Yeah the one who is currently 8th with United and got embarrassed against Sevilla, that Jose Mourinho
If Jose were managing this City team...
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Same goes other way around. Give Pep this United and lets see how will tiki taka work with Smalling, Jones, Young and Valencia in back 4. And with Fellaini on defensive midfielder. Plus Lingard on right wing.
With 500 million, pep wouldn't have young playing as a right back.
He wouldnt have had £500million (£350million) and his signings that didn't cut it, well he would have no choice but to use them or search around the squad for someone, just like Jose has...
But give Mourinho £600million like Peps had and the freedom to replace any player who isn't up to scratch and Jose wins just as much, maybe even more.
He’d end up selling half the squad and moan in the meantime that he doesn’t have his own players. He’d sell Aguero for some big lump target man. Bernardo Silva would be sold for a 6’4” CM in the mold of McTominay. Sterling, Mahrez, Sane would be groomed into auxiliary fullbacks and get benched for weeks everytime they fail to track back.
I could go on and on but this set of players city have wouldn’t be Jose’s cup of tea and he wouldn’t have the slightest idea how to get the best out of them.
I could go on and on but this set of players city have wouldn’t be Jose’s cup of tea and he wouldn’t have the slightest idea how to get the best out of them.
You've not been watching football for long, have you?
Jose's already done what Peps doing. Splashing the cash without restriction and dominating the league. It's far from Mourinhos biggest achievement in the game, probably one of his least impressive tbh.
He also begged Fellaini to stay and said young will play 50 games this season. It's manager choices as well.
This has to be an account created by Mourinho himself. I've never seen someone defend Mourinho to the moon. Jose, is that you behind the account?
If José was city’s manager he’d have pissed off best part of his playing staff alienated the rest and we’d be shit.
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A simple yes or no guys, Jose has won the league title, breaking records in the process, while having limitless spending. Creating a ruthless side unmatched domestically.
Yes or no?
It's hardly an achievement, for Pep or Jose.
Yes or no?
It's hardly an achievement, for Pep or Jose.
How is the Lowry treating you tonight, Jose? I trust the steak is superb as usual?
They would play a lot differently, but would still win the league.
They have an excellent squad of players at the end of the day.
They have an excellent squad of players at the end of the day.
Mostly due to pep. Jose wouldn't have even brought in most of the players that pep has.
Expect for the deplited Italian league. What league has he dominated?
This has to be an account created by Mourinho himself. I've never seen someone defend Mourinho to the moon. Jose, is that you behind the account?
It’s probably Gary Neville.
Laporte and Stones are his CB. I’m sure there would be no Smalling and Jones even though LVG got them to dominate in possession against every team bar Arsenal (just saying). I’m sure Luke Shaw wouldn’t have been waiting 3 years to start and Daniel Alves would probs have been playing RB. Anyone else you want to discuss, want to bring up Matic too? Or Sanchez or Lukaku or Bailly or Pogba?
So why did it take them 5 years to win it again?
If he had taken charge of them they wouldn’t have that squad of players. The reason a lot of them look so good for that squad is also due to how it plays.
He’d have it play in a completely different manner so would he get the best out of guys like Silva, probably not. That team plays as well as it does not only because of the players but the way it is drilled, coached and managed. Jose couldn’t/ wouldn’t try to get a team to play that way so I’m not so sure with what they have he could.
Isn't there enough to criticise Mourinho for his work with United without having to delve into fantasy?
Laporte and Stones are combined how much? 120-130mil? If we presume that he has the same budget in United like Jose had, how he would buy all players that he needs for his tactic? You and all people are forgeting that City were bad in his first season. They are beast now after he spent in second year +300 mil on new defence plus another 50 on Silva.
Edit: now i see it is you. Nevermind all this. Don't bother to reply. You win
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Can't wait that we sack Mourinho. Zidane out thread then Poch out thread then Giggs out thread. The hate that our managers get is unbeliavable
Sure. Make more excuses for Jose. Let's throw some more players under the bus while we're at it. Let's give Jose more money so he buys Mikhi, Matic and Sanchez
They, including Lukaka, lindelof and bailly were all woodward buys. Believe in the manager man.
Umtiti cost around half that. Laporte had a buyout clause when Mourinho first took over. He wouldn’t have had no money what so ever he can work within a budget it’s not impossible. Spending £50m on Fred to warm the bench I’m sure we could have spent the £50m on Silva. Infact reports at the time was we ceiled that deal. Either way it’s just another unprecedented excuse to Jose’s failing.
