Harry Kane - 2015/16 performances

Some people are struggling to identify the distinction between inherent talent and harnessing that talent.

Martial is a more gifted footballer than Kane. He's can do things with the ball that Kane cannot. He has physical attributes that Kane will never have. It's for this reason he has outrageous potential, moreso than any other forward in his age bracket.

Talent isn't always harnessed and developed into the product it should, however, which dictates that less gifted footballers - and sportspeople in general - can go on to achieve a lot more than people would perhaps predict.
 
How many goals had Kane scored at Martial's age? Didn't he start to score in the PL after he was already 20?
 
Kag said:
Some people are struggling to identify the distinction between inherent talent and harnessing that talent.

Martial is a more gifted footballer than Kane. He's can do things with the ball that Kane cannot. He has physical attributes that Kane will never have. It's for this reason he has outrageous potential, moreso than any other forward in his age bracket.

Talent isn't always harnessed and developed into the product it should, however, which dictates that less gifted footballers - and sportspeople in general - can go on to achieve a lot more than people would perhaps predict.
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Basically this. More talented doesn't mean is a better player (though I'd rather have Martial right now anyway, but that's not the point). Messi has always had way more talent then Ronaldo, Iniesta has always had more talent then Ronaldo. They haven't always been better players though. Kane is a very good player and has potential to improve, but Martial has the potential to be competing for the ballon D'or, Kane just doesn't have that level.
 
Treble said:
How many goals had Kane scored at Martial's age? Didn't he start to score in the PL after he was already 20?
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If I remember correctly when he was 19 he was on loan at Leicester in the Championship being slagged off by their fans.

Not really a slight on him though to be fair, their fans are pricks
 
He's banging them in at the minute after a slow start. Good to see.
 
ffs...he can't stop scoring when he is in the mood for goals.
 
Are any of his goals ever placed? Whenever I see him score they are either deflected, or hit centrally as hard as he can.
 
He strikes the ball really well with power but manages to keep it low at the same time, something Rooney used too do until his foot injuries.

His composure 1v1 is a bit of a worry though, seems to panic when he's got a bit of time to think.
 
DWelbz19 said:
Are any of his goals ever placed? Whenever I see him score they are either deflected, or hit centrally as hard as he can.
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He had a decent amount of those placed shots last season, against Chelsea notably so yeah he is capable of that.
 
Kane is a proper striker. However, I m not sure if I would choose him over Ronaldo. Perhaps, it will make more sense to in regards to longevity. Eitherway, I feel for us to get Kane, we will have to address the elephant in the room. Else, we will find ourselves shoehorning players in our team like what we did with falcao, Rooney and rvp. Nevertheless, having Martial and Kane as our striker will be enticing.
 
Choo choo choo motherfeckers. I'm glad that I'm the OP as I've always been a fan of this young talented beautiful boy.
 
Haven't seen him today but he's really impressed me this season with his work outside of scoring goals. Occupied centre halves well, runs non stop and his quality on the ball is actually a lot better than I thought. He's not someone like benteke who is better off staying away from the buildup. Kane genuinely has a lot to offer in the buildup. Only thing I found odd was how in his drought, he kept shooting the ball in the general direction of the goal without placing it. I don't if that's something he does a lot but I imagine it's something he can work on.

He also looks to me like someone who would compliment martial really well.
 
hes one seson wonder some said... like vardy some said, what a bullshit and misjudgement by them, he's great young well balanced player who will only work hard to get to better nd he scores gols too.

btw other shit player kyle walker is having a good seson as well..
 
Santiago_KinderBueno said:
Im not sure if he would fit in in our first XI. A bit stagnant compared to someone like martial but then again it maybe what we need. Every attacking arrow needs a spear of sorts.
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He'd fit in perfectly, his hold up play is fantastic and his creativity is seriously underrated, he has a knack of picking and playing the right pass. A front three with Kane central and Martial and Depay out wide (if the later fulfills his potential) is mouthwatering. He's a big game player too, he has got 12 in 14 London derbies.
 
ivaldo said:
He'd fit in perfectly, his hold up play is fantastic and his creativity is seriously underrated, he has a knack of picking and playing the right pass. A front three with Kane central and Martial and Depay out wide (if the later fulfills his potential) is mouthwatering.
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I'd still rather have Martial in a central position, though. I'm more than happy to see him shifted out wide occasionally, but if Kane were to come then we'd presumably be sacrificing Martial as a central option over the longer term which I'm not sure about. If were to go for Kane, I'd rather we were playing with the two of them up top.
 
Cheesy said:
I'd still rather have Martial in a central position, though. I'm more than happy to see him shifted out wide occasionally, but if Kane were to come then we'd presumably be sacrificing Martial as a central option over the longer term which I'm not sure about. If were to go for Kane, I'd rather we were playing with the two of them up top.
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I'm undecided whether Martial is actually better as a striker than out wide or if it's a consequence of having Rooney up top for so long that we've forgotten what a proper striker looks like. That being said a fluid front three or four could see Martial get plenty of time centrally anyway. Kanes often dropping deep or wide to collect the ball so having Martial drift into that vacated space would be terrific.
 
ivaldo said:
I'm undecided whether Martial is actually better as a striker than out wide or if it's a consequence of having Rooney up top for so long that we've forgotten what a proper striker looks like. That being said a fluid front three or four could see Martial get plenty of time centrally anyway. Kanes often dropping deep or wide to collect the ball so having Martial drift into that vacated space would be terrific.
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Kane's team work is underated but i just happen to think that martial was bought with regards to wingers cutting in and him overlapping them from central positions. Either way; we do need someone different too; it's just that we have pleanty of spaces in our current XI before thinking about plan B's and all.

