Interim manager discussion: Who replaces the interim interim manger (Carrick)?

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How can Fletcher and Carrick be seen as good caretakers ? They are the definitions of boy scouts, and was part of the problem we just had. Its so fecking obvious to me United only wants «yes men» at this club.
 
I'm hopeful this will work fine until the end of the season.
Would almost certainly remain exactly the same or get worse. Would be absolute insanity to let someone with even less experience than Ole be in charge for more than one or two games
 
How can Fletcher and Carrick be seen as good caretakers ? They are the definitions of boy scouts, and was part of the problem we just had. Its so fecking obvious to me United only wants «yes men» at this club.
If they plan to make a permanent appointment shortly, tell us who should be a caretaker for a few games then?
 
So, we're going from someone whose managerial experience was Molde and relegating Cardiff to someone with literally zero experience in management, and basically no coaching experience to boot.

Excellent.
 
Fletcher - another of Fergie’s favourites as interim…

Really!? Why?

When has he managed previously?

Why can’t Utd bring people in for roles who are actually specialists in their field?

If Fletcher and Carrick do even remotely well, you KNOW exactly where it’ll start heading to…
 
He should manage no more than 2 games. That will give UTD a week to either find a fulltime manager or a proper interim with managerial experience.
 
If they plan to make a permanent appointment shortly, tell us who should be a caretaker for a few games then?
Thats a big if. A really big if with these owners. They are arrogant pricks who probably didnt see it coming before today,. You can count on zero plans for a new manager, and every half decent linked with us is just paper talks
 
Fletcher - another of Fergie’s favourites as interim…

Really!? Why?

When has he managed previously?

Why can’t Utd bring people in for roles who are actually specialists in their field?

If Fletcher and Carrick do even remotely well, you KNOW exactly where it’ll start heading to…
Isn't the why pretty simple? We need somebody to handle training and the period between now and appointing an interim manager or a longer-term appointment.

What are we going to do, get the tea lady to do it? He's a football man and has a head on his shoulders and is within the club, that's about all the justification that is needed for a caretaker for a handful of games. If it was for the season it would be nonsensical but let's calm down eh...
 
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Isn't the why pretty simple? We need somebody to handle training and the period between now and appointing an interim manager or a longer-term appointment.

What are we going to do, get the tea lady to do it? He's a football man and has a head on his shoulders and is within the club, that's about all the justification that is needed for a caretaker for a handful of games. If it was for the season it would be nonsensical but let's calm down eh...
Fletcher over Solskjaer?

Desperation is the only word.

Solskjaer at least won the league with Molde. What did Fletcher do?

I would rather Ronaldo player manager at this rate if we can't even convince good managers to manage Manchester United!

Or is it time to accept we are not as big as we once we're.

Anyone happy with Fletcher as manager is insane and your standards are awfully low.

Fletcher has nothing on his CV bar motivating a crap West Brom side and having super bad xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 
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They're just as much at the mercy of the managerial market as much as United are. If any of those other top clubs were also looking for a proven top coach on 21 November 2021, they'd be running into the same problems we are.

United are unlucky that Ole stumbled at such an inconvenient moment. If there was a Klopp, Guardiola or Tuchel available right now we'd obviously have got him in straight away. But there isn't. So we can't.

The pool of available talent isn't bottomless. This isn't like a videogame where there's also a perfect solution waiting to be found at any given moment.
There are a couple of obvious points to make here - one is that there many 'gettable' managers who are better suited to the job than ole and the other that it was quite obvious for pretty much all of oles reign he wasn't upto the standard required so the club could have been proactive and taken advantage of one of the occasions when top coaches were available (e.g. tuchel or conte) and upgraded. The first stumble this was not

I am consistently amazed by how some of our fan base don't seem to realise how much of a car crash we are
 
Fletcher over Solskjaer?

Desperation is the only word.

Solskjaer at least won the league with Molde. What did Fletcher do?

I would rather Ronaldo player manager at this rate if we can't even convince good managers to manage Manchester United!

Or is it time to accept we are not as big as we once we're.

Anyone happy with Fletcher as manager is insane and your standards are awfully low.

Fletcher has nothing on his CV bar motivating a crap West Brom side and having super bad IBS.
It's not top trumps between Ole and Darren Fletcher, of course he has a better CV, it's not in dispute or even relevant! That's why Ole was the manager of the football club...he had a better CV than people who were here but were not manager of the football club.

However the manager of the football club just got sacked which means there's an empty office with the name Ole on it. Should we scour the world for the finest manager that will take a 2 week contract, or maybe get to the task of securing our manager for the next 3 years?

Jeez, it's purely functional. At least wait until he's been there for a period before moaning about it.
 
There are a couple of obvious points to make here - one is that there many 'gettable' managers who are better suited to the job than ole and the other that it was quite obvious for pretty much all of oles reign he wasn't upto the standard required so the club could have been proactive and taken advantage of one of the occasions when top coaches were available (e.g. tuchel or conte) and upgraded. The first stumble this was not

I am consistently amazed by how some of our fan base don't seem to realise how much of a car crash we are
We deliberately and publicly turned down Conte. He was deemed to be a bad fit for the club.

