Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player

I'm not convinced he brings us a title in those 2-3 years. If I thought that was a high probability I would definitely be for it even if he was done as an elite striker in that time, because it would mean so much. That's probably the difference between RvP and Kane for me...this squad is just okay, it's not just about sticking the cherry on top.

I just think it takes far more than a striker, and if we buy Kane we are deferring other needs because he's so expensive. But more than the expense my major worry is that by the time we get round to ironing everything out we could be sat scratching our heads about why we bought an aging Kane who is now trending downwards when we could have taken a longer term perspective and bought someone who will grow as we build this squad. There's a real danger of short term thinking coming back to bite us on the ass as the squad and Harry Kane head in different directions. If we buy a younger striker I am confident that with the right pick everything will be working in tandem.

No, i think Kane would improve your side by quite a bit, the problem in winning the title is the league is stronger now, especially City is very hard to compete with over 38 games.

If you can sign him for a reasonable fee, i'd say its a no brainer.
 
Not really at best, they should be able to compete for top 4 with a striker like Kane. 80-100m will get you absolutely nothing when trying to replace your all time top goal scorer. Especially when you strengthen a league rival.

Let’s just assume that they will complete for top 4 with Kane next season as much as I can’t see this happening, is it really worth losing on a 100m asset in the following year?
 
No, i think Kane would improve your side by quite a bit, the problem in winning the title is the league is stronger now, especially City is very hard to compete with over 38 games.

If you can sign him for a reasonable fee, i'd say its a no brainer.
He would be quality but It's not going to be a reasonable fee though really is it, it will be upwards of 100mill without a doubt for a guy that could very well start to decline within 3 years, especially as he's not exactly the quickest as is
 
Let’s just assume that they will complete for top 4 with Kane next season as much as I can’t see this happening, is it really worth losing on a 100m asset in the following year?

You also have to factor in how difficult it will be for a new manager and a new DOF to identify that key Kane replacement just after walking in the door. That extra season buys them time to get their recruitment in order.

If I was them I'd sell this summer and try to sign a replacement, but it's a lot easier said than done. Especially if every club you approach knows you've just received that 80-100m.
 
Let’s just assume that they will complete for top 4 with Kane next season as much as I can’t see this happening, is it really worth losing on a 100m asset in the following year?
@sullydnl covers their predicament quite well. I think everyone is coming at this problem from a Manchester United fans perspective. I haven't seen a single spurs fan that are advocating selling Kane this summer for 80-100m
 
No, i think Kane would improve your side by quite a bit, the problem in winning the title is the league is stronger now, especially City is very hard to compete with over 38 games.

If you can sign him for a reasonable fee, i'd say its a no brainer.
I didn't say he wouldn't improve the team so I'm not sure what you're saying no to. It's obvious he would.

But the point you're making here is why I think the play should be to keep building up this squad under ten Hag with some patience. Not just throwing money at Harry Kane thinking he'll solve all our problems when he won't. City are very, very good. That's not to be defeatist, it is just realism, we are absolutely miles off that throughout our squad and what I want to see is joined up thinking between the manager and recruitment team so that we have a continually improving side. One that improves now, but also 3-4 years down the line when maybe we can exploit changes at City. Not racing to use Harry Kane's limited prime and then ending up the lame ducks in the transfer market again as we realise that shortcut wasn't oven ready in view of our squad, and now we've got several key players with old legs. Cue rebuild number 1000.

I would honestly rather blow our entire load on Osimhen, for the simple reason that while it compromises our moves in the current market, there will be a long term vision as a compensation for how expensive he is.

Harry Kane made perfect sense when City wanted him. What do you know...City making good moves in the market. He would have scored loads, maybe not as many as Haaland, but more creative and involved. He was the cherry on top for them. For us it just isn't like that at all, we're at least a few seasons away from a genuine challenge.
 
Who in their right mind is going to hang their hat on Son and Richarlison to replace his goals? Not only that, if you're selling to someone in the league, you're just pushing yourself further down.

100m is feck all to replace your all time top goalscorer and improve your squad. People are moaning that's our budget this summer.

I know they'd want it resolved, I'm just suggesting what decent manager is going to want to go there if they're going to sell their best player? There's a chance teams will move on and then at least they can attempt to convince him to stay with a new manager.
You aren't following.
Their squad is in need of major investment across all areas of the pitch, including GK. They will almost certainly need to sell in order to fix a lot of these issues, and £100m is a big opportunity cost of keeping Kane on for an extra year and seeing him leave for free anyway. That's the first point.

The second is the reputational damage. If Harry Kane is made to stay an extra year then he'll go for free next season, where Chelsea will almost certainly go in for him. Levy is a nutjob but he's not the nutjob that would risk seeing Kane go to Chelsea if he can stop it.

Finally I never said the new manager will need to hang their hat on Son and Richarlson alone. You did. I said that these players can actually find form under the new manager, they aren't shit players, they're actually very good and there is a plausible scenario where a replacement striker for Kane + better form from Richarlson/Son would equate to the goals he provided. £100m is actually a feckton of money to replace an all time goalscorer. Remember there is a budget of x + player sales. The budget of x won't fix the squad issues, but £100m + x will certainly go a long way.
 
Really hoping we sign a striker more mobile and pacey than Kane. I remember how I couldn't stand Berba because of this, and Berba was arguably faster than Kane.
 
I really hope we sign a striker more mobile and pacey than Kane. I remember how I couldn't stand Berba because of this, and Berba was arguably faster than Kane.

Totally agree. He's slow and old already and Levy will over charge. Get him on a free next year if you want. If he wasn't England captain we wouldn't be talking about him.
 
