Yeah, 'There's only one Yorkshire Ripper' was a sidesplitter... 
Has political correctness actually gone mad?
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Have to admit, I’m with you on this one. The idea that actual genitalia should be perceived as not necessarily one sex or the other is absolutely fecking bonkers.
Usual caveats here that this might be a fuss about a very isolated/rare incident being blown up out of all proportion for the sake of Twitter kudos.
And the blackface one.The waxing kerfuffle has generated a quality hashtag.
I don’t get why he can’t just ignore those insufferable twats.
Probably got a lot to do with him being a bit of an insufferable twat himself.
This is true. I don't get why he highlights the 4 people offended by what he's done, then paints himself as some kind of 'free speech Henry the fifth' for standing up to them.
Actually yeah, it's the insufferable twat thing again, isn't it.
If someone is calling out right wing twats, he's praise worthy. But if he's calling left wing twats then grrrr... insufferable twat.
He’s a bit of a twat anyway tbf, I’m not even getting political. I say that as a fan.
Actually this is more of a left vs left bunfight. With right wing commentators gleefully doing the sort of virtue signalling they pour scorn on when it’s done by anyone on the left.
Older generations get called out on sexism and racism, wonder what us 40-somethings will be pilloried for in 10 years' time? @Pogue Mahone
My friends and I keep asking ourselves this. My answer is basically having female athletes wear glorified bikinis when the compete. Why do they have to be a two-piece? And, having been a gymnast myself, the leotards the girls wear from early ages with skin coloured areas mimicking nudity are just so uncalled for. There was once a front cover of the British Gymnastics Association magazine that had clear pubic hear visible! Cycling shorts would have no impact on performance just like a full ‘singlet’ and shorts wouldn’t affect an athlete’s performance.
I know that, but the point I was making is that both in this forum and generally out there (i.e. twitter-sphere, msm etc.) when someone picks on right wing nutters they're usually lauded or at worst ignored as yet another simply normal person. Which is good, obviously. But when someone picks on the far left, it seems to be accompanied with statements indicating that he probably shouldn't. It seems that because opinions coming out of the far left are from historically oppressed groups of people, there's a hesitation from people in the middle ground to vocally criticise and mock these opinions when they deserve it.
Gervais might be to some an insufferable twat regardless of politics, but somehow that opinion doesn't seem to be voiced after he's taken his 100th swipe at Trump per se. And I can understand the whole "punch up, not down" kind of thing, especially with right-wing twats in power. But still....
That's my impression anyway.
Gervais has a history of making a mountain out of a molehill though. He sits on twitter and engages people who find his jokes offensive. They're as bad as eachother.
all you have to is search @rickygervais, [rightwing internet slang] into the twitter search bar and you'll find plenty of it, but that doesn't get traction because you'd have to be pretty pathetic to care what no name twitter users think
This will definitely be one of them. There was a spotlight on this in Norway during the summer, because of pictures like this:
Those are the official beach volleyball uniforms for the men's and women's national teams, and they are mandatory in international competition. The Norwegian organizations are against this, but there's nothing they can do about it since the rules are set above a national level. In the future, people will look at that picture and wonder what the hell we were thinking.
They will. Maybe.This will definitely be one of them. There was a spotlight on this in Norway during the summer, because of pictures like this:
In the future, people will look at that picture and wonder what the hell we were thinking.
Still, the only reason I’d watch women’s beach volleyball is for those outfits.
Was that out loud?
Those are nice tank-tops, I agree. Although I think their shorts could be a little shorter.
I reckon ballerinas should wear trench coats and DM's and male dancers should definitely do something about that disgusting bump.
Crikey! A semi-sensible post. As someone who stands firmly in the middle ground I look around in amazement at how stupidly entrenched the left and right are in their rabid sense of self justification and their ridiculous, and often, misguided attacks on each other.
The centre is a lonely place right now, and I find myself almost politically homeless.