Today's performance like many others before was depressing. No shots on goal, no authority in possession. Nothing. How do you accept that? I'd rather keep sacking managers till we find the right one, you don't just get blindly dragged along by the wrong one!
We are behind Bournemouth and Watford after 12 games with a negative goal difference, already bounced out of one cup against a pub side, and you’re wondering why people aren’t worshipping Mourinho? Not to mention the style of football which is the greatest sin of all.
But yeah it’s because he doesn’t have another CB so we can start playing champagne football. Not like he bought 2 of them and both are busts. Some of you have taken on the personality of Mourinho, blaming anyone and everyone for his failures.
We support Man utd as a club not just managers. If a managers doing shit, then he will get his abuse.
We are 8th, -1 goal difference and have lost a 3rd of the games we have played. If there's a time to hate on the manager its now.
What is Mourinho building that is worth persisting with?
You can hide behind lack of backing(poor Mou only given near £400 million so far) but where is this team going, what style of play are we aiming for? The £80 million he spent in the summer can not get off the bench, he prioritizes height and physicality over technical ability, for most of his time here he has been building a team for the mid 00's instead of todays game. We are so pedestrian in everything we do.
You can hide behind lack of backing(poor Mou only given near £400 million so far) but where is this team going, what style of play are we aiming for? The £80 million he spent in the summer can not get off the bench, he prioritizes height and physicality over technical ability, for most of his time here he has been building a team for the mid 00's instead of todays game. We are so pedestrian in everything we do.
Mourinho would buy tall players to replace all the small ones and phase them out of the team.
He won things in the past, directs anger at the board and claps at the fans. What more do you want in a manager?
How are people that are so blindly defending Mourinho failing to notice that Guardiola had his system and tactics set up from day one, unlike Mourinho.
That system showed promise and made it easier to identify their weaknesses (GK, back line) and address them, whilst we're so shambolic it's different issues every week. One moment is defense, other is attack, then it's MF and now more recently some are even blaming GK.
Otamendi was a laughing stock back in the day, Stones was touted the next Phil Jones, Kompany was given credit but was always injury prone, Mendy's injury put a huge question mark over his him .Walker was wastly overrated yet now the same people that were tagging them labels on them are the ones drooling over those players...that's because Guardiola has improved his player's.
Yes he's had more money to spend, but them looking like his team from the get go, him constantly improving his players and his working system making it easy to identify the weaknesses is what's pushing his bosses to further invest in him. Not to mention majority of his targets are still very young and have huge room for improvement as well.
EDIT: Bar Nolito and Bravo, on whom he spent 30 million combined, who else failed and was deemed a flop? Danilo was brought to be a bench player and so was Delph and both of them played their part in last season's record breaking campaign.
That system showed promise and made it easier to identify their weaknesses (GK, back line) and address them, whilst we're so shambolic it's different issues every week. One moment is defense, other is attack, then it's MF and now more recently some are even blaming GK.
Otamendi was a laughing stock back in the day, Stones was touted the next Phil Jones, Kompany was given credit but was always injury prone, Mendy's injury put a huge question mark over his him .Walker was wastly overrated yet now the same people that were tagging them labels on them are the ones drooling over those players...that's because Guardiola has improved his player's.
Yes he's had more money to spend, but them looking like his team from the get go, him constantly improving his players and his working system making it easy to identify the weaknesses is what's pushing his bosses to further invest in him. Not to mention majority of his targets are still very young and have huge room for improvement as well.
EDIT: Bar Nolito and Bravo, on whom he spent 30 million combined, who else failed and was deemed a flop? Danilo was brought to be a bench player and so was Delph and both of them played their part in last season's record breaking campaign.
This. Well said.
If Jose were managing this City and Pep were managing United. United would win the game and
Jose's fans would say Pep inherited a much better squad.
Jose's fans would say Pep inherited a much better squad.
When Jose had top players at Chelsea they played some great football and won things
Aye then they quickly grew sick of him and got him fired. Hardly a ringing endorsement, is it?
That's beyond the point, what's talked about here is how they played and what they won. But hey, we're in the whataboutism era ... so why not.... even your argument is not sound because they did the same with Conte and other managers before these two, so it must be the managers yes, it has no relation with the players.
It's amazing what happens on this forum after every United defeat, it's like we're expecting to win every god damn fecking game.
So then what's your reasoning for us being quite a way behind Spurs, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea? They haven't out spent us in every position.