No, should be playing 4-2-3-1, as Spurs do ... that's if you want the best of Kane.
Oh, and let someone else take corners. Having the Prem's golden boot winner do it is beyond ridiculous.
Harry Kane - 2015/16 performances
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No, should be playing 4-2-3-1, as Spurs do ... that's if you want the best of Kane.
Oh, and let someone else take corners. Having the Prem's golden boot winner do it is beyond ridiculous.
He's not as good the hype would suggest. Plenty of other strikers would score 20+ playing every minute and taking all penalties for Spurs.
Soldado didnt.
Anyway, not a great performance but he wasnt helped at all. Him taking set pieces especially corners is a baffling decision.
He was shit today. Not for a lack of service either. He just offered no movement for his midfield
lol ... how many other strikers in the Prem have scored 46 league goals in the last 2 seasons?
The clueless, knee-jerk reactions on this forum are amazing to behold.
He was poor. The Russian OAP centrebacks comfortably pocketed him. I'm a big fan but with Sturridge and Vardy on the bench he needs to feel the pressure for his place.
It's a rare occasion Glaston but you are absolutely right.
It's a bit like death and taxes here, one poor performance and Pogba isn't worth 20m, Kane's a crock, Greizmann is no Andre Gomes and so on and so forth.
This thread is hilarious the last few pages. One poor game and he's shite apparently.
Same with Griezman. Apparently he's just average.
Griezmann and Pogba yesterday,Kane today.
It's possible for very good players to have bad games at major tournaments.
He is a good player player but offered no movement, pace or cleverness on the ball.Should have been substituted for Vary on the 60th minute.
People criticizing little creativity from the other players when Harry Kane himself did not offer movement.
People criticizing little creativity from the other players when Harry Kane himself did not offer movement.
Apart from a single poster in the Griezmann thread, no one else called him average.People where questioning his suitability to playing as a wide forward and rightly so in my opinion. Pogba is a very good player but people where criticizing how much is been touted for him and his quality does not deserve a world record fee.
Every player is open to criticism and discussing your favourite players ' limitations is not fickle or knee jack.
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Not great tonight but he's still Englands best threat, and there isn't much competition
Vardy and Sturridge aren't much competition?
For once actually there's a whole lot of competition.
Wouldn't drop him of course, he just needs to be partnered with somebody or someone close to him to feed off of. Way too isolated as a lone striker in a 4-3-3, Russia's center backs dominated him completely. Vardy should play alongside him though up top.
good player but looked average tonight. Would've brought on Vardy to stretch the old Russian CB's
Why in the world was Kane taking corners for England today?
What goes through Hodgson's head for him to think that's a good idea? Very odd.
What goes through Hodgson's head for him to think that's a good idea? Very odd.
Yeah i would like to know that. Im not English and dont follow the national team that much (although i know all the players fron the premier league) but why the fck is Kane takif set pieces... his best one was actually the one where he stepped over it so Dier could score.
Kane was horrible in general, 3/10 performance from him and i really didnt understand why Vardy/Sturridge/Rashford wasnt brought on.
Kane was well of his game.. Roy lost the match, Rooney off for Wilshere well that didnt help and milner for Sterling (who by the way was the worst on the pitch) was even worse.. After the goal fresh legs with Vardy and Sturridge or even Rashford. Dier looked out of it after the goal.. Sadly England had great fullbacks if you need to attack but defending thats not their thing.
yeah for such a good header of the ball , taking the corners... doesn't make sense even though his technique on the ball is great..
How many times did he feck up an attack by being offside? Vardy should have been brought on.
Why is it 'clueless' or 'knee jerk' just because I don't think he's the superstar that's made out. He's obviously good, I just think he's massively overhyped, I might be wrong.
To put into context, without penalties he scored 20 goals playing nearly every minute for the team that statistically created the most chances in the league. Giroud scored 15 playing significantly less minutes for Arsenal. One is hyped up as a superstar, the other a useless donkey.
Actually it's 49 league goals, don't sell him short mate.
20 goals in 38 games is an excellent strike rate, not many strikers achieve that in the PL and he's done it two season running. As for your "stats", lol, as somebody famously said, "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics". So you are implying that all those chances fell to Harry Kane. I can think of plenty of chances through the season that fell to Chadli, Son, Eriksen, Lamela, Alli, and even a few that fell to others such as Mason, Dembele, Dier, Walker. You started your comment with "to put it in to context", then quote a stat which totally skews the context.
He looked tired and disinterested today, usually you see him pestering defenders, or making darting runs to try and get ahead of a man. How ever he was walking into the box at points today, i think one Danny Rose cross he was walking into the box as it came in. God knows why Vardy didn't come on for him.
It's unfortunate that Kate had no sufficient service, he was starved and given half chances at best. The sad thing is, had this been Rooney, the media meltdown on how he should be dropped would be overwhelming. Double standards...
Difference is Rooney has failed for England for 10 years on the big stage. We want to give Kane a chance.
One game doesn't make him a poor player. The main problem for him yesterday was despite the "attacking" line-up that everybody was commenting on, we only had one goal scorer in the forward positions and two overall (I'm including Rooney). As soon as they saw the line-up Russia would have know it was a case of marking Kane in the middle with the other two forward players preferring to be out wide.
