We are in a rough place atm no doubt but I don't think everyone has to be hysterical and think we're doomed for years to come.
We had a manager for 27 years and to have a hard period adjusting isn't that difficult to imagine for me at least.
Guardiola confirmed to City... what does this mean for us?
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We had a manager for 27 years and to have a hard period adjusting isn't that difficult to imagine for me at least.
It means City twisting us inside out with quick interchanging and 75%+ possession at Old Trafford, whilst we camp on the edge of our own box...
It's obviously not all over, it doesn't spell inevitable doom for United, but there can be little doubt which club will be favourites to clean up the most trophies in the next three years (and play the best, most expansive football whilst doing it). Mourinho with a point to prove and on full wind-up mode is probably our best bet of stopping/disrupting City in this coming period, but that sadly seems like a very unlikely prospect at this stage.
It's a great coup for City. Guardiola looks like the final piece of the puzzle in their quest to be taken properly seriously on the European stage. He'll be a boost for them in the transfer market too. The bastards.
It's obviously not all over, it doesn't spell inevitable doom for United, but there can be little doubt which club will be favourites to clean up the most trophies in the next three years (and play the best, most expansive football whilst doing it). Mourinho with a point to prove and on full wind-up mode is probably our best bet of stopping/disrupting City in this coming period, but that sadly seems like a very unlikely prospect at this stage.
It's a great coup for City. Guardiola looks like the final piece of the puzzle in their quest to be taken properly seriously on the European stage. He'll be a boost for them in the transfer market too. The bastards.
What if Pep to City has been all but finalized for a REALLY long time?
What if we barely had a chance to secure him?
What if City being successful with him doesn't necessarily mean we're going down the drain?
What if there is a world where both United and City could coexist as the big dogs of the league?
It's amazing that there were so many people who truly believed that Pep was coming here based off of reasons stemming from the logic of biased fans. And then at the same time, his tenure at City will mean the end for United. There's no middle ground is there? It goes from delusional hope to hopeless despair. I'm just glad this is finally settled so the rest of the fans can wake the feck up.
In all honesty, I can see us going for Mourinho. A rival of Pep who will join the rival of City. Both managing the two juggernauts of English football — the richest league and the most watched in the world. Think of the build up and hype that will bring when those two face each other, especially when they've had history managing the two top clubs in La Liga. It's a marketing wet dream and a marketing man like Woodward will realize this. There's more stories to sell about this — way more than the romance of Giggs managing us. There will be a lot of money to be gained. It'll be great (for entertainment's sake). Until then, we're probably going to have to tough it out with LVG in charge and pray to the football gods that we make top 4 so we can have a nice drama-free transition from LVG to Mourinho.
What if we barely had a chance to secure him?
What if City being successful with him doesn't necessarily mean we're going down the drain?
What if there is a world where both United and City could coexist as the big dogs of the league?
It's amazing that there were so many people who truly believed that Pep was coming here based off of reasons stemming from the logic of biased fans. And then at the same time, his tenure at City will mean the end for United. There's no middle ground is there? It goes from delusional hope to hopeless despair. I'm just glad this is finally settled so the rest of the fans can wake the feck up.
In all honesty, I can see us going for Mourinho. A rival of Pep who will join the rival of City. Both managing the two juggernauts of English football — the richest league and the most watched in the world. Think of the build up and hype that will bring when those two face each other, especially when they've had history managing the two top clubs in La Liga. It's a marketing wet dream and a marketing man like Woodward will realize this. There's more stories to sell about this — way more than the romance of Giggs managing us. There will be a lot of money to be gained. It'll be great (for entertainment's sake). Until then, we're probably going to have to tough it out with LVG in charge and pray to the football gods that we make top 4 so we can have a nice drama-free transition from LVG to Mourinho.
That statement sums up the circus that is MUFC, VG can do more and more damage, play more toothless possession football, and woodward would still keep VG in charge, this move today signals defiantly a VG stay next season
Can't help but feel that van Gaal was now a complete waste of time, had hoped he'd lay the foundation for Pep to succeed here but not to be... If anything this now underlines our need to replace van Gaal now.
If LvG keeps displaying relegation form, as he has been doing since... somewhere around October... he'll be sacked, if we keep getting booed off at OT, the board will have to act, particuarly if we don't make top 4.
Guardiola isn't going to do Fergie style legacy at City, he'll be there 3-4 years and move on, 3 years isn't that long a period in football terms.
Some of us just need to step back and breathe a bit me thinks.
Im not sure who it will be either, all I know is that is the structure MUFC needs to adhere to if we are to be successful again.
They'll probably sign Messi this summer or next.
