Has political correctness actually gone mad?

Wait, having an irrational fear for something in particular is being disabled too?

Autism is a disability, stop acting like a buffoon because I know you aren't one.
 
The whole applause being triggering thing had nothing to do with autism when it first started back in 2015. Was basically just about loud noises making NUS feminists anxious.

Kinda seems like they realised it made them look pathetic and are now putting autism up as the major driver. Which rings hollow because I bet if you canvassed autistic student opinions on the matter they'd not want a ban on applause, and would mirror the opinions of the autistic girl in the BBC interview.
 
The whole applause being triggering thing had nothing to do with autism when it first started back in 2015. Was basically just about loud noises making NUS feminists anxious.

Kinda seems like they realised it made them look pathetic and are now putting autism up as the major driver. Which rings hollow because I bet if you canvassed autistic student opinions on the matter they'd not want a ban on applause, and would mirror the opinions of the autistic girl in the BBC interview.

Who is they?
 
The whole applause being triggering thing had nothing to do with autism when it first started back in 2015. Was basically just about loud noises making NUS feminists anxious.

Kinda seems like they realised it made them look pathetic and are now putting autism up as the major driver. Which rings hollow because I bet if you canvassed autistic student opinions on the matter they'd not want a ban on applause, and would mirror the opinions of the autistic girl in the BBC interview.

I posted a link to the 2015 incident on page 1 of this thread. All they said was "triggering anxiety" Definitely possible the people feeling anxious were on the autistic spectrum.
 
I posted a link to the 2015 incident on page 1 of this thread. All they said was "triggering anxiety" Definitely possible the people feeling anxious were on the autistic spectrum.

Just seems to me that student politicking and students with autism would make a Venn diagram with very little overlap. Autistic students just have too much sense to get into that nonsense.

Especially if we're talking about an NUS womens conference, when autism has an 80/20 male/female split.
 
Autistic students just have too much sense to get into that nonsense.
autism is a spectrum disability that makes people unable to socialise, it is not the narrow disability that a minority of computer engineers have but that is disproportionately represented in media


Especially if we're talking about an NUS womens conference, when autism has an 80/20 male/female split.
even assuming that the underreporting of autism in females barely makes a dent in the the ratio 20% of women having it isn't statistically insignificant
 

It's a wank 'study' and the speed by which it's been gleefully picked up by some is, well, perhaps more indicative of a problem than what the authors found. The authors, and especially the right wing twitter bods who are gleefully sharing it don't seem to understand how peer review works, but yes, congratulations, wank research done in bad faith can get published. I suspect that's true for all and every field, but we don't know, because they didn't have a control, because it's shitty research done (oh irony of ironies) to prove a political point.





But hey, maybe the social experiment here is the hypocrisy of attempts to 'own the libs' by doing exactly what you're accusing them of doing?
 
But hey, maybe the social experiment here is the hypocrisy of attempts to 'own the libs' by doing exactly what you're accusing them of doing?

Wasn't their aim to show the amount of shite that get published? Not like they can write good research and prove the point by that if so.
 
Wasn't their aim to show the amount of shite that get published? Not like they can write good research and prove the point by that if so.

No their aim was a takedown of sub disciplines they don't like using pseudo-academic methods. At least, I kinda hope it was because, if this research is genuinely indicative of how these people conduct research – or think research should be conducted – then well, feck me, it says a lot about them.

I've done a brief check on the authors, none of whom seem to have any publication history or university affiliation, although Helen Pluckrose's academia.edu page is accessible and she publishes in a related field to mine. If the papers listed there weren't crafted for the study then I suspect she just is not a very good researcher.

If you wanted to demonstrate that a load of shite gets published (a problem that is probably genuine in every single academic discipline, especially in the niche journals that they got published in despite their bogus claims that they were all 'leading'), then there are ways to do it that don't make your findings absolutely meaningless.

Again, all this shows to me, really, is that these three don't understand what peer review is.
 
No their aim was a takedown of sub disciplines they don't like using pseudo-academic methods. At least, I kinda hope it was because, if this research is genuinely indicative of how these people conduct research – or think research should be conducted – then well, feck me, it says a lot about them.

I've done a brief check on the authors, none of whom seem to have any publication history or university affiliation, although Helen Pluckrose's academia.edu page is accessible and she publishes in a related field to mine. If the papers listed there weren't crafted for the study then I suspect she just is not a very good researcher.

If you wanted to demonstrate that a load of shite gets published
(a problem that is probably genuine in every single academic discipline, especially in the niche journals that they got published in despite their bogus claims that they were all 'leading'), then there are ways to do it that don't make your findings absolutely meaningless.

Again, all this shows to me, really, is that these three don't understand what peer review is.

That definitely seems to be their intention. Specifically that a load of shite gets published, providing it fits in with a prevailing orthodoxy. But yeah, they really missed a trick by not providing any controls. Seems obvious that they should have also tried to get an identical number of misogynist, uber-conservative articles published at the same time. Otherwise they're using bad science to expose bad science.
 
Problem with fields of study in general is that there's too many of em imho. People do research into topic so irrelevant it's beyond me anyone is even paying em for it.
 
