Harry Kane | Bayern Munich player

Can see him sign a 3-year contract, come back to the PL at the end of the 2nd year at 32 years old and sort his unfinished business. He’ll win a couple of Bundesligas to try to shut everyone up, and Bayern will get about €40m.
 
Valencia Shin Crosses said:
For anyone still running with the fantasy of us signing Kane this summer, it's simple: Whatever Bayern end up paying (if they get a deal done), go ahead and add 30-40m on top of that for us. At the bare minimum. Levy has been quite clear that PL rivals can feck off trying to sign him so it would take a godfather/irresponsible offer to get him.

Just park this thread for Jan to see if we can agree with him on a free next summer hopefully.
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Oh yeah there would be a significant premium to be paid compared to what Levy would quote Bayern that's for certain
 
Abraxas said:
Weird to me. I'm not sure I'd be enthused about joining Bayern if I was Kane. Winning their 46th Bundesliga in a row. I mean really, if you don't win a CL which is always tough then you really haven't moved the needle. Would sooner run my contract down and have many top clubs interested.
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Agreed. I for sure won't blame him for doing it, but I'd see him making a different choice.

How does Levy have a stranglehold on Spurs? I don't know a lot about them. Should he be replaced?
 
Abraxas said:
Weird to me. I'm not sure I'd be enthused about joining Bayern if I was Kane. Winning their 46th Bundesliga in a row. I mean really, if you don't win a CL which is always tough then you really haven't moved the needle. Would sooner run my contract down and have many top clubs interested.
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This year Bayern won the league only by goal difference. We haven't won the league cup in 3 years. In terms of winning CL, I only see City and Real above us in terms of chances atm, both are not pursuing Kane.
 
He never should have signed that long contract. Anyone who plays under Levy has to know that he's a stubborn b@stard when it comes to negotiations and you're best off doing an Mbappe and adding only a year or two when extending contracts.

NYAS said:
Can see him sign a 3-year contract, come back to the PL at the end of the 2nd year at 32 years old and sort his unfinished business. He’ll win a couple of Bundesligas to try to shut everyone up, and Bayern will get about €40m.
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That's the funny thing. For all the idiots who think he can't be seen as a brilliant player because he hasn't won the league (at f**king Spurs), Bayern has the opposite problem. Winning the title at Bayern proves nothing but that's the logic they seem to go on (i.e. titles = good).
 
Wiesenlooser said:
This year Bayern won the league only by goal difference. We haven't won the league cup in 3 years. In terms of winning CL, I only see City and Real above us in terms of chances atm, both are not pursuing Kane.
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He signs for you once Levy is onside
 
Wiesenlooser said:
This year Bayern won the league only by goal difference. We haven't won the league cup in 3 years. In terms of winning CL, I only see City and Real above us in terms of chances atm, both are not pursuing Kane.
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Who cares what you win it by. You won it. Like you always do.

Which comes back to what I'm saying, there is nothing miraculous achieved for Kane if he goes and wins a title. It's silverware just to say he's won silverware rather than something particularly impressive.

Winning a Spanish title or joining another PL club and winning a title when his contract expires would seem to me a much more engaging challenge than playing in a league where you may as well engrave Bayern's name on the trophy in August.

I don't think a league cup changes much, the only thing that would really impress is winning a CL.
 
Andycoleno9 said:
And Kane can say no to Bayern. So it will up to Levy same amount of money from United or lose Kane next summer for free.

People and media are really making Levy as some kind of boogeyman. Levy this, levy that and shit.
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And Levy has been quite clear that he'd rather lose him for free than sell to us for anything less than a King's ransom. I don't think he's a boogeyman at all, I think he's an incompetent cnut. But he's the shot caller there, and history tells us he'd rather hold on to a player for too long than sell
 
NYAS said:
Can see him sign a 3-year contract, come back to the PL at the end of the 2nd year at 32 years old and sort his unfinished business. He’ll win a couple of Bundesligas to try to shut everyone up, and Bayern will get about €40m.
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well, if the two clowns are still in charge at United, we'll offer closer to £90m
 
Part of me wants Kane to stay one more season at Spurs and if he's still scoring goals, get him free this time next year. I really hope he's oe of those who doesn't really want to play abroad (a la Gerrard, Robson)
 
I don't see Levy got many options here. He doesn't sell to EPL clubs and from the big continental clubs, which can also afford him, only Bayern is interested.

According to Bild und Sportbild, which have usually excellent connections to Bayern, the club didn't submit a new improved offer.

Levy will drag this transfer saga anyway til the end of the window. Bayern should just stick to their offer. Take it or lose the player on a free next season.
 
