  • Labour

    Votes: 322 58.4%

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 57 10.3%

  • Green

    Votes: 20 3.6%

  • SNP

    Votes: 13 2.4%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 29 5.3%

  • Independent

    Votes: 3 0.5%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 2 0.4%

  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 11 2.0%

  • Other (UUP, DUP, BNP, and anyone else I have forgotten)

    Votes: 14 2.5%
  • Total voters
    551
  • Poll closed .
Silva said:
That's obviously not what's going to happen though. You're extrapolating wildly from what's in the manifesto.
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I would certainly hope so, as it doesn't sound very well thought out currently.


Garethw said:
It's a collection of things really. Waste management, street lighting and maintenance, street cleaning, planning application department, maintenance of libraries and anything else the council wants to waste money on :D

It is bad enough as it is, but if it triples under labour then :(
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Green bin collection has been reduced to fortnightly hereabouts, and the less said about their notions of planning the better.

They should erect a larger version of this statue in Brussels, perfect symbology for local government and their use of money:

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Nick 0208 Ldn said:
I would certainly hope so, as it doesn't sound very well thought out currently.




Green bin collection has been reduced to fortnightly hereabouts, and the less said about their notions of planning the better.

They should erect a larger version of this statue in Brussels, perfect symbology for local government their use of money:

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:lol: Perfect!
 
Leading story on ITV News is Corbyn not being able to cite numbers this morning ffs :rolleyes:

Not only that they've edited her speech this morning which i think happened prior to be about Corbyn being unprepared.
 


I still don't really believe this (it's the hope that kills you), but lol.
 
This would be...something.



Genuinely not sure what government you could get out of that. Tory with LD and DUP confidence and supply possibly most realistic, and it would be seriously tight.
 
Ubik said:
This would be...something.



Genuinely not sure what government you could get out of that. Tory with LD and DUP confidence and supply possibly most realistic, and it would be seriously tight.
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Given Brexit I can't see how any Tory/LD arrangement can work
 
I'm more interested in a Labour/SNP coalition. I think Corbyn and Sturgeon would make for an interesting double act.
 
Untied said:


I still don't really believe this (it's the hope that kills you), but lol.
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Is that the SNP losing six seats and them all going to Labour? A Lib Dem gain of 2. as well by the looks of it.

Be interesting to know where YouGov expects the Tories to lose 20 constituencies...
 
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If you had those numbers, Labour+SNP+LD+Plaid+Green would get you 321. Depending on the NI numbers, with the SDLP you might be able to crack 324 for a majority when taking the speaker and Sinn Fein into consideration. But it would be by like one or two.
 
Ubik said:
If you had those numbers, Labour+SNP+LD+Plaid+Green would get you 321. Depending on the NI numbers, with the SDLP you might be able to crack 324 for a majority when taking the speaker and Sinn Fein into consideration. But it would be by like one or two.
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Sinn Fein taking their seats to deny the Tories of a majority, and thus siding with a Labour politician who's been accused of associating with the IRA, would be the most popcorn-inducing political incident in a long, long time.:lol:
 
Cheesy said:
Sinn Fein taking their seats to deny the Tories of a majority, and thus siding with a Labour politician who's been accused of associating with the IRA, would be the most popcorn-inducing political incident in a long, long time.:lol:
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Forget nuclear or fracking, we'd be able to power the nation for the next decade just on boiled Tory piss :lol:
 
Cheesy said:
Sinn Fein taking their seats to deny the Tories of a majority, and thus siding with a Labour politician who's been accused of associating with the IRA, would be the most popcorn-inducing political incident in a long, long time.:lol:
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Oh god :lol:

Genuinely think we'd get another election within a few months if that was the seat count, reckon the Tories would axe May and install someone less weird.
 
Despite the disgraceful media coverage, I'd laugh my backside off if the Tories don't get a majority. Talk about an own goal, Liverpool style.
 
Ubik said:
If you had those numbers, Labour+SNP+LD+Plaid+Green would get you 321. Depending on the NI numbers, with the SDLP you might be able to crack 324 for a majority when taking the speaker and Sinn Fein into consideration. But it would be by like one or two.
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Coalition of Chaos

2017

The Communist Party - Scottish Nazis

Liberal Donkeys - Eat Your Greens

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Ubik said:
Oh god :lol:

Genuinely think we'd get another election within a few months if that was the seat count, reckon the Tories would axe May and install someone less weird.
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Yep, after May a normal, reasonable person like Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees-Mogg or Michael Gove would probably do the trick.

It'd still be a disaster, though. Another election, during Article 50, would start to make the whole thing seem like a completely shambolic process.
 
Dobba said:
Forget nuclear or fracking, we'd be able to power the nation for the next decade just on boiled Tory piss :lol:
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During his first speech as PM, Corbyn accidentally refers to McDonnell as one of the Sinn Fein MP's.:lol:
 
Cheesy said:
Yep, after May a normal, reasonable person like Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees-Mogg or Michael Gove would probably do the trick.

