Fixed.Yeah...maybe May's way of doing it is just a bit weird, or something? I dunno, she just seems so awkward while doing anything...and as I type, she literally walks off stage the second she's finished talking.
General Election 2017 | Cabinet reshuffle: Hunt re-appointed Health Secretary for record third time
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
He also made a load of vague bollocks promises about how he was the only one who could fix things without ever saying how.
Coverage in the papers might be a bit different too.
People die in hospitals. Good care does not cost £900 a week. Good care is given all throughout the NHS, even in spite of the austerity measures that have stretched the service.
Everybody has a story. There's always going to be negative aspects to given care. Somebody, usually a relative, will always argue that more could have been done. However, you repeatedly suggest that the NHS is some gutless, almost unprofessional and dangerous service that lags behind the rest of Europe. That simply isn't true. It's already (quite rightly) been pointed out to you that our emergency care is up there with the best in the world. Or does you bias (or anger, perhaps) deny that?
Our hospitals are full of skilled, talented people that work their fingers to the bone. That there are issues is not the through the fault of they or the care they provide.
Best of all, you think the privatisation will solve it? These wonderful, abhorrently expensive, private health services feast on people like you. They fecking love you. As if all us idiots who may or may not already be struggling to buy food should be jampacked into some healthcare scheme in which (you bet) we need to pay for. That'll solve it...
Yep, spot on, nhs lags way behind. Why do you think that is? I have given you the answer many times but want to hear your own
Mate, sorry about your mum and your dad.
But honestly your individual sad stories are not going to change the fact that the NHS is a fantastic service.
Nor are you the only person with a sad story.
Nor are there no sad stories in private healthcare, or other healthcare solutions throughout the world.
We're not trying to mourn with you, you need to move on at some point.
Far as I can see the Liberals seem to be the most honest on the NHS. They're not saying it needs more money but you won't have to pay for it, someone else will, not saying we can sort it with yet another reorganisation, they're just honestly saying it needs more money and let's put up income tax to pay for it.
Because resources are wasted and the government have been squeezing the service of appropriate funding for the best part of a decade.
Specialist cancer care clearly isn't where it needs to be, however, emergency care is great. The former needs more funding, which one of the biggest economies in the world can rectify.
Some of you have been properly duped. Tory plan = under-fund the NHS to make people think it is failing and needs privatization. It's been blatantly obvious this is their plan for years,
Is the term "welfarism" used much in Tory speeches ? Because my impression is that their objective is to diminish the welfare state as much as possible.
Both.
He's won me over a lot with the campaign, which has been run and managed excellently, mainly through the strength of character of Jeremy being compared against May, and the media's prior portrayal of him. The manifesto has also clearly been a huge success, both providing a clear differentiation between the two main parties, and largely setting the agenda of the campaign. For the first campaign since 2005(? earlier?) it's been Labour driving the discussion points of the election. The party also appears to be doing well in winning over Green and Lib Dem voters it previously lost. All of these points are also things the Corbyn leadership campaign promised, so you have to say that he's achieving a great deal of what he promised to. I definitely underestimated him this election.
I'm also 90% sure I'm still voting Lib Dem. Even if it hasn't quite been the promised Brexit election, Brexit is the issue of the day. He totally failed with that campaign, and if he gained power, I've little confidence in his ability to successfully manage it. In terms of this election, it seems clear that Labour's strategy of agreeing to mostly follow May's Brexit line has worked, and largely negated it as an election issue. But I only see economic disaster from a Labour government agreeing to Brexit at the same time as implementing an anti-businsss program and significantly raising corporation taxes (I realise, only to 2010's level). I don't want a race to the bottom but I don't want us to leave the single market and disincentive UK investment at the same time. I'm also nervous about the prospect of anti-capitalist McDonnell and Corbyn being tasked with negotiating our replacement trade agreement with the largest trading block in the world, though the competency of May's team doesn't ease my worries here.
Locally, my decision is helped by the awful Kate Hoey being our current MP, and the Lib Dems seemingly making it one of their main target seats. Ignoring anything else, she deserves the boot for pursuing a Brexit vote in the constituency with the highest remain vote in the country. UKIP aren't standing here so as to help her chances ffs. I'd love my vote to contribute to throwing her out of parliament. That said, Labour seem as strong as ever in London and I'm sure they'll hold onto the seat. Bookies put the odds at 1/5. In that case, hopefully my vote contributes to the cause of the next non-Corbyn leadership candidate.
