Shitting on his critics 
Seriously though, he's quite good for counter-attacking football. And presses very well from the front.
Seriously though, he's quite good for counter-attacking football. And presses very well from the front.
Hating Lingard
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
I can't believe people still can't admit they're wrong when it comes to him. Shame, and I don't really get why. He's doing a fantastic job for the team most people on here support, and yet they can't just give him the credit he's earning.
Some players will never get the credit they deserve. Lingard is a great player and could become something big if he finds stability.
Haters will always hate. Vultures on here always circling some players....
Hes been great this past week. Lets hope he keeps it up.
Consistency is his biggest problem.
Consistency is his biggest problem.
Like I said. He's ok
If MK works as hard as Lingard, he can be the best #10 in the world. Lingard shows him what he needs to do.
both left ones!
Oucchh!!
6 goals, 4 assists. Last season 5 goals and 4 assists in total. No reason why he can't get to 20 goals + assists for the season which would be a great output
He's quickly becoming one of my favourite players in the current squad. 100% commitment, and now he's delivering goals and assists to go along with his work rate.
He was always a good option for us, but a very easy target at the same time, some of the stick he got when he signed his new contract was shocking, hopefully Mkhitaryan is cleaning his boots tonight..
He's been on fire lately! Offers much more than Mhki atm.
It's just his end product, today he got it right. Makes me so happy he is proving people wrong. Some of the shite posted about him was ridiculous.
Not true!! His biggest problems are that he does not have an exotic name and he has an active social life. Already has better stats and impact than Mata and Mkhitaryan this season and in less minutes.
The consistent thing is people slagging him off. He is a good player who does a great job when called up and maybe if given the chance can displace Mkhitaryan and even Mata
Keeping this up will prove a lot of people wrong, including me. Didn't think he had this kind of performance in him, let alone the end product.
What a load of nonsense. His name and his social life are completely irrelevant to anything
Lingard along with Pogba's return have added a new dimension to our play on the counter. We look a menace anytime we get space to run into.
He deserves to play ahead of both of them at the moment, I don't think anyone could reasonably argue otherwise.
Like most of our players. He would be a veryimportant player playing week after week at a smaller club. You need to be very feckung good to get into the United squad. Players need consecutive games, managers trust and tactics to suit their style. He's getting all that at the minute. I knew he was a clever player but glad to see him going up a level. That's what the manager sees every day in training. That's why he has a big contract. He can be as annoying as he likes off the pitch if delivers the good on it!
Sign him up Barnsley
Where are all the Lingardist's now?
I can even forget his shitty celebrations.
I’ve always fought his corner when people on here have been slating him, saying he’s only playing because he’s local, youth player, stealing a living etc...
But, let’s not get ahead of ourselves, he’s playing well and is a great option to have in the squad but reading some of these posts you’d think he’s a world class player and is in the elite bracket.
I also love his social media antics, imagine he’s great fun behind the scenes and is good pals with the rest of the squad, and let’s not underestimate the impact of that.
However, whilst Delighted with the win today and another good performance from Jesse I think we all know his ability levels and should keep things in context.
But, let’s not get ahead of ourselves, he’s playing well and is a great option to have in the squad but reading some of these posts you’d think he’s a world class player and is in the elite bracket.
I also love his social media antics, imagine he’s great fun behind the scenes and is good pals with the rest of the squad, and let’s not underestimate the impact of that.
However, whilst Delighted with the win today and another good performance from Jesse I think we all know his ability levels and should keep things in context.
Love the little guy. He's the new Park
Yes it is really crazy how easy people jump on players. Fellaini, Lingard, Rojo, Smalling, Young, Jones have all been scapegoats. It seems people always need to find someone to blame rather than focus on the team.
Most of these scapegoats have shut people up though recently with all of these players having done really well this season not just in performance, but actually scoring goals and getting assists, or conceding few goals which seem to be the main metric that these type of people use when they judge.
Lindelöf playing really well now too. Not sure who people will target. Maybe Rojo again. Mkhitaryan could be the next one, but I hope he find some good form again soon. Mata and Herrera seem to be key targets now as well, but I hope and think Herrera can have a big games against City.
Chill mate. I have always wanted him to do well. Hes having an ok season and an excellent week. Lets hope it continues.
There are times when people actually can see that a particular person is grossly under-talented to be wearing a United shirt. Some times people are too quick to make judgments about players but players like Lingard, Welbeck, Cleverly, Smalling, Young who have (had in cases of Cleverly and Wlebeck) been around United for a long time with little to account for that duration in terms of stats/performances, then fans are justified to call them out as being bs players. One, two, three, four performance don't suddenly establish a hitherto mediocre player as a star or someone worthy of starting for United.
It is true with every club and every fan.
Why do people constantly need to take the high ground in debates like this?
He's had some good games in his career and he's had some bloody poor ones as well. His strengths are obvious: he's got solid acceleration, is dangerous on the counter, has excellent movement and presses well high up the pitch. He showed that today and we all know that.
He's also had games where his feet have been like ping pong machines, his touch is erratic and he doesn't demand the ball enough.
He's had a couple of the former games in a row now but we've also seen plenty of the latter. He needs to be more consistent. I don't get all of this 'I told you so mentality' that seems to take over football fans these days, "where are the Lingard haters now', do me a favour. I've always been a fan of the lad but you can see why people get frustrated after some of his performances over the last couple of years. Two good displays don't make him a world beater; two poor ones don't make him the worst player in the world. It's all relative.