B. Munich said:
I don't see Levy got many options here. He doesn't sell to EPL clubs and from the big continental clubs, which can also afford him, only Bayern is interested.

According to Bild und Sportbild, which have usually excellent connections to Bayern, the club didn't submit a new improved offer.

Levy will drag this transfer saga anyway til the end of the window. Bayern should just stick to their offer. Take it or lose the player on a free next season.
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The new offer made no sense to me, this sounds right. adding only 10m to the offer was never going to get Levy on the phone. Add to that Levy is apparently pissed about how Bayern have gone on about this, he will now ask for a stupid fee.

I feel it will take a British transfer record to get him. But who is willing to do that? Mind you, if Bayern had a Kane level striker in those games against City, they might not still have beaten them but they would have challenged them a lot more. Bayern was in control for most of those games and had enough chances, just no one to put them away.
 
B. Munich said:
I don't see Levy got many options here. He doesn't sell to EPL clubs and from the big continental clubs, which can also afford him, only Bayern is interested.

According to Bild und Sportbild, which have usually excellent connections to Bayern, the club didn't submit a new improved offer.

Levy will drag this transfer saga anyway til the end of the window. Bayern should just stick to their offer. Take it or lose the player on a free next season.
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He could just keep him. Assuming they do sell him, they need to spend big to replace him. He scored 28 goals last season in an average side. That equates to a lot of points. When he leaves they will probably need two new strikers and a good creator. If they are lucky they might find that for 120-150M.

They can't afford to let him go for anything less than 80M pounds, and even that is a bit underwhelming for arguably the most complete striker in Europe right now. Levy will drag this out until someone, most likely us, come at him with a much higher bid than the 70M euros Bayern are willing to pay, because that will give Spurs the funds to bring in several new players who could potentially improve Spurs.
 
RedStarUnited said:
The new offer made no sense to me, this sounds right. adding only 10m to the offer was never going to get Levy on the phone.
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Agree, that's why 2 usually well informed newspapers question the news about the second offer.


RedStarUnited said:
Add to that Levy is apparently pissed about how Bayern have gone on about this, he will now ask for a stupid fee.
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I read this now several times on redcafe. Still I don't know what Bayern did to allegedly piss Levy off. Anyway I don't think Levy's feelings will play a significant role in this deal.


RedStarUnited said:
I feel it will take a British transfer record to get him.
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I hope and I'm pretty confident our board isn't that dumb to splash out that much money. 1 year contract, 30 years old and no competition....70 million Euro plus some add ons is a fair price.

I think time will be the deciding factor. Kane won't sign a new deal, other clubs (Real) aren't interested in Kane and Levy won't sell to another EPL club, he doesn't have any other options than to accept the offer or let Kane leave on a free transfer 12 months later. 70+ million euros are a lot of money for a club like Spurs. I'm pretty sure Levy will give in once the end of window is nearing.
 
LordSpud said:
I feel a gazumping coming on later in the window
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I think Spurs think they can persuade him to resign. If they aren't getting anywhere with it by August, he will be sold.

They'd obviously rather him go to Bayern, so we will have to offer 10m more I imagine.
 
Laurencio said:
He could just keep him. Assuming they do sell him, they need to spend big to replace him. He scored 28 goals last season in an average side. That equates to a lot of points. When he leaves they will probably need two new strikers and a good creator. If they are lucky they might find that for 120-150M.
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You point will only be valid, if Kane signs a new deal, which I doubt.
Yes they will have to spend probably most of the money to replace him but it's still better than having to spend big 12 months later without having the 70+million euros for Kane.
 
If we have a new owner in the next weeks, I'd expect him to be our player. They usually like to do some major singings at the start, and him to us would be as major as it gets, would instantly make us a PL challenger.
 
70m? No chance levy accepts that. He wants 100m just to open negotiations.
 
tidraKS said:
If we have a new owner in the next weeks, I'd expect him to be our player. They usually like to do some major singings at the start, and him to us would be as major as it gets, would instantly make us a PL challenger.
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I don't think so. They've zero interest in selling to Man United.
 
tidraKS said:
If we have a new owner in the next weeks, I'd expect him to be our player. They usually like to do some major singings at the start, and him to us would be as major as it gets, would instantly make us a PL challenger.
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No chance of a new owner in the next weeks. Transfer window closes in 7 weeks, a takeover won't be completed before then.
 
