Getting rid of Nani

Raoul said:
I think it had something to do with not fitting the LvG "profile" and alot to do with unloading his wages, along with those of RvP, Falcao, and others.
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Yeah the wages was the big plus, but them wages are still available on a new player, but we haven't done that so that is what makes this so baffling.

We were all praising the wage cut to make space for someone to come in but in the end we've just lost arguably our best dribbler.
 
Sir A1ex said:
Never thought I'd say this, but I'm kind of not that bothered now.

I've always been a massive Nani fan and was totally against him going, but the reality is, with Memphis on board, we won't miss him much.

The two players are very similar in terms of both being incredibly, explosively creative, but inconsistent and at times frustrating. LVG was never going to play two player like that in one team, and even I'm not sure I would, were it my choice.

So I guess if we're going to have one or the other, it may as well be the much younger, up and coming one.

Admittedly, there's an argument for being able to rotate them / cover if Memphis is injured. I'm really just thinking in terms of best XI.
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I agree having 2 in the same team could be really frustrating but our attack is dire and I can only see Nani improving on that. Memphis is going to need a few games yet to get fully going and with the huge amount of fixtures coming up I fear it will only get worse.

Nani is coming off a good and injury-free season and has already made a great start at Fenerbahce, while we're missing an out and out winger to aid the attack...frustrating.
 
Nani was not happy to be back up and why should he? He was not going to be starting 11 so he opted to go.
Was not good enough for United starting 11 for years and he needs to play week in, week out so it makes sense he went.
If he had stayed he would just be blocking the likes of Pereira's development.
 
I don't think letting him go was the wrong decision. Not adequately replacing him however.....
 
DannyDash said:
Anyone else think this was a stupid decision to let him go? Its not like we received a huge amount of money or even replaced him with someone like-for-like.

The team is crying out for some pace and someone to beat a man, yes Nani is frustrating but boy he would be an upgrade on what we have going on right now.

Really strange decision to sell for peanuts, what was the harm in keeping him?
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We haven't replaced him with someone that can beat a man and has pace? Memphis and Martial say hi.
 
Ibi Dreams said:
Looking at our squad now, you'd be mad to say that he wouldn't improve it.
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This in a nutshell.

For all Nani's fault's if anyone said they wouldn't like to have him as an option on the bench for tight games like the recent ones against Newcastle and Swansea is a liar frankly.

Both games were crying out for someone who could beat a man or create something, Nani has that in his game.
 
DannyDash said:
Anyone else think this was a stupid decision to let him go? Its not like we received a huge amount of money or even replaced him with someone like-for-like.

The team is crying out for some pace and someone to beat a man, yes Nani is frustrating but boy he would be an upgrade on what we have going on right now.

Really strange decision to sell for peanuts, what was the harm in keeping him?
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Not a stupid decision. Had his time and chances and didn't take them. Was no better when he left than he was when he came. That's poor.
 
Varun said:
Eh? He was our best player when it came to beating a man, easily at that.
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stevoc said:
Never beat a man? Never used his pace? Jesus

Who the feck were you watching.
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How many times did he beat his man and prove a vital assist or goal in his last two seasons here?

No one is denying that he had it in his locker, but the fact is that his performances for us simply weren't good enough.

He was injured quite a lot and didn't play well when he got the chance.

There's a reason he's not at a bigger club - for the last years he hasn't shown anything to prove that he's still a top player we could still use.

He is the definition of deadwood: Past-his-peak, unmotivated, inconsistent and injury prone player on a huge contract. By this reasoning we should have kept RvP, Anderson and Evans as well.

The Nani you people are talking about hasn't existed for the last 2-3 years.
 
Carl said:
We haven't replaced him with someone that can beat a man and has pace? Memphis and Martial say hi.
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They can yes, Memphis atm is getting nullified by opposing managers but he will provide it, but right now we need 2-3 players that can provide pace and beating a man. Martial and Memphis are 19 and 21, very raw at this stage.
 
We don't need pace, we just need movement.

Nani was far too inconsistent for what LvG is after I think, given his age.
 
Who's to say he'd be happy on the bench for a club that already tried to get rid of him.
 
Funny,though not so surprising, that Nani continues to divide opinion even after he has left. It's not that surprising, in my view at least, because he was/is something of a conundrum.

Physically and technically you couldn't hope for a better player in his position. Against this, he had low football intelligence which, as has been noted already, did not really develop in his time with us and his decision-making is as god awful today as it ever was.

Based on nothing other than my intuition, I also believe he lacked the general intelligence to appreciate his failings as a player - hence the lack of improvement - and genuine mental strength (albeit with honourable mention to CL final penalty) to be a consistently successful and confident in a big team. And tbf even as the main man in Sporting he was, while doing a good job, not exactly setting the world on fire.