It ain't going to happen for the next 2 years anyway; i'd really doubt tottenham wouldn't get CL this year.
 
Santiago_KinderBueno said:
Kane's team work is underated but i just happen to think that martial was bought with regards to wingers cutting in and him overlapping them from central positions. Either way; we do need someone different too; it's just that we have pleanty of spaces in our current XI before thinking about plan B's and all.

It ain't going to happen for the next 2 years anyway; i'd really doubt tottenham wouldn't get CL this year.
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top three is gonna be us, mancity and arsenal, its gonna be a huge huge battle for the fourth spot this year, leicester in the mix too with Klopp's Liverpool and I wouldn't write chelsea off just yet, my actual bet would be liverpool for the champions league this year..
 
Santiago_KinderBueno said:
Kane's team work is underated but i just happen to think that martial was bought with regards to wingers cutting in and him overlapping them from central positions. Either way; we do need someone different too; it's just that we have pleanty of spaces in our current XI before thinking about plan B's and all.

It ain't going to happen for the next 2 years anyway; i'd really doubt tottenham wouldn't get CL this year.
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Yeah, there just not going to sell him.
 
m1y2 said:
top three is gonna be us, mancity and arsenal, its gonna be a huge huge battle for the fourth spot this year, leicester in the mix too with Klopp's Liverpool and I wouldn't write chelsea off just yet, my actual bet would be liverpool for the champions league this year..
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They're really not.
 
I like Kane. Think he will always get goals, but he has much more to his game than that. He strikes me as more of a Sheringham type center forward than a standard number 09. He has a good football brain already, and looks like he has the awareness, vision and weight of passing that allows him to drop deep and still be very effective. As was also the case with Teddy, i see him having no problem adapting to different types of partners and situations. On top of that, when he isn't playing well he still puts in a real shift for the team.
Plenty to admire in my view, and i would be happy if we were to sign him. He would be a definite improvement over Rooney, and i believe we would see far better link up play between Kane, Mata and Martial than we do at present.
 
Think he is a very good player but not sure if he is the forward we need. Need someone with pace and out wide with Martial central. Don't want to sacrifice Martial centrally for Kane.
 
Quality striker, I'd say only second to Aguero as far as number nines in the PL go. I'm surprised at the amount of people who would turn up the opportunity to sign him just because we have Martial in our ranks. Personally, I think they would complement each other and work in tandem so well.

He's not simply a goalscoring threat. His overall game is extremely impressive; strong, reasonably mobile and good hold-up play and his creativity and passing is largely unheralded. I'd go as far as saying it's one of his best qualities.

With all that in mind, he'd be my number one striker option in the summer. The fact he's British is great too.
 
Glanville95 said:
Quality striker, I'd say only second to Aguero as far as number nines in the PL go. I'm surprised at the amount of people who would turn up the opportunity to sign him just because we have Martial in our ranks. Personally, I think they would complement each other and work in tandem so well.

He's not simply a goalscoring threat. His overall game is extremely impressive; strong, reasonably mobile and good hold-up play and his creativity and passing is largely unheralded. I'd go as far as saying it's one of his best qualities.

With all that in mind, he'd be my number one striker option in the summer. The fact he's British is great too.
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A bit of a stretch. He found some form but needs to do a lot to deserve that.
 
Enigma_87 said:
A bit of a stretch. He found some form but needs to do a lot to deserve that.
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Who would you definitively put above him as #9s go? And don't you dare say vardy!
 
ivaldo said:
Who would you definitively put above him as #9s go? And don't you dare say vardy!
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I know the whole Chelsea team is a disarray at the moment, but surely Diego Costa is 2nd best in the league.
 
Enigma_87 said:
A bit of a stretch. He found some form but needs to do a lot to deserve that.
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How about scoring more league goals in calendar year 2015 so far than any other striker in the Prem?
 
GlastonSpur said:
How about scoring more league goals in calendar year 2015 so far than any other striker in the Prem?
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Or scoring 3 in 1500 or so minutes from April till end of October? His scoring form is far too patchy at the moment(of course something that being young and inexperienced yet will suggest).
 
He's the best after Aguero for me.

Has it all. Him and Martial would be frightening. Them with Memphis and a creative #10 would be frightening.
 
Enigma_87 said:
I know the whole Chelsea team is a disarray at the moment, but surely Diego Costa is 2nd best in the league.
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I don't think so, he's been struggling since the back end of January Last Year, I think he only got 3 goals from February onwards, injuries seem to be taking their toll.
 
ivaldo said:
I don't think so, he's been struggling since the back end of January Last Year, I think he only got 3 goals from February onwards, injuries seem to be taking their toll.
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Well he scored 3 in 7 or 3 in 6 or something since that time as he was injured for most part of April/May.

He had couple of suspensions as well. All in all I think he was 20 goals in 25 games(may not be entirely correct) last season and now he's 3 in 11(again with couple of suspensions). Game/goal ratio IMO is better than Kane's
 
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