B. Munich said:
You point will only be valid, if Kane signs a new deal, which I doubt.
Yes they will have to spend probably most of the money to replace him but it's still better than having to spend big 12 months later without having the 70+million euros for Kane.
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No it won't. Kane's value to Spurs is his goals, not his monetary value. If Spurs doesn't get what they need for him it is far more beneficial to keep him, add a bit of talent and go for a trophy/top4 finish. Spurs would need 2-3 quality players to replace Harry Kane this season, and if no one is willing to pay that, then why should they sell? Build the team up a bit more this season, try to get the most our of him, and splash the cash next season on a new striker when he leaves for a free anyway. Maybe an a academy product will be ready then, or a new talent will emerge. At 70M euros there is no benefit to Spurs.

Unless Spurs get enough to cover most of what they lose, they have no incentive to sell.
 
Abraxas said:
Weird to me. I'm not sure I'd be enthused about joining Bayern if I was Kane. Winning their 46th Bundesliga in a row. I mean really, if you don't win a CL which is always tough then you really haven't moved the needle. Would sooner run my contract down and have many top clubs interested.
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I think he's making it very clear that he doesn't want to stay at Spurs under any circumstances.

I don't understand what Levy is thinking by not selling him to Bayern?
 
I know everyones whinging about Levy but I think he's playing it well

get Bayern lined up, for a decent-ish fee

then once the takeover happens can ask for a ridiculous fee from United, if we say no he'll go to Bayern
 
leaving on a free next year is the best solution. we get him for nothing, Kane gets to stay in England, and Levy gets laughed at for throwing away his prized asset for nothing.

win win win
 
Tarrou said:
I know everyones whinging about Levy but I think he's playing it well

get Bayern lined up, for a decent-ish fee

then once the takeover happens can ask for a ridiculous fee from United, if we say no he'll go to Bayern
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We're not going for him this year, and the take over seems to be dead in the water anyway.
 
pcaming said:
We're not going for him this year, and the take over seems to be dead in the water anyway.
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I can't tell if posts like these are wumming or not

how can you honestly think they'll spend a year squeezing Qatar and then let them go off and buy another PL club is beyond me
 
Tarrou said:
I know everyones whinging about Levy but I think he's playing it well

get Bayern lined up, for a decent-ish fee

then once the takeover happens can ask for a ridiculous fee from United, if we say no he'll go to Bayern
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We have a huge credit line, if Kane becomes available we could afford him regardless of takeover situation. It's a matter of priorities. The reports about more than half the budget being gone on Mount is utter nonsense.
 
Laurencio said:
We have a huge credit line, if Kane becomes available we could afford him regardless of takeover situation. It's a matter of priorities. The reports about more than half the budget being gone on Mount is utter nonsense.
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Yeah I agree we could afford him, I just don't think we will until we have Qatar money (if at all), due to the realistic budget constraints of being over-leveraged and poorly run for over a decade.
 
Laurencio said:
No it won't. Kane's value to Spurs is his goals, not his monetary value. If Spurs doesn't get what they need for him it is far more beneficial to keep him, add a bit of talent and go for a trophy/top4 finish. Spurs would need 2-3 quality players to replace Harry Kane this season, and if no one is willing to pay that, then why should they sell? Build the team up a bit more this season, try to get the most our of him, and splash the cash next season on a new striker when he leaves for a free anyway. Maybe an a academy product will be ready then, or a new talent will emerge. At 70M euros there is no benefit to Spurs.

Unless Spurs get enough to cover most of what they lose, they have no incentive to sell.
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This logically makes no sense. If you can't replace him now, how can you replace him next season with even less money available?
 
Laurencio said:
We have a huge credit line, if Kane becomes available we could afford him regardless of takeover situation. It's a matter of priorities. The reports about more than half the budget being gone on Mount is utter nonsense.
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And you're in the know here? It's like saying don't listen to those reports listen to me instead. We've already enquired about Kane before anything else and quickly dropped interest, that was well reported, so why didn't we use the credit line there? You sound more like you're trying to convince yourself if anything.

Unless we pay a ridiculously stupid fee for a 30 year old, which would be criminal on our part, I cannot see us signing Harry Kane this year and considering we are spending elsewhere the club seems to think this is the case too
 
Levy won't sell him to anyone, he's not rejecting those bids to get more money.

Bayern are wasting their time here.
 
Wiesenlooser said:
This logically makes no sense. If you can't replace him now, how can you replace him next season with even less money available?
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At that point you are forced to replace him. Right now you can add 3-4 players for with your budget, and try to do as well as possible. Kane is a 100M striker, so you effectively have 3-4 additions + a world class striker.

Next season you still have the 3-4 additions and can blow a large chunk of the budget on a striker, and maybe keeping Kane gave you some success. Which increases the budget.

If you sell Kane for less than his value you have a 100M hole to fill for 60M and can't afford the really good players, who may or may not even work out. Effectively making you weaker this season and potentially putting you in a more difficult situation next season in terms of attracting the right type of players.
 
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