I think that's happened already, at least to a degree. Hanging on to the hope that Pep might rock up here in the summer was always a bit pie-in-the-sky when it was pretty clear that City was his preferred destination. I don't think the club really knows what it wants to do. Van Gaal will be here until the end of the season at least and then who knows? Hopefully, they've got Mourinho lined up.
I would want him gone in the summer or he has been allowed another spending spree. I like his signings actually, just don't like the way he is asking them to play. Jose can be pragmatic, but he makes sure the result is assured first.
I think it makes the strongest case to sign Mourinho as a counterbalance in the transfer market. Anyone of less stature cannot get the players we need.
It means that our board is useless.
Good point actually. I had given up on getting Pep a while ago but when LVG was appointed I did think it was a possibility and the prospect of him laying the foundations for Pep crossed my mind at the time. Scratch that I guess.
It's like asking the name of a potential Academy Director, we are not in a position to give you a name but we still need one. Though Leonardo is a decent one.
Never thought he'd come to United. City have been working on getting him since 2012 and he prefers to work with established teams rather than trying rebuild a broken club like United.
Probably a few record thrashings home and away. Thankfully we're quite acclimatized to them now thanks to Moyes.
Yea, because Messi followed him to Bayern right?
Leaving the champions of europe to fulfill his dream of living in Manchester.
Got it.
Is that the absolutely gorgeous chap from Brazil?
He'll do.Absolutely Gorgeous I don't know, but yes.
I don't this Ryan Giggs obsession, especially from people on Sky Sports. The likes of Theirry Henry and Ray Parlour are saying "would they risk losing Giggs if they appointed Jose" as if Ryan has some god given right to just take over the job like a first born to the thrown. If it was a straight up choice between Giggs and Mourinho I'd be amazed many would choose Ryan purely because he played for us.
Pep pretty much guarantees the title for as long as he's interested in City
Amazing isn't it. I couldn't care less. Maybe MUTV can start an adult film channel, he will be in demand on that.
It's a joke to be honest, he was a great player for us no doubt but he has no given right to just take over the managers job when he feels he is ready.
Risk losing Giggs to who?
They didn't say specifically but they were saying would we risk him not wanting to work under Jose (like who cares?)..
How has this been allowed to happen? SBC didn't become our manager. The one time he tried he failed. Wilf failed. Gary Neville is not doing great. I would hope that has started the alarm bells ringing.
Wanted him here, now worried who we'll get. Could be anyone from Giggs to Mourinho, no idea really.
Not worried much about City though: he won't have what he had at Barca and Bayern: great young and / or local players coming through and a rather young squad. City have none of this.
Not worried much about City though: he won't have what he had at Barca and Bayern: great young and / or local players coming through and a rather young squad. City have none of this.
This place is in total meltdown today. Pep is not a guaranteed success at City. This is by a long way the hardest job he's ever had, and City need a lot of work. He'll win the league then pack his bags when the going gets tough.
As long as we do them on the counter so be it.If Chelsea managed over two legs vs his Barca, we should be fine vs the current City set-up. I just hope he isn't given time to succeed and bring through his own team - he's undoubtedly one of the biggest names in football management and will have the pick of anyone not signing for the big Spanish two.
We always knew he was going to City...so why the meltdown?
It's just a nasty reminder about the mess we are in. Yes he will have a hard job there, but his name and their money will make it even more exciting for City fans. What have we to look forward to. It would just be our luck for LvG to announce he has signed an extension tomorrow.
I should have added sarcasm tags to my post. More directed at the meltdown posts in here. If we had a choice of managers beating down our door Pep would not be my first choice. Yeah, easy to say now but I've felt them same way since it was known he was leaving Bayern. I want Jose and I feel it's written for us to get him. If United stick with LVG after this season it will confirm the club is run by a bunch of fools with self centered agendas.
Yeah, it's bizarre. If we lose Giggs...then, well, we lose Giggs. I'd love for him to stick around since I'm sure he knows his football and can have a useful input, but if part of getting a new top manager involves getting rid of some coaching staff, which include him, then so be it.
Not necessarily...I'd back them to be heavily successful if he does go there, but football can be a strange game. It's certainly likely he'll have them in a fairly dominant position though.
He just isn't really ever up for a proper challenge is he? "Look how good I am at being a football manager of the very best teams with the very best players!".
If we had just done the absolute obvious thing and bought in Jose Mourinho seamlessly as SAF retired, we'd still be dominating IMO
Some deluded people thought he was coming here....We always knew he was going to City...so why the meltdown?
He'll stay at City for 3 years then move to Juve/PSG for equal amounts of time.
Said it in another Mourinho thread.
Regardless of head to head (which is partly down to players), when you go to war with Pep, you bring Jose.
Regardless of head to head (which is partly down to players), when you go to war with Pep, you bring Jose.