Reckon Survation will have a Labour lead tonight and the internet will fundamentally explode.
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I like your thinking....Just don't tell Corbyn.
The latest live odds are on your screen now:
Conservatives: 1/16
Labour: 8/1
Liberal Democrats: 750/1
Thread on RedCafe before Sunday entitled 'Labour leadership contest 2017' - 2/1
Conservatives: 1/16
Labour: 8/1
Liberal Democrats: 750/1
Thread on RedCafe before Sunday entitled 'Labour leadership contest 2017' - 2/1
Not even sure what that means. (Or rather, what you want).
The tories cut the additional income rate from 50% to 45%.
They also cut corporation tax from like 28% to 19%.
They also introduced an allowance on capital gains tax
They also introduced a dividend tax allowance.
They also upped the amount you can put into an isa to £20k a year.
So....
The latest live odds are on your screen now:
Conservatives: 1/16
Labour: 8/1
Liberal Democrats: 750/1
Thread on RedCafe before Sunday entitled 'Labour leadership contest 2017' - 2/1
Generous odds on that last one.
Generous odds on that last one.
I have a feeling, Labour will realise they're on to something with Corbyn and they might just break away from the norm and hang on to him.
Or, like when he was under pressure from his own party early on in his reign, he might be stubborn as feck and not resign. I might just see what I can get on him still being leader next week actually.
I feel like he'll desperately try to cling on, but I suspect he'd struggle after any defeat. The motivated and enthused youngsters will likely diminish at the prospect of another five years of Tory government, and Corbyn's ultimately a much stronger campaigner than he is general leader.
PM after election is the one to look at, I think. May 1/6 and Corbyn 5/1 are the best currently available on oddschecker.
Can't argue with that. As a Lib Dem/Tory swing voter who has never had time for the 'old guard left' brand of Labour politics, in my eyes, he's won the campgaign battle quite decisively.
Ahh cheers. Yeah, I pulled those odds out of my ass.
In pounds and pennies. Having a different approach as to how you extract maximum tax revenues and % of tax rate aren't even close to the same thing.
Some people think for example lowering corporation tax increases investment, employment, salaries, spending etc which is turn increases tax receipts.
Other people think increasing corporation tax works like an excel spreadsheet and therefore directly increases tax receipts by the amount you increase the % by.
My experiences lead me to believe that corporation tax rates are irrelevant in that any decent sized company decides what amount of tax they feel is acceptable to pay and then work backwards from there. So if they decide £100k is right given their profitability that year and the tax rate is 20% they'll declare £500k, if it's 40% they'll declare a £250k profit.
Naturally on small businesses it's more painful.
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Really? They're very similar to the odds for 'most seats won'.
I checked them this morning and they're probably a bit distorted with memory. Only one that I remember for definite was the Tories at 1/16.Just had another look at Oddschecker, honestly, the Labour one's a fluke, actually I think they had better odds this morning? What has changed?
Could the Diane Abbott thing really have hurt them?
I think it's just people deciding they've run out of time to change things. We only have three and a bit hours til the media silence starts, I think.
Just had another look at Oddschecker, honestly, the Labour one's a fluke, actually I think they had better odds this morning? What has changed?
Could the Diane Abbott thing really have hurt them?
On small businesses that barely make a profit, it doesn't make any difference whatsoever. Corporation tax being a tax on profits.
Or small businesses can reinvest the profits to grow.
Either way, Germany's Mittelstand businesses don't thrive because corporation taxes are low. They thrive because Germany looks after them in a way we don't.
Do we get final polls all at 10 tonight, or does it not work like that?
In Spain they are wondering why it's taken so long to identify Ignacio Echeverria's body and why, now that's his identity has been verified, the family are not allowed to see his body and take him home until Friday - the day after the election. Could it be that he was shot by the police by mistake and that it's being covered up ?
10pm will be the exit polling.
My dad said earlier that if corbyn stands down after the election he will cancel his party membership.
Tomorrow. He's asking about tonight.
Oh right, sorry.
We will get some final polls before midnight.
Cheers all
I feel depressed already, I think we all know it will be a tory majority and I am nervous for the next 5 years. I would emigrate but I don't think I could stand to live too far from Old Trafford.
Another Corbynista down.
If that is the case then Labour need to reflect. It'd be 2 elections in a row where the strategy seems to have been core vote + attract the students and blame media if it doesn't work.
Yeah the Daily Mail and the Sun are scum but it's a reality anyone that wants to get Labour to power is probably going to have to find a way of dealing with.
Plans for tomorrow:
Wake up. Vote (Green!). Buy sufficient quantities of alcohol to get me and my friend, who will be coming over to join me in misery, through the hours following 10pm.
Wake up. Vote (Green!). Buy sufficient quantities of alcohol to get me and my friend, who will be coming over to join me in misery, through the hours following 10pm.
I'm not talking about businesses that barely make a profit, they're irrelevant to corporarion tax. When I say small businesses I'm talking about a business that makes maybe a low six figure profit.
They're unlikely to have the ability to negate the corporation tax increases; so an extra 5% corporarion tax to them might be £5-10k extra to the government, rather than pay rises to their lower-middle income staff (or on the flip side £5-10k less in the owners pocket)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-win-results-corbyn-theresa-may-a7777781.html
things an't looking good
Think May is screwed unless she delivers a majority of 100+. Tory backbenchers are notoriously ruthless and they'll not want her to fight the next election, especially if it's against a centrist Labour party that provides a credible threat. As she's shown herself to be an absolute liability in campaigns.
Small to medium majority they'll get rid not long after Brexit negotiations conclude. Large majority, they'll stab her in the back closer to the next GE. Don't think any of the main UK party leaders will be around for the next one.
Small to medium majority they'll get rid not long after Brexit negotiations conclude. Large majority, they'll stab her in the back closer to the next GE. Don't think any of the main UK party leaders will be around for the next one.
If your voting Green isn't this the norm for election night.
If I had a house...
The media haven't exactly covered themselves in glory.
Can I ask why you are voting for the Tories? Do you honestly think Theresa May will be a competent PM?
He won't be alone.
No because I'm not voting for the Tories.
Rather a corbynite than a tory.Another Corbynista down.
Actually rather dead than a tory truth be told.
the party will probably be thankfull, they can get back to those core new labour values which are basically..... what would the tories do.....
Remember guys, the Tories are the party of low tax and low spending but NOT of balancing the budget
It's the hope that kills.