Sorry for the essay, you asked.
Yep. Under fund, then privitize in order to "save" a failing service that's failing solely due to under investment. Straight from the neoliberal playbook.
Breaking News - UKIP leader attacks Corbyn.
UKIP leader Paul Nuttal has launched a staggering attack on the Labour leader, calling him a disgracefully traitor and friends of
Amenhotep I. The UKIP leader is quoted as saying - ''I was there at said mud hunt in the summer of 287BC, when the tree hugger lefty traitor denounce his support for the yet unfounded British monarchy, I was so appalled and distressed at the time that my mate Demetrius I of Macedon or old Dewey as the lads call him had to escort me away. The British people will not vote for man who I have personally witness called Amenhotep I a friend, gargle gargle immigration immigration gargle gargle ''
More to follow soon..............
They've been privatizing it step by step at the same time, don't forget, the Naylor Report is going to be one giant leap for torykind to get it where they want it to be.
Transcript of a May interview:
It's worth noting that, despite that going viral, her answers were actually much longer than was put down in text (watch the video). Still basically contentless, but they weren't that clipped.
Both.
He's won me over a lot with the campaign, which has been run and managed excellently, mainly through the strength of character of Jeremy being compared against May, and the media's prior portrayal of him. The manifesto has also clearly been a huge success, both providing a clear differentiation between the two main parties, and largely setting the agenda of the campaign. For the first campaign since 2005(? earlier?) it's been Labour driving the discussion points of the election. The party also appears to be doing well in winning over Green and Lib Dem voters it previously lost. All of these points are also things the Corbyn leadership campaign promised, so you have to say that he's achieving a great deal of what he promised to. I definitely underestimated him this election.
I'm also 90% sure I'm still voting Lib Dem. Even if it hasn't quite been the promised Brexit election, Brexit is the issue of the day. He totally failed with that campaign, and if he gained power, I've little confidence in his ability to successfully manage it. In terms of this election, it seems clear that Labour's strategy of agreeing to mostly follow May's Brexit line has worked, and largely negated it as an election issue. But I only see economic disaster from a Labour government agreeing to Brexit at the same time as implementing an anti-businsss program and significantly raising corporation taxes (I realise, only to 2010's level). I don't want a race to the bottom but I don't want us to leave the single market and disincentive UK investment at the same time. I'm also nervous about the prospect of anti-capitalist McDonnell and Corbyn being tasked with negotiating our replacement trade agreement with the largest trading block in the world, though the competency of May's team doesn't ease my worries here.
Locally, my decision is helped by the awful Kate Hoey being our current MP, and the Lib Dems seemingly making it one of their main target seats. Ignoring anything else, she deserves the boot for pursuing a Brexit vote in the constituency with the highest remain vote in the country. UKIP aren't standing here so as to help her chances ffs. I'd love my vote to contribute to throwing her out of parliament. That said, Labour seem as strong as ever in London and I'm sure they'll hold onto the seat. Bookies put the odds at 1/5. In that case, hopefully my vote contributes to the cause of the next non-Corbyn leadership candidate.
Sorry for the essay, you asked.
Thanks for the response! I do find it encouraging that people are coming around to him, now they've finally had a chance to see him in action without the press' overwhelming spin on everything (despite there best efforts now).
For 2 years his characters basically been assassinated, and I think now that people can finally see the substance behind it they have warmed to him to a degree.
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Yeah the video isn't as bad as this 'transcript' makes it look. She gave no answers beyond what's in the 'transcript' but managed to use more words in doing so. I think the journalists are becoming properly fed up with her though, her inability to interact with them makes them obsolete.
The satisfaction of May having made a greater miscalculation than lunk Cameron did would be all I need.
*Oh alright, I'll have some money too...
According to the Telegraph she's now saying that Corbyn isn't up to the job.
This is getting quite funny now.
This is getting quite funny now.