With regards to Tuchel, this was what the table looked like on the day he signed his contract with Chelsea:
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Of course we weren't going to fire Ole and hire Tuchel instead at that point.

Solksjaer had taken us from 6th to 3rd and was about to finish 2nd.
 
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We deliberately and publicly turned down Conte. He was deemed to be a bad fit for the club.

With regards to Tuchel, this was what the table looked like on the he signed his contract with Chelsea:
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Of course we weren't going to fire Ole and hire Tuchel instead at that point.

Solksjaer had taken us from 6th to 3rd and was about to finish 2nd.
fecking hell that feels so much longer ago than it was.
 
Fletcher over Solskjaer?

Desperation is the only word.

Solskjaer at least won the league with Molde. What did Fletcher do?

I would rather Ronaldo player manager at this rate if we can't even convince good managers to manage Manchester United!

Or is it time to accept we are not as big as we once we're.

Anyone happy with Fletcher as manager is insane and your standards are awfully low.

Fletcher has nothing on his CV bar motivating a crap West Brom side and having super bad IBS.
What a cnut you are.
 
I hope it's just for the game against Villareal and at most till Chelsea. Should be enough time to get a proper manager or caretaker.
 
Nope. Get a manager in that knows his stuff and has done it somewhere before . We need to be ruthless from here in , We want the best and will not settle for second best .
 
We deliberately and publicly turned down Conte. He was deemed to be a bad fit for the club.

With regards to Tuchel, this was what the table looked like on the he signed his contract with Chelsea:
21-11-202101-14-15wkjqq.png


Of course we weren't going to fire Ole and hire Tuchel instead at that point.

Solksjaer had taken us from 6th to 3rd and was about to finish 2nd.
On your point about conte, sure they turned him down because they utter morons

You might have a point about tuchel although he was seemingly gettable before he was fired and was rumoured to be open to leaving in the summer

There have been other high quality managers available at times during oles tenure but the club decided to back an inexperienced vibes merchant. Even when we were riding high in the table last summer we weren't playing well at all. It's obvious our second place was down to Chelsea and Liverpool experiencing blips more than us being good, and also ole was flattered by the lack of coaching time available during the covid period
 
Just make Ten Haag an offer he can’t refuse. Quadruple his salary if needed, bring all his staff in. End of story.
 
Just give it to someone who has managed before until we find the main target! Why on earth an ex player again? I don’t know how they people think or what do they have up there at their heads!
 
new meta strat from the board. appoint fletcher to get a new maanger bounce. then when he loses a game or two sack him and appoint carrick for the bounce, repeat with mckenna, then phelan, etc until were out of coaches to run through. maybe by then they will have chosen a permanent manager.
 
I hope it's just for the game against Villareal and at most till Chelsea. Should be enough time to get a proper manager or caretaker.
I think this is what I think will happen

The issue is though, if that’s the case, why not just let Carrick and McKenna handle it…?

Why is it suddenly necessary for Fletcher now to be involved in coaching the first team?

As yet another one of Fergie’s faves it’s totally understandable that it makes Utd fans very uneasy…
 
No. If he wins few games then he'll be awarded a 3 year contract.
 
Why Fletcher? because he's scottish? he's one of Fergie's old boys? give me a break. Wheels better be in motion for a real manager this time round.
Because caretaker managers are generally appointed from within the club.
 
Just make Ten Haag an offer he can’t refuse. Quadruple his salary if needed, bring all his staff in. End of story.

We are not City or PSG or even Chelsea who can do what they want whenever they need. We have a board that can not make football decisions and no nothing about it.
 
The issue is though, if that’s the case, why not just let Carrick and McKenna handle it…?

Why is it suddenly necessary for Fletcher now to be involved in coaching the first team?

As yet another one of Fergie’s faves it’s totally understandable that it makes Utd fans very uneasy…
Solskjaer and Phelan to be replaced by Fletcher and the interim head coach. We also don't know what will happen with McKenna.
 
The issue is though, if that’s the case, why not just let Carrick and McKenna handle it…?

Why is it suddenly necessary for Fletcher now to be involved in coaching the first team?

As yet another one of Fergie’s faves it’s totally understandable that it makes Utd fans very uneasy…
Maybe because Fletcher is a better leader, those two are ultimately coaches and maybe they think it is direction we need?

Maybe because he is a different face that can have a fresher take on things and that the players can potentially respond to rather than them seeing the same old thing?

Maybe because those two have underperformed (at least it is said) and therefore aren't deemed suitable to step beyond their current remit and may be replaced in the not too distant future?

Just speculating quite mindlessly but it doesn't seem that out there or strange to me.
 
Just make Ten Haag an offer he can’t refuse. Quadruple his salary if needed, bring all his staff in. End of story.
He'd actually go down in my estimation if he accepted that.

It might be a good thing for us from short-term perspective. But I don't think I'd want a United manager with so little integrity that he'd abandon his club mid-season in that manner. And all for something as gauche as some extra money.
 
Maybe we could just have all of the class of 92 do monthly rotations as manager
 
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