Bringing either Vardy or Rashford on would have helped Kane out as the Russian centre backs would have had to be watching for alternative players to be on the end of passes into the box. There were so many times yesterday where we got out wide in decent positions with only one player in the centre marked by 3 or 4 defenders. Like any player, create some space for him with tactics and he will do well, deprive him of space and he won't be able to do much about it.
Bringing either Vardy or Rashford on would have helped Kane out as the Russian centre backs would have had to be watching for alternative players to be on the end of passes into the box. There were so many times yesterday where we got out wide in decent positions with only one player in the centre marked by 3 or 4 defenders. Like any player, create some space for him with tactics and he will do well, deprive him of space and he won't be able to do much about it.
The problem with Kane is the classic problem you so often see with English talent, there are no middle ground. Talents can sway from being labeled the best thing since sliced bread to overrated in a matter of a few matches.
He is a very, very good striker. Can create, can finish, good in the air and a knack for being at the right place at the right time. But he is never a £75m striker or likely to be purchased by Real Madrid like you have seen some people post on here.
He is a very, very good striker. Can create, can finish, good in the air and a knack for being at the right place at the right time. But he is never a £75m striker or likely to be purchased by Real Madrid like you have seen some people post on here.
England have failed on the big stage for the past 20 years, the only two promising tournaments were 96 and 2004. One of which Rooney was pivotal. Then you have the qualifying goals on the small stage that nobody else could match Rooney on in the last 10 years.
KanE didnt fail last night, for me he didn't get the service but had that been Rooney he would've been slaughtered, nationally.
The problem for England is that two up front doesn't work. You either have to go with the diamond in order to have a player like Rooney linking the play but that lacks width. An ordinary 442 is a possibility but we're then overran in the middle.
Last night the wide players had plenty of space to work in. Lallana picked some good passes but lacks the end product. Sterling was poor and should have done better than what he had.
Vardy probably should be in, perhaps wife left like he's done for Leicester big we then need to get in behind teams and move the ball forward more quickly if he's going to be effective.
He's a top player in the making. Strong, two good feet and good movement. If he keeps scoring 25 goals a season in the PL then Europe's very top clubs will be after him.
Just to put it in context he's out scoring Aguero who I'm sure a lot of top clubs would like.
Am I?Actually it's 49 league goals, don't sell him short mate.
20 goals in 38 games is an excellent strike rate, not many strikers achieve that in the PL and he's done it two season running. As for your "stats", lol, as somebody famously said, "There are lies, damned lies, and statistics". So you are implying that all those chances fell to Harry Kane. I can think of plenty of chances through the season that fell to Chadli, Son, Eriksen, Lamela, Alli, and even a few that fell to others such as Mason, Dembele, Dier, Walker. You started your comment with "to put it in to context", then quote a stat which totally skews the context.
I didn't say it wasn't a good strike rate. Merely pointing out that when you compare him to others I personally don't think he's the Suarez, Aguero, Bale level player many believe.
When he scores against Wales we'll hear thats he's worth £100m+ again of course. Knee-jerk ism goes both ways.
Yes.
He's a good player but was pretty poor last night and should have been subbed off for Vardy. All of the England front 3 were guilty of some really poor decision making in and around the box.
I wasn't saying that we have to play two up front. Playing a system similar to yesterday with Vardy, Rashford or Sturridge making up at least one of the other positions in the front 3 keeps the pace, keeps the ability to take on a man and adds another player to actually finish the chances (and more importantly naturally make off the ball runs into the box).
Both Sterling and Lallana basically offered no apparent goal threat which meant Russia knew that they pretty much had to focus on Kane to nullify our goal threat.
Aguero played the equivalent of 11 less matches (in minutes) and scored only 1 less league goal this season. The big plus with Kane is that he never gets injured but will it last.
I'm not sure how many people have compared Kane to Aguero to be fair.
Kane had a bad game, simple as. It's not worth people's time or effort bleating on about hype/ability/stats going off one dodgy performance. He's not a world-beater but he is an excellent striker who has proved wrong the doubters who thought he was a one season wonder. He'll have much better games for England. From an attacking point of view we just made the wrong choices - the longer that goes on in the game the worse it tends to get.
I'm also not sure why Kane was taking corners though? Hodgson losing his marbles...
Kane had a bad game, simple as. It's not worth people's time or effort bleating on about hype/ability/stats going off one dodgy performance. He's not a world-beater but he is an excellent striker who has proved wrong the doubters who thought he was a one season wonder. He'll have much better games for England. From an attacking point of view we just made the wrong choices - the longer that goes on in the game the worse it tends to get.
I'm also not sure why Kane was taking corners though? Hodgson losing his marbles...
The problem for me is we lack genuine wide players. Vardy isn't a winger, not are Sturridge or Rashford. Townsend is a winger but they've left him at home. There's an argument that you have square pegs in round holes.
In that system it seems to me that those players are there to be a threat out wide, rather than play as wide forwards. Or at least that's what it looked like last night.
We have goal scorers on the bench but it seems we don't have a system to get them in. Vardy could play wide left - he's probably the most likely change but that could affect the balance of the side given that he's a forward and will play like one.
My point was that if he continues to score goals like he has been then then the top European sides will be interested - as Real were with Bale.
Whether he suffers from injuries is a moot point - it can happen to any player.
I'd take him here in a shot. Could be one of the best strikers in Europe for my money.