He's had some good games in his career and he's had some bloody poor ones as well. His strengths are obvious: he's got solid acceleration, is dangerous on the counter, has excellent movement and presses well high up the pitch. He showed that today and we all know that.
He's also had games where his feet have been like ping pong machines, his touch is erratic and he doesn't demand the ball enough.
He's had a couple of the former games in a row now but we've also seen plenty of the latter. He needs to be more consistent. I don't get all of this 'I told you so mentality' that seems to take over football fans these days, "where are the Lingard haters now', do me a favour. I've always been a fan of the lad but you can see why people get frustrated after some of his performances over the last couple of years. Two good displays don't make him a world beater; two poor ones don't make him the worst player in the world. It's all relative.
People are taking the high ground, as some have labeled him a nothing player, only part of the squad as he's a local lad, a Cnut, not even a lower premiership player and shite. Obviously his current form is something to be lauded. He's a good little player.
Some people just don't like him and rubbing their noses in their hatred of a player should be enjoyed greatly. I've never seen anyone stating he's a worldie, so maybe those rubbing the noses in it now are a little more refined, in their entitled celebration of his last few games.
The last 2 games gave managed to silence the doubters.
What's good is that the options are there in the AM position which should add some impetus to those who aren't performing to get some form back.
What's even better is Lingard is the opposite to Mata, so when a game needs changing a straight swap can yield a significant difference in style.
Its a position we a lacking true class. No one at present could be considered a stand out best in one of the 3 in a 4231. When one does arrive it would be interesting to see who is let go.
What's good is that the options are there in the AM position which should add some impetus to those who aren't performing to get some form back.
What's even better is Lingard is the opposite to Mata, so when a game needs changing a straight swap can yield a significant difference in style.
Its a position we a lacking true class. No one at present could be considered a stand out best in one of the 3 in a 4231. When one does arrive it would be interesting to see who is let go.
It's called making a squad, no team has world class in every position. Look at Madrid their fans have even boo'd Ronaldo and Bale.
Oh and just to point out not all people think they know better than great managers. I'd say it's more of a case of a lot of people think their opinion is important, when it plainly isn't.
See my issue is when united fans use descriptions like “mediocre” to describe united players when in reality it’s rare that a player is THAT bad.
Maybe. Depends on every individual's standard of mediocre. In my eyes, Lingard is mediocre to be starting for us. But, that's just my opinion.
That's what I mean, it's like whether he plays well or poorly there are people taking it the extreme and want to get digs in.
I don't follow the players on social media to be honest but I don't know why anyone would dislike Lingard personally in terms of his performances. At this stage of his career, there is a time and a game for him. When it's open and quick like it was today, he's great because there's space and he's one of the best we've got when it comes to finding and creating it. When it's tight and you want players technical players who can play in small space, he probably isn't who you want at this stage.
He's an option for us and he gives us something different. At the moment though, he's slightly too one dimensional and that's what he needs to be addressed I believe.
How would anyone know what a lot of people think? One can only make assumptions.
And I don't mind Lingard being in the squad as a Plan C when we have injuries. I also don't mind him starting for us in the next match based on what he has shown in the last two games.
What I would hope is that consistency of quality and output of a player, in the long run is the deciding factor for how we pick a team.
And Lingard, for the duration of his time as a United player, hasn't displayed either the output or the quality to warrant a regular starting spot when none of our attacking players are injured. If he is still finding his starting spots, it is more of a testament to the state of our squad, more than a testament to his random, one-off good performances.
Definitley. Hard to imagine Miki/Mata having a similar game to Lingard today.
He seems to fit that central position, by doing the simple things extremely well & getting on the ball in space with the team moving forward looking like it might do something. Neither of which more illustrious colleagues seem to have managed very much recently.
A sort of water-carrier number 10. Quite good, innit?
And goals, I am a bit surprised though, I must admit.
A sort of water-carrier number 10. Quite good, innit?
And goals, I am a bit surprised though, I must admit.
I've never been convinved of Jese as a United player but happy to be humbled over the last couple of games. This is only 2 out of tens of games he's been underwelming though, lets not forget that. Hopefully this is him going forward.
Lingard’s performances are IMO showing colours of the old United-spirit...
Under Ferguson we regularly had “mediocre” players perform on a high level which pushed the team into triumph. For most seasons United had 2-4 world class players and a bunch of “mediocre” ones that performed great - we were (almost) never like a Real Madrid-squad that had the best players in the world for each position
This was clearly shown when Moyes took over a team of defending champions - suddenly the “mediocre” players were playing at a much lower level...
So getting players like Lingard to perform at a higher level than they normally would is so crucial for our success and is - to me - another great example of things going in the right direction under Mourinho...!
Under Ferguson we regularly had “mediocre” players perform on a high level which pushed the team into triumph. For most seasons United had 2-4 world class players and a bunch of “mediocre” ones that performed great - we were (almost) never like a Real Madrid-squad that had the best players in the world for each position
This was clearly shown when Moyes took over a team of defending champions - suddenly the “mediocre” players were playing at a much lower level...
So getting players like Lingard to perform at a higher level than they normally would is so crucial for our success and is - to me - another great example of things going in the right direction under Mourinho...!
Squad player who loves the club and 'does a job' when he comes on.
Sometimes that's just running with the ball, using his pace and linking with the other forwards. Sometimes that's scoring vital goals.
Can't complain if he has extremely average games because we've always needed players of his ilk to fill a role when we've won titles.
Sometimes that's just running with the ball, using his pace and linking with the other forwards. Sometimes that's scoring vital goals.
Can't complain if he has extremely average games because we've always needed players of his ilk to fill a role when we've won titles.