Totally agree. He's slow and old already and Levy will over charge. Get him on a free next year if you want. If he wasn't England captain we wouldn't be talking about him.
His type are world class until 33/34. He will age like Benzema imo
 
If we do get him I hope ETH drills it in his head that he needs to stay forward. We don't need him dropping deep when we have Bruno. Boggles my mind when I see Tottenham attacking and Kane is jogging back from midfield
 
It's wild that I've followed this guy's career from "let's not sign him yet because he might be a one season wonder and he needs to prove himself" to "let's not sign him now, he's too old and slow", and the whole time he's been banging in 20+ goals each season and consistently doing it in the big games. Fergie would have signed him in like 2016.
 
His type are world class until 33/34. He will age like Benzema imo

He's not world class now. Did you see the World Cup? He did nothing.

I don't doubt he'll score 20 goals a season if he comes. Just think we can do better.
 
His type are world class until 33/34. He will age like Benzema imo
I tend to agree. He is just a super skilled player at his position rather then reliant on pace. Almost 30 goals in the PL with such a mediocre team. He would be transformative for us.
 
His type is similar to RvP but he finished at 30
He's very much of the Lewa ilk for me. Ages like fine wine - his creativity is actually ridiculous and he's doing it in the toughest league.
 
I just think it takes far more than a striker, and if we buy Kane we are deferring other needs because he's so expensive. But more than the expense my major worry is that by the time we get round to ironing everything out we could be sat scratching our heads about why we bought an aging Kane who is now trending downwards when we could have taken a longer term perspective and bought someone who will grow as we build this squad. There's a real danger of short term thinking coming back to bite us on the ass as the squad and Harry Kane head in different directions. If we buy a younger striker I am confident that with the right pick everything will be working in tandem.
Beautifully put. On a free transfer or for a relatively cheap fee (like Lewandowski to Barcelona) signing him could be a shrewd move. For 100m, we are essentially banking our future on him, and on the hope he ages like Benzema as opposed to Sanchez, Rooney, or Van Persie.
 
Totally agree. He's slow and old already and Levy will over charge. Get him on a free next year if you want. If he wasn't England captain we wouldn't be talking about him.
A 30 goal Premier League striker with one year left on his contract would be talked about regardless of his nationality bro. :lol:
 
He's not world class now. Did you see the World Cup? He did nothing.

I don't doubt he'll score 20 goals a season if he comes. Just think we can do better.
I see what he does in England where we play though? And the record he set today?
 
Was he not?
Only because we won the title in his first season. Kane would come on a huge fee and likely won't win the title right away, so if his performance levels after year 1 are like RvP's, then it would be a terrible signing.
 
Stats says otherwise clearly?
I think his second season is underrated personally because of the situation the club was in. Plus wasn’t he bought with Ronaldo coming back in mind?
Kane is over his injury problems, has somehow found more goal scoring consistency while refining his heading game at 29. The man is somehow still improving.
Is it his age that scares you because it isn’t his performances on the pitch.
Also Kane is 2x the player RVP was anyway.
 
I think his second season is underrated personally because of the situation the club was in. Plus wasn’t he bought with Ronaldo coming back in mind?
Kane is over his injury problems, has somehow found more goal scoring consistency while refining his heading game at 29. The man is somehow still improving.
Is it his age that scares you because it isn’t his performances on the pitch.
Also Kane is 2x the player RVP was anyway.

Kane is fantastic but come on now this is a massive hyperbole
 
I think his second season is underrated personally because of the situation the club was in. Plus wasn’t he bought with Ronaldo coming back in mind?
Kane is over his injury problems, has somehow found more goal scoring consistency while refining his heading game at 29. The man is somehow still improving.
Is it his age that scares you because it isn’t his performances on the pitch.
Also Kane is 2x the player RVP was anyway.

No doubting Kane‘s ability on the pitch, however at his age it’s a very risky investment particularly when we have so many gaps to fill and we can revisit Kane the following year should he still be available IMO…
 
I think his second season is underrated personally because of the situation the club was in. Plus wasn’t he bought with Ronaldo coming back in mind?
Kane is over his injury problems, has somehow found more goal scoring consistency while refining his heading game at 29. The man is somehow still improving.
Is it his age that scares you because it isn’t his performances on the pitch.
Also Kane is 2x the player RVP was anyway.
Up until this last sentence I didn’t realize it was meant to be comedy.
 
Kane has literally everything over RVP? RVP was too hampered with injuries to be near this.

You can make an argument Kane is the better player, I've no problem at all with that but RVP was exceptional too. Kane definitely isn't 2x better than RVP was.
 
What exactly is the rationale behind people advocating 80-100 million on him this summer, anyway? What exactly are we really envisaging him doing next season that justifies this fee, when you can just get into his and his agent's ear and throw a huge paycheque at them both for the following summer? I can't get my head around that situation.
 
A 30 goal Premier League striker with one year left on his contract would be talked about regardless of his nationality bro. :lol:

There's no doubting he's good. Is he worth what he would cost? Is he that good? No. Will he have to be replaced in three years time. Yes.

Players at that age come at discounts for a reason. Get him on a free in 2024.
 
Up until this last sentence I didn’t realize it was meant to be comedy.
It’s not. It’s true and I’ve criticised Kane plenty of times on here so I’m not his biggest fan.
Kane has him on every attribute and by quite a distance.
Wherever he goes now we’ll be seeing him boss it ala Benzema or Lewa at the highest level until he’s 33/34. He’s never relied on pace and that’s resulted in the two records he set this season that aren’t reliant on what he did in his prime and eased into as he lost a step. Only an alien Haaland stops him adding a golden boot to that as well.
 
I agree with what some are saying, he's very good but a total waste of money.