Four more than Pep had when he took over at Barca as well...So could I, if given that chance. I think Giggs has "only" managed four more games than me as well.
Guardiola confirmed to City... what does this mean for us?
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Don't see age as a real problem there. he's only there for 3 years. Most players will still be in their prime at that age. But squad is probably the weakest of the 3 professional teams he has managed/will manage, so that will be the challenge for him. To buy players who fit his style and executing that style in a league like the PL.
I honestly don't care that much at this given time.
This is one of the most ill informed and wrong opinions still doing the rounds on here. Tell me again, what does Pep and Giggs have in common again?
It depresses me just thinking about the players Pep will be planning to bring to City in the summer - Messi? Muller?
This is what I don't understand. Are you suggesting that we should have the power to control a man's decision? Maybe he rejected us, maybe we never tried to get him, maybe etc. It's all speculation and I prefer to stick to facts. Guardiola chose City. I don't see how Man United factor into that equation.
He managed lower down their system. Giggs has four games, which were not all great and tbh looked at times he looked clueless. If he had been the U-21 manager then you could see something. Warren Joyce has more credentials to be our manager.
A lot of people dismiss this because it's off the pitch, but it really gives you an indication of his character.
Not sure I can support a man who fecked his brother's wife. That's what's we call a moral-less prick.
It isn't that Pep chose City, we all knew that was coming, it's that we are sitting on our hands while LvG is destroying our team and what is the next best option. Ryan Giggs it seems. God help us.
Then of course there will be Ed's big speech during the tour about who we are going to sign. He can get lost.
Meh, it was always happening so I'm not bothered now it's confirmed.
We have our own problems to sort out and I'm not convinced he would have been the man to do that anyway.
We have our own problems to sort out and I'm not convinced he would have been the man to do that anyway.
No senior management experience and a full career at the club they took over/might take over.
Only Giggs is slightly ahead given that he's been your assistant for two years now. If Arsenal fail I don't blame Steve Bould. Your fans are turning a bit mental in their criticism of Giggs. It boggles the mind how people can speak so negatively of a so-called 'club legend.'
It would be great if the club appointed someone with 'managerial credentials', just like Moyes and LVG. Look how great the club has been a managing the transition to the post-Ferguson era. But the reality is the vast majority of posters on here seemed to think the 'answer' or 'magic bullet' to that transition was to appoint Pep or Jose and all would be resolved. I don't buy that logic for a second. The club has entered a new era, the post-Ferguson era and what it needs most of all is the genuine patience and support of its supporters. Of course the football has been infuriating this season and I've been as frustrated as most. But if the club genuinely has a transitionary plan to move things forward I'm prepared to support that and not throw my toys out of the pram because we didn't get Pep to 'save' us.
What does this mean for Joe Hart? Awful with the ball at his feet.
He doesn't deserve a god damn thing.
That's an excellent point.
Not suggesting in any way that he's not a good or even a great manager but there will be challenges he's never faced before, which maybe explains why he's opted to manage here. But he'll find teams who won't roll over for him like they have in Spain and Germany. The EPL is an excellent legue and the most watched for those reasons. I've no agenda with Pep but has he rebuilt a team with little fear of competition before. Whatever LVGs failings this year, Pep hasn't built teams from the bottom up.Having said that, replacing a squad that is ageing will be interesting to watch
So the worst kept secret in football is finally out. He was ALWAYS going to end up at City.
Quite embaressing that one of the worlds best managers chose to join city over United, it just shows his far we've fallen and now will continue to fall.
Quite embaressing that one of the worlds best managers chose to join city over United, it just shows his far we've fallen and now will continue to fall.
He at least had a year with Barcelona B though.
I do think its a dangerous game United are playing if Giggs is next in line. Its basically a risk even bigger than the Moyes risk we took.
TBH, im not too fussed about what other teams do in terms of managers as long as United have a plan (and hoping that plan isnt the hope LVG turns it around and that Giggs takes over and becomes our own Pep).
No chance on them 2.It depresses me just thinking about the players Pep will be planning to bring to City in the summer - Messi? Muller?
Anyway he said he won't be taking any players from Bayern.
We get Mourinho.. That what hopefully we lose tomorrow so LVG can get sacked and Mourinho starts next week. We get top 4 and look forward to Chris Smalling kicking lumps out of Aguro next season. Should be fun again.
Nah, still don't get it
It depresses me just thinking about the players Pep will be planning to bring to City in the summer - Messi? Muller?
Neymar.
I don't get a lot of the reaction on here. Yes, he has an excellent history domestically, but just look at the competition in the leagues he's managed in. Bar the odd freakish fluke, no one in this league gets smashed by 5+ goals by every club in the top 3/4...
This league is entirely different for Pep, and whilst the overall quality is much lower, the competition is going to be new waters for him. Again, just a hunch, but I don't see him beating the likes of Stoke, Everton and Crystal Palace by 5+ goal deficits at any point in his tenure.
Another thing to factor is that squad is ageing as feck. Bar the odd product bought in such as De Bruyne, the only things Pep have to work with for the future are still being left behind to guys entering their 30s. Apart from that kid who got a hatttrick against Villa, is this squad really not going to need some kind of overhaul for Pep to lay his foundations?