It'd still be a disaster, though. Another election, during Article 50, would start to make the whole thing seem like a completely shambolic process.
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Yeah very decent chance the Tories would get punished again and Corb would rule. Never thought I'd be considering that even a couple of weeks ago!
Dobba said:
Skeletor would be a coup after he's starred in those MoneySupermarket adverts recently.
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He does have more of a human touch, and would be a tough negotiator for Brexit.
 
Ubik said:
Yeah very decent chance the Tories would get punished again and Corb would rule. Never thought I'd be considering that even a couple of weeks ago!
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It'd genuinely be fascinating to see what'd happen on a second vote. In some respects the Tories might benefit because any coalition would seem almost absurd - the 'coalition of chaos' comment would almost prove semi-correct, although it'd be dismantled before causing any actual chaos.

Still though, Corbyn would have all the momentum going into any second vote, would already presumably be PM, and the Tories would be in disarray - they're good at uniting in times of strife but a leadership contest then an election right away would prove difficult for them.

But I also think there'd be a shockingly low turnout, and naturally the Tories would benefit from that.
 
Ubik said:
If you had those numbers, Labour+SNP+LD+Plaid+Green would get you 321. Depending on the NI numbers, with the SDLP you might be able to crack 324 for a majority when taking the speaker and Sinn Fein into consideration. But it would be by like one or two.
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A coalition such as that would either lead to a riot or a sharp rise in English nationalism (possibly both). It'll be off with May's head for sure, and a vengeful Tory Party would be returned within one term aided by the state of the economy. With luck, we could start living again come 2027.
 
Ubik said:
Oh god :lol:

Genuinely think we'd get another election within a few months if that was the seat count, reckon the Tories would axe May and install someone less weird.
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Sure, they could go with someone even less comfortable in their skin like Gove, or they could send out Boris Johnson and hope no one notices he's an oaf.
 
Cheesy said:
It'd genuinely be fascinating to see what'd happen on a second vote. In some respects the Tories might benefit because any coalition would seem almost absurd - the 'coalition of chaos' comment would almost prove semi-correct, although it'd be dismantled before causing any actual chaos.

Still though, Corbyn would have all the momentum going into any second vote, would already presumably be PM, and the Tories would be in disarray - they're good at uniting in times of strife but a leadership contest then an election right away would prove difficult for them.

But I also think there'd be a shockingly low turnout, and naturally the Tories would benefit from that.
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PLAN - enact PR and announce a second election to be run on it :lol:
 
I realised having only recently been arsed about politics, what does it mean then if the Tories are short of a majority?

I mean, they're gonna win annoyingly but what does that mean exactly?
 
Nick 0208 Ldn said:
A coalition such as that would either lead to a riot or a sharp rise in English nationalism (possibly both). It'll be off with May's head for sure, and a vengeful Tory Party would be returned within one term aided by the state of the economy. With luck, we could start living again come 2027.
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To be fair I don't think anyone would suspect such a coalition to last more than ten minutes: the SNP would demand a referendum, Sinn Fein would demand one, the Lib Dems would expect a much more centrist economic policy than Corbyn is comfortable with, and Plaid would probably want something nice and cuddly for Wales. But it'd be funny to see it happen even symbolically, and would certainly result in another election which would be incredibly damaging for the Tories in regards to their Brexit plans.
 
matherto said:
I realised having only recently been arsed about politics, what does it mean then if the Tories are short of a majority?

I mean, they're gonna win annoyingly but what does that mean exactly?
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Other parties could try to work together and form a government - would be tenuous and unlikely to work, though.
 
Ubik said:
PLAN - enact PR and announce a second election to be run on it :lol:
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fecking hell, could you imagine if they actually got that through?:lol:

I'm way more entertained by the prospect of all this than I reasonably should be. If it all goes tits up we've got a few months more of free movement right enough...might just move while I can...
 
Not sure if this has been covered in this thread but Corbyn might also be appearing tomorrow on the leaders debate, again exposing Her Royal Strong and Stable Highness.
 
Got 3/4 through last night's "Q&As". Has to be said that Jeremy is a really strong campaigner. I've accepted that I'm not where he is on the Labour Party spectrum but he's done a brilliant job through the election, and he continued that last night. He was warm, confident and looked at ease in the face of a dreadful showing from Paxman. If it's a close election it will be in large part because he's won over so many people who had been caught up in the propaganda of the last two years. Well done to him.

May... I'm sure it's all been said really. She's just fecking dreadful. Looked unconfident and uncomfortable during the audience questions, and I can't believe she'll have won over any voters last night. But surely this was the danger all along... a campaign focused on May's strength of personality that wouldn't trust her with any unvetted public access. This was a bubble that was always going to burst. Dreadful campaign.
 
Rightnr said:
Not sure if this has been covered in this thread but Corbyn might also be appearing tomorrow on the leaders debate, again exposing Her Royal Strong and Stable Highness.
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He should do so now - with these figures he can turn up, and try to highlight May's weakness for not turning up. The other parties will largely gang up on Rudd as well, so has some potential to go well.
 
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