Problem with fields of study in general is that there's too many of em imho. People do research into topic so irrelevant it's beyond me anyone is even paying em for it.
Meanwhile excellent scientists engaged in genuine medical research are having to spend 50% of their time trying to get funding for their projects. It's an unfair world.
 
Using the word 'research' in association with any of those mickey mouse fields is a pretty grievous insult to scientists.

The amount wasted on salaries of identity studies/critical theory profs in America alone is mind boggling. Put all of that money on something with actual value to mankind thanks. Like cancer research.
 
They should keep Maslow's pyramid in mind when deciding what to give research grants to.

Fix basic human needs and go from there,
 
Wasn't their aim to show the amount of shite that get published?
They’re calling it an expose of left wing academics because they’re getting a load of left-leaning drivel published (peer reviewed by academics)
these are different things, if your aim is to show how stupid left wing academics are you do an academic review of their stupid ideas

if your aim is to prove that journals accept fraudulent research then yeah, no shit, there are already experiments showing the same thing, this isn't a ground breaking expose
 
Problem with fields of study in general is that there's too many of em imho. People do research into topic so irrelevant it's beyond me anyone is even paying em for it.

Probably a good job you aren't in charge of funding then.

If we had stopped funding of basic research, based on your ill-informed opinions, we would have an iron lung that was solar powered but we would have no polio vaccine.
 
So this part: https://mashable.com/2018/06/07/google-salad-emoji/?europe=true

is actually true? That's completely insane :lol:
is it actually completely insane? like, google changing their salad emoji on their android devices is completely insane?

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despite multiple versions of googles salad emoji still existing as seen above, would it really be completely insane if they only let you use one without eggs?
 
Probably a good job you aren't in charge of funding then.

If we had stopped funding of basic research, based on your ill-informed opinions, we would have an iron lung that was solar powered but we would have no polio vaccine.
While I wholeheartedly agree with it being good that I'm not in charge of it, how are you figuring I'd deem a polio vaccine irrelevant?

Studies into stuff I'd say are mostly irrelevant:

Do Woodpeckers Get Headaches?
The answer is no, they don't, because they have small heads and a sturdy beak.


@Silva
These emoji's are not insane in the slightest, the fact that anyone cares is. As if anyone is offended by any sort of salad emoji. Or perhaps my jaded and cynical soul has gone numb to the point that I no longer feel any sort of emotion over emojis.
 
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the yellow and brown parts on the first one don't look like anything i've ever seen in a salad
Now THAT's completely insane you have to admit. Who puts kiwi's in a salad.


This one's an amazing (harhar) actual study too:

1. Spiderman doesn’t exist.
After an extensive analysis, researchers at Cambridge University have concluded that the larger a person is, the more adhesives he would need to stick to a wall, making it virtually impossible for a normal sized human being to have the characteristics of Spiderman. “If a human, for example, wanted to climb up a wall the way a gecko does, we’d need impractically large sticky feet -- and shoes in European size 145 or US size 114,” saidWalter Federle, senior author also from Cambridge’s Department of Zoology. As for Batman, the jury’s still out.

Oh or:

3. Playing Tetris for just three minutes stops your craving for sex, alcohol and food.
 
These emoji's are not insane in the slightest, the fact that anyone cares is. As if anyone is offended by any sort of salad emoji. Or perhaps my jaded and cynical soul has gone numb to the point that I no longer feel any sort of emotion over emojis.

I actually take a real good look if it is some type of parody website like the onion these days. Some of the stuff is hardly believable.
 
That definitely seems to be their intention. Specifically that a load of shite gets published, providing it fits in with a prevailing orthodoxy. But yeah, they really missed a trick by not providing any controls. Seems obvious that they should have also tried to get an identical number of misogynist, uber-conservative articles published at the same time. Otherwise they're using bad science to expose bad science.

Or to get equally bogus papers published in different subfields and across disciplines.

Bad research happens, bad papers get through peer review, and there probably is a trend towards orthodoxy in the peer review process (especially in small subfields where the number of people able to review things are quite small). Most of those problems are already known about, but they're not only problems of this field.

Falsifying data (as they have in places) and writing articles which correctly and coherently analyse your false data to point at peer review as inherently flawed is just a waste of everyones time. Some of their other examples are more worrying, even if they're little more than anecdotal evidence, but we also know that lots of shit gets published in niche journals, and that not all publications are equal.

It's simply a hit piece and nothing more. The sad fact is they wasted a year of their life on it.

And another example of why the study and write up was terrible:

 
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If everything else was equal, 37% of millennial men said they would prefer a male candidate, compared to 16% of women who said they’d prefer a woman; 59% of all millennials said a candidate’s gender, all else equal, doesn’t matter, including 68% of women.

About one-third of all millennial men (36%) said they would prefer a white political candidate, if all else was equal. Only 11% of women surveyed held that belief. That question also comes with a major partisan divide: 42% of Republicans said they’d prefer a white candidate, compared to 22% of Democrats. And while 51% of millennials said it wouldn’t matter to them if, all else being equal, a candidate was straight or LGBTQ, a slim majority of men (53%) said they’d prefer a heterosexual candidate.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...are-largely-open-to-socialists-new-poll-finds