Finally you have the myth that he's going to boss the Champions' League. Sure he worked a miracle with that Barca squad which finished 3rd, but again, La Liga and Bundesliga are/always have been two-three horse races every season. You really think he's going to take Manchester City, and outclass teams such as Barca, Real, Bayern, even PSG?
As for us, this club has been stuck in a psychological rut ever since SAF left. We didn't magically get cursed and become shit the second he resigned - but him and Gill leaving and replacing them with two clowns certainly helped. Since then, we've appointed two managers, one of whom aspired to be like our rivals who only became relevant when the Sheiks took over - the other a dinosaur who is so self-obsessed, he probably stands in front of his bathroom mirror every night saying "they love you, Louish"...
The fact Pep is taking over City has little to no effect on us. We are where we our because of our own wrongdoings, not because of the managers or players of other clubs. We'll still have the opportunity to win the league next year, but will blow it again whilst Chelsea bring back ex number 17 to manage them, Klopp will still be celebrating draws at Anfield, Wenger will be hoping for the other 19 clubs to drop off the face of the earth, and Pep will be breaking in his squad (or as most here think, anally destroying every footballing vessel in Europe!!!1!)
Tl;dr - Pep is entering a whole new world which won't guarantee him anything, and our problems are completely self-inflicted and have nothing to do with Pep/City.
This league is entirely different for Pep, and whilst the overall quality is much lower, the competition is going to be new waters for him. Again, just a hunch, but I don't see him beating the likes of Stoke, Everton and Crystal Palace by 5+ goal deficits at any point in his tenure.
Another thing to factor is that squad is ageing as feck. Bar the odd product bought in such as De Bruyne, the only things Pep have to work with for the future are still being left behind to guys entering their 30s. Apart from that kid who got a hatttrick against Villa, is this squad really not going to need some kind of overhaul for Pep to lay his foundations?
Finally you have the myth that he's going to boss the Champions' League. Sure he worked a miracle with that Barca squad which finished 3rd, but again, La Liga and Bundesliga are/always have been two-three horse races every season. You really think he's going to take Manchester City, and outclass teams such as Barca, Real, Bayern, even PSG?
As for us, this club has been stuck in a psychological rut ever since SAF left. We didn't magically get cursed and become shit the second he resigned - but him and Gill leaving and replacing them with two clowns certainly helped. Since then, we've appointed two managers, one of whom aspired to be like our rivals who only became relevant when the Sheiks took over - the other a dinosaur who is so self-obsessed, he probably stands in front of his bathroom mirror every night saying "they love you, Louish"...
The fact Pep is taking over City has little to no effect on us. We are where we our because of our own wrongdoings, not because of the managers or players of other clubs. We'll still have the opportunity to win the league next year, but will blow it again whilst Chelsea bring back ex number 17 to manage them, Klopp will still be celebrating draws at Anfield, Wenger will be hoping for the other 19 clubs to drop off the face of the earth, and Pep will be breaking in his squad (or as most here think, anally destroying every footballing vessel in Europe!!!1!)
Tl;dr - Pep is entering a whole new world which won't guarantee him anything, and our problems are completely self-inflicted and have nothing to do with Pep/City.
bollocks to that. Anyone who wants us to lose so it suits their agenda should go and support someone else
Oh this is just written in the stars isn't it? Pep to City. Mourinho to United. Clash of the titans.
Love to see Pep do his high line vs Martial.
Love to see Pep do his high line vs Martial.
we always knew he was going to City....
Exactly he wasn't a volunteer giving his services free for the cause, he was well paid as a footballer.
You don't know that. It's all speculation and nothing changed in that regard by Guardiola choosing City.
Pat yourself on the back. Top fan!!
There is nothing ambitious about hiring a novice. Obviously I don't know him, I never discussed with him and he might be a football genius but from the outside United isn't a good structure for a novice and Giggs doesn't look like a manager, maybe a coach but not a manager.
City are making all the right decisions while we are constantly doing bad ones. In such a short period of time they will have cemented their place as one of the best clubs in the world by being able to attract one of the best managers and all the top players they sign.
Completely agree. We need to get our own house in order before worrying what Guardiola might/might not win at City. By all accounts him joining them has been in the pipeline since 2012, so people shouldn't complain that we didn't 'try hard enough to get him'.
We need pragmatic solutions to the discrepencies of our football club, from the top down.
Yep, in many ways his time at City will decide if he is an all time great or just a a great manager. City obviously have a few weak links especially at full backs and RW and he may not exactly appreciate someone like Yaya. Will be interesting on the players he buys. I thought his buys at Bayern were stellar this season, Costa and Coman especially.
If the basis for us appointing our new manager is that they know more than Smores from redcafe then we're really scraping the barrel
I'm pretty sure Pep wouldn't have gone to City if it wasn't for his friends there.
Hilarious meltdown by some on here.
Can see them starting slowly and taking time to adjust to his methods. We're especially fecked if they get a marquee signing like Neymar along with him though as that will help mask any transition period.