He's not strong and stable enough to get Britain the best deal for Brexit. Only under the strong and stable leadership of Theresa May can Britain get the best deal from Brexit, don't you know?
Now what we need is this enthusiasm to turn into actual votes.
If I had a question I'd ask 'Mrs May, you used to think that the Tories were the nasty party, so why were you happy to be in it?'.
Always remember, very rarely to polls over-estimate the Tory percentage share. In fact it is consistently under-estimated.
I have moved on, just telling you my take on nhs vs private care. No amount of bigging up the nhs will change my mind, uk was 30th on the list of global healthcare I was looking at the other day, the ones above uk had some form of privatization, so do I think its the way to go? Yes, yes it is.
It mirrors mistakes by the Dems in the US presidential race in a way. It'd be nice if throwing yourself behind a flawed leader had a similar effect.
Plaudits to Corbyn for growing into the role under immense pressure from his own party.
Most of them over on what is supposed to her side - (the 'One Nation' mob) aren't really for rocking the boat. I once read that some find their way in because it is their 'natural home' in the (political) scheme of things within the circles that they move in.
The extreme elements the other way are the UKIP fruitcakes and alike. Tend to be a lot more bolshy.
As successor to David 'let's have a referendum, it'll be fine' Cameron, there were (theoretically from the lefty view) much worse choices that could have gotten made than Theresa.
She's actually so bad that even with a half decent win they can't be letting her do the next Election. I'd be betting on her getting the axe sooner rather than later, atm.
Mate. Don't apologise for speaking your mind.Both.
He's won me over a lot with the campaign, which has been run and managed excellently, mainly through the strength of character of Jeremy being compared against May, and the media's prior portrayal of him. The manifesto has also clearly been a huge success, both providing a clear differentiation between the two main parties, and largely setting the agenda of the campaign. For the first campaign since 2005(? earlier?) it's been Labour driving the discussion points of the election. The party also appears to be doing well in winning over Green and Lib Dem voters it previously lost. All of these points are also things the Corbyn leadership campaign promised, so you have to say that he's achieving a great deal of what he promised to. I definitely underestimated him this election.
I'm also 90% sure I'm still voting Lib Dem. Even if it hasn't quite been the promised Brexit election, Brexit is the issue of the day. He totally failed with that campaign, and if he gained power, I've little confidence in his ability to successfully manage it. In terms of this election, it seems clear that Labour's strategy of agreeing to mostly follow May's Brexit line has worked, and largely negated it as an election issue. But I only see economic disaster from a Labour government agreeing to Brexit at the same time as implementing an anti-businsss program and significantly raising corporation taxes (I realise, only to 2010's level). I don't want a race to the bottom but I don't want us to leave the single market and disincentive UK investment at the same time. I'm also nervous about the prospect of anti-capitalist McDonnell and Corbyn being tasked with negotiating our replacement trade agreement with the largest trading block in the world, though the competency of May's team doesn't ease my worries here.
Locally, my decision is helped by the awful Kate Hoey being our current MP, and the Lib Dems seemingly making it one of their main target seats. Ignoring anything else, she deserves the boot for pursuing a Brexit vote in the constituency with the highest remain vote in the country. UKIP aren't standing here so as to help her chances ffs. I'd love my vote to contribute to throwing her out of parliament. That said, Labour seem as strong as ever in London and I'm sure they'll hold onto the seat. Bookies put the odds at 1/5. In that case, hopefully my vote contributes to the cause of the next non-Corbyn leadership candidate.
Sorry for the essay, you asked.
You might be on to something there, in that Cameron and co went for the referendum in the full knowledge that they'd win handsomely. Oops.
Honestly thought this was a troll on my timeline.
Is that where the ivory trader Tory candidate's running?
Ah feck off. Yougov have jumped the fecking shark with this shite.
Not a clue, but I initially didn't read the London part as was fecking baffled
There's no way Labour has a 9 point lead. I'll be fecking ecstatic if that's the case, but it's only Yougov with their experimental modelling.
Im half dubious that these arent paid polls to scare people into getting out to vote tory on polling day.
You can be sure in the next few days the papers will be painting a crisis situation
You can be sure in the next few days the papers will be painting a crisis situation
In London - and 17. Yeah, I wouldn't trust YouGov either.