The only possible way I could be wrong is if the person I’m talking to is also an experienced human rights lawyer. And I’m willing to bet they aren’t. So my certainty is justified.
General Election 2024
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
The only possible way I could be wrong is if the person I’m talking to is also an experienced human rights lawyer. And I’m willing to bet they aren’t. So my certainty is justified.
None of them seem to these days, whenever something negative happens, they just ignore it and carry on as if nothing has changed. I think he will too.
A little gutted that Streeting didn't lose his seat knowing how close it was. Would have been hilarious.
It also helps that he is charismatic, while the Green leaders, well, the vast majority of Green voters do not even know whom they are.
And more importantly a mandate to govern.
Did the podcast mention the Lynette Williams case? I always felt he knew more than he let on about those documents going missing...
I do agree though, he seemed a very capable lawyer, I hope he proves he's capable as a PM but I'm not holding my breath. It's a big job and I'm not sure he's up to it.
Or if there are things about Starmer that we do not know, at the end of the day what we know about him has been carefully crafted by his PR team.
Not saying he is or isn't a good person, but to talk in absolutes especially about people you don't know personally is a bit weird
The foundations for such a majority don't feel at all strong. Pressure will be on for Labour deliver at decent pace.
Delighted to see the back of the tories.
Delighted to see the back of the tories.
He can give a good speech but the media do his promoting for him. Without that, he’s just another racist.
In this case it's a bit of a shame. John Grogan (Labour candidate) seemed a decent bloke with a good track record. His stance on Gaza is a perfectly reasonable one. The cause of Gaza would have been better served with him in Parliament.
Sunak out soon.
What is the website one can use to check out the official constituency by constituency results including votes for every candidate. I watched the Indian elections a month back and the website was top class but really struggling with one for the UK elections
Disappointed but not surprised to see reform get so many votes
Yep John Grogan has been a great local MP in the past as well.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4nglegege1o
You can then click on a constituency on the map and then find detailed results.
Are we not worried that labour are going to crash the economy like they always allegedly do?
I don't doubt he has expert knowledge on the matter considering his vocation and experience, I just doubt him being a good person with moral integrity, evident by the shocking stance he's taken on a genocide.
Being a human rights lawyer doesn't equate you to being a decent person.
Luckily for people as wealthy as you maybe. I personally think things would have improved for most ordinary working people in this country if Corbyn had had a chance to implement his policies
You can do this on the BBC website by selecting the constituency.
Completely agree with this. Annoyed me when people’s answer to voting Labour was “they aren’t the conservatives”. I asked them to name one policy they like of Labour, and they couldn’t say anything that wasn’t genetically the same as all of other manifestos.
If you’re going to vote for someone, know what you’re voting for. Otherwise why pick Labour over Lib Dems/Green etc etc.
The world constantly changes. In the era of internet/computers, the UK has done feck all. Pretty much the only big company in that aspect is Arm, and you might not even heard about them.
The UK should first improve the economy, and the confidence on it, and then the UK pensions can go there, not the other way around. With the social benefits being lower and lower, the worst thing to do is to also lower the pensions, which would happen if the pensions trust start putting more money in the UK (they already do quite a lot, my pension fund invests 18% in UK equities compared to all-world index funds which put under 5% there.
Ol' sausage fingers has just rocked up.
Labour beat the Tories by 15 votes (no idea who's still voting Tory in this day and age). It was projected to be an easy Labour win, we all voted Green/Lib Dem
My lefty mum (famously interviewed by the BBC on tv outside a hospital during the Corbyn years) voted for the workers party candidate. The rest of her group of 40/50 people voted the same or Green. All around 60 years old and none of them have ever voted anything but Labour.
I still voted Labour.
Derek Twigg, who had been the former MP for Halton, was victorious - taking the new seat for The Labour Party with 23,484 votes. Runner up was Reform with 7,059, Conservatives with 3,507, Greens on 2,058, Lib Dems with 1,593, and the Workers Party of Britain with 415
I didn't know I am wealthy, but that's great to know.
I think the UK would have increased the decay under Corbyn, and in 5 years, would have just resulted with another Tory government who would have been even more right wing. Might be wrong, who knows, we will never know, and again, I am quite happy that we won't ever know.
I'm talking with certainty about his education, qualifications, career and field of expertise. These are indisputable facts.
If labour had rolled out any grand plans the media would have sunk them. Look how hard the flailing Tory party tried to get the tax lie to stick even with the beige shite labour have put out there.
The truth is, this was the best shot at real power Labour had, and they pulled it off masterfully in my opinion. Now, I hope they do a hell of a lot more than they promised. But I completely get why they walked the line as they did either way.
Our media is horrible, and a large proportion of our population very, very easily misled.
PR in this election would probably see Reform as the opposition. That’s the danger of it we have to accept.
Sure but people know that when casting their vote. I’ve never voted Labour in my life because I’ve always lived in LD/Tory seats, it does work both ways. I’ve got no sympathy for the right now moaning about FPTP which of course all the Reform voters are now doing. I wonder how they voted in the 2011 referendum on AV.
The insane thing to ponder is Labour's 34% vote share would have been considerably lower in a PR system, since they no doubt benefited from tactical voting, with many of their votes being Anyone-But-Tory votes. Make every vote count on a national scale and they'd struggle, especially with a drone like Starmer at the helm.
There really needs to be a serious discourse on PR returning, of course it won't be in Labour's interest to pursue since they'd stand to lose much in a more proportional electoral system.
The exit polls that came out at 10pm used data from 20,000 people from 133 polling booths and predicted 410 for Labour. Labour will end up 412-14 seats in the final results, that is absolutely incredible work tbh.
no doubt it is, which is why him making that statement (which he must know is wrong) just to appeal to voters, shows what a morally reprehensive person he is. like i say, another slime ball politician. feck him.
Was she the 'not another one?!' lady?
Find a constituency’s result
That's not what counts when you are talking about a mandate to govern. 33.7% is not a mandate. In fact it's a disgrace that such a percentage has resulted in that many seats.
Labour are just lucky the right collapsed and the voting system is broken.
PR would result in coalitions and voting blocs in a constant state of flux, don't think you'd have a concrete, consistent opposition during a parliamentary term.
This is a good one. Have threadmarked.
Thankfully they were quite off with the Reform prediction
Maybe wealthy was the wrong word but you're definitely not an average working person, so I think it's understandable why you personally are happy he didn't win.
Maybe it would have, maybe it wouldn't. It's just hilarious that it's so acceptable for a country to decay by trying right wing policies that only benefit a few but God forbid a country try left wing policies that are aimed at helping the majority.