I appreciate what he did for us, but I'm glad he's gone.

Jury is obviously still out on Depay in all sorts of ways, but it seems clear from what he has shown already that he has much more awareness of team play e.g. Nani probably didn't play as many sidewards/backwards passes in his whole United career (poetic licence for the irony immune among us - you don't know who you are!) as Depay has already. There is another debate to be had about whether or not this is a good thing, but it does indicate a player better able to play in line with more complicated tactical instructions than, go out and enjoy yourself Nani lad (see above).
 
The Nani of somewhere around 2009-2011 would've been great but he just wasn't that player anymore. The ability to beat a man and inject pace into our attacks was rarely on dispaly in his last few seasons here, yet people still claim he would add that to our team now. There was nothing to suggest he would become his old self again so why bother? We don't need Nani, we need a player like him who's actually good enough now.
 
Can you imagine the fallout that would come if Nani were in LvG's first team? They made shelters for that Cold War gone hot level shit.

Nani + philosophy = LvG mushroom cloud.
 
Meh. Alot of the pro-nani fans refuse to believe that we are going through a transition period. Keeping a player that did nothing for us in the first place is confusing even if impatience is the key.

Look at thr players van gaal sold on from barcelona and bayern; rivaldo & luca toni replaced with players like robben, muller, xavi & iniesta.

We can't be winning trophies every year & just because i say that does not make me any less of a fan than some of you. Getting a manager who does will only leave us i the same situation once he goes.

We have a manager who ruthlessly throws out trash and builds a squad willing to play the game all in the same way. Look at how bayern and barcelona are now and then wonder amwhetger talkimg about nani leaving is worth your breathe.
 
He should still be here, or we should have signed a RW.

-------Rooney------
Memphis-Mata-Nani

as probably the 2nd option after having Herrera as the 10 and Mata out right.

And I'd rather have Nani come on with Fellaini for 20 minutes of crossing than Young in the same role. Personally, I would have probably sold Valencia to some Prem team willing to overpay and just made Young (or Varela from the little I've seen, he looks talented) as the backup RB and kept Nani around.
 
I liked Nani, frustrated me a lot though but with him you knew he would try and get you goals, either shots or crossing it in not just passing it backwards. Also he was quick on the counter attack which is also something we miss
 
Selling Nani wasn't the problem. Not replacing him was.
Selling RVP wasn't the problem. Not replacing him was.
Selling Hernendez wasn't the problem. Not replacing him was.
Selling Di Maria wasn't the problem. Not replacing him was.

You get my drift.
 
I'm a huge Nani supporter and would've loved him to have stayed. However, I think this was also a case of him just needing a change. He never really seemed like he was willing to stick it out.
 
I suspect LvG would've disapproved of an impromptu seal dribble when he expected him to pass it back to the keeper.
 
Sam said:
Selling Nani wasn't the problem. Not replacing him was.
Selling RVP wasn't the problem. Not replacing him was.
Selling Hernendez wasn't the problem. Not replacing him was.
Selling Di Maria wasn't the problem. Not replacing him was.

You get my drift.
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At least two of these were replaced. And there was way too many attacking options anyway, but 4 out, 3 in would of been the right amount.
 
DannyDash said:
They can yes, Memphis atm is getting nullified by opposing managers but he will provide it, but right now we need 2-3 players that can provide pace and beating a man. Martial and Memphis are 19 and 21, very raw at this stage.
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Very raw usually means lack of consistency and end product. 2 things which accurately describe Nani.
 
pierrethesnack said:
How many times did he beat his man and prove a vital assist or goal in his last two seasons here?
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In the last two years at United? Well not much since he was on loan last year and injured most of the year before that. But let's go back to your original post shall we.

He never did that anyway, so no. As for pace...he had it, but never used it.
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So which is it the last 2 years one of which he wasn't here or he could never beat a man?



pierrethesnack said:
The Nani you people are talking about hasn't existed for the last 2-3 years.
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Di you actually watch him for Sporting last year or did you just assume he was shit?

He was still very quick and regularly able to beat a man. Again you must be watching a different player.
 
Players always become world-beaters when they are out injured, or have just left.

He had 2/3rds of a good season for us in, what, 6 years?
 
Losing Nani was a very annoying decision for me considering Memphis is churning out performance after performance Nani was booed by our fans for. He should have been here last year and this and I'd rather have him in the squad than Valencia and Young. Really baffling that Rafael and Nani were thrown out without getting a fair chance.
 
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