Interim manager discussion: Who replaces the interim interim manger (Carrick)?

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Unbelievable.We're a fecking laughing stock.Biggest club in the world and it's obvious to anyone with half a brain we are a shambles from top to bottom.
Nothing will change until the Glazers are gone.
Still don't understand how they were allowed to 'acquire' the club in the first place.Never should have been allowed.The best mangers in the world should be clambering over themselves to manage Manchester United but it seems no one's interested.Embarrassing.
 
Berbaclass said:
So how are the effects of it negligible?
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Because Ole's vision was shit and he thought retaining possession was a waste of time and players should be looking for forward passes quickly. The game like that will always end up in inconsistency.
 
I guess it'll be someone like Blanc (hope not after seeing the shit around him) or Favre?

Can't imagine they'll like Rangnick.
 
Without internal source and proof it's difficult to know how competent Carrick and/or McKenna have been in their roles.

Either:

- Ole had a clear vision for how he wanted to play, communicated it well, but it just wasn't coached and executed well on the training field by coaches that aren't competent enough to do so.
- Ole had a vague idea, communicated it without detail and consequently two competent coaches weren't able to execute it on the training field, thus making them seem worse in the process.

Both Carrick and McKenna were responsible for the execution, but not the conception of the tactical idea.

With an interim manager with a good pedigree, we'll undoubtedly get to judge them in an environment where they won't necessarily be able to hide behind the relative incompetence of the manager.
 
klsv said:
What an absolute kindergarten this place is :lol:

Do you just want the bench to be empty on Tuesday and let the players freestyle the match? Someone will need to manage the side before we get someone in. Or is it just that you don't know what to moan about after Ole got the sack?
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Yeah I don't get what planet some people are on.
 
JPRouve said:
We could have an issue behind the scene with some players openly against the manager's decisions? We could be close to bring someone but that someone doesn't want to take care of the game against Villarreal and would prefer to have more than a day with the team? The board could be a bit dim? Or all of these suggestions are true.
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Fair point. If we announced someone today they'd effectively have no time to even meet the team before the next game. Who'd want to start even their temporary spell in charge with a game that would effectively see us out of the CL if we lose and be in that position before he's got to hold a single full training session?
 
Sorry, but this is a joke of a decision.
Should be a complete reset of the manager and back room staff including coaches.

Until that happens, the same issues are going to keep coming up.

Really frustrating that this wasn't done in the correct way.
 
The problem is that if the interim manager can lead us to finish top 4 (and this should be the minimum requirement) with some decent play style the incompetent board may appoint him permanent manager again because that's what their actual aim is - Top 4 finish.
 
Fooza said:
Only way we get a successful season some how is the interim manager is a top coach who can coach our coaches on how to coach with a good style of play. But honestly, I'm still writing this season off.
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I agree. Could still have some sort of new manager boost, much like Ole had for 15 or so games when he first took over. I'd focus on solidifying the defense and look to get goals from the quality of our forwards; little can be done in style of play from mid season imo.
 
Anyone remember Carrick's awfully dull post match interview after getting beat by Olympiakos in 2014? :lol: I can't see him being the inspiring type.

 
Ranchero said:
What made me laugh was the story that Darren Fletcher could take charge. Darren Fletcher. Who isn't qualified to be technical director. And yet that is what he is. Mind you Carrick it taking temporary charge with United his first actual senior coaching post. He only completed his UEFA A Licence four years ago. So that is equally as laughable. At least Phelan has some management experience... and yet he isn't in the frame? Madness. A word often used but so apt when it comes to the powers that be at Old Trafford.
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There are a lot of posts today, especially in the general forum, frustrated that the forum is so negative this morning, but there is nothing to be positive about so far.

Every decision seems to further highlight how inept we are at every level. Why was one of the many roles and titles not looking into an interim manager after the Liverpool result? It was always going to be likely that a solution was needed.

Not only have we left ourselves unprepared, we have waited, in the hope that our novice manager would beat Watford, with no succession plan whatsoever. We now go into a crucial CL game with one of the coaches who has done so much damage over the last three years in charge.

It’s just not good enough and we shouldn’t be satisfied or accept it as a fan base. It stinks.
 
klsv said:
Don't see much of a discussion here, more like repetitive one-liners, with some accusing Carrick of being part of some criminal organisation led by Ole.
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You used the term 'criminal organisation'. Nobody else did.
 
I think Favre would be a good choice. Give it to him to the end of the season and reevaluate then. He is tactically adept, has a clear playing style and speaks multiple languages. Bonus is he knows Sancho inside out and will be able to maximize his potential.
 
First of all, we should already have in mind a permanent manager to appoint in the summer. Then, we look for interim manager who plays similar style to the permanent manager we are going to appoint in the summer. This is to ensure smooth transition.

Hope the football people in the club is planning longer term. I worry they may make the interim manager permanent again after a purple patch.
 
Statue of Limitations said:
Sorry, but this is a joke of a decision.
Should be a complete reset of the manager