My two points of observation:
- Not all people who sit on the right are nasty racists.
- The extreme left are a more aggressive and abusive bunch of bullies than the right.
Surely in these days of social change a true centrist party is exactly what is needed? Everyone, left and right have to concede some ground otherwise we'll split open as a nation.
What the actual feck?
It’s like he suddenly forgot what thread he was posting in.
Just the way I see it Pogue Mahone. I'm trying to be totally objective about it. I'm no fan of Boris but nor am I a fan of Corbyn or McDonnell. Nobody knows how Boris will do at this point. You certainly don't. He may be a disaster but he may not. Only time will tell.
Maybe.
You don't need to know much about Johnson to know what a terrible appointment he is. I've got a stack of cv's on my desk from job applicants at the place I work. If any of them had "fired twice, for lying" in their employment history then they would be going in the shredder, pronto.
That sounds eerily similar to what people said about Drumpf when he was elected.
I agree 100% but lying is something I would willingly accuse most of the politicians sitting near the top of their parties. Anyway, sorry I didn't mean to pull this thread off course.
Nope. I'm no Trump fan either. I'm just someone who looks at politicians on the left and right, comedians on the left and right and any other person slinging mud from either position and wonder what they're actually doing to better the situation.
A centrist is someone who stands for nothing but pontificates that "we need to find some common ground" which is the quintessential empty catchphrase.
And the bolded is just straight up nonsense.
Sorry Siorac, I don't agree. I feel like I stand for plenty and I like to think centrists are actually realists who understand the need for compromise. The world is a complicated place and one single vision (left or right) will not work for everyone. We are in a serious 'Thought Police' age where both sides are trying to bend the will of the other to match it's own instead of trying to forge a path that works in some semblance for both.
Just the way I see it. From my point of view the far left are no better in some respects than the far right. Totally intolerant and aggressive.
The far right are worse because they pose a legitimate terrorist threat, in the UK at least. There's no real left equivalent to that. They certainly can be bloody irritating though.
Indeed. And when people get overzealous and aggressive, I tend to be more forgiving of the ones doing it on behalf of marginalised groups, rather than those doing it against them.
The left's intolerance is largely directed towards those that are intolerant towards others. And as Karl Popper argued, intolerance of intolerance is necessary if you want a tolerant society.
This. Exactly this. The far right is outraged because disgusting poor, gay and brown people can walk down the same street as them. The far left is outraged that the far right can be such ridiculous hateful ignorant fecking bigots.
Big difference.
If you want to be right wing, fine, at least admit that you're a selfish cnut who doesn't like to share.
Yeah, what has ever been achieved in politics by trying to find some common ground between opposing viewpoints?
That's nice but in a lot of issues, there is no "compromise" or a "path that works for both". Let me illustrate with an admittedly extreme example.
If one side says all blue-eyed people should be exterminated and the other side says no blue-eyed people should be exterminated then what is the centrist solution, what is the compromise? Kill only half of them? Don't kill any but maim them for life or enslave them?
Or, to bring a real life example, look at the American Civil War. Imagine an abolitionist who believes that owning people is wrong. For them, a compromise that says owning "some people in certain places" is OK is not acceptable. There is no compromise to be had there.
This is from the US but then most of the examples of extreme PC in this thread come from there, too: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...rists-2018-were-almost-all-right-wing/581284/
The extreme left are mean to people on the internet. The extreme right commit terrorist acts.
To try to achieve a compromise, you first need to have a viewpoint. If you are a centrist whose sole political view is "we should all love each other" that's worthless. It's great for living your everyday life though so there's that.
Saying that "we need to find the common ground" is the politics equivalent of a football fan saying "we need more desire and passion!!!". It's meaningless. Compromise is to be had on specific issues, and only if those issues are not core to someone's value system. A die-hard fundamentalist evangelical is not going to compromise on abortion. They have to be beaten at the elections to make sure they don't get to influence policy. And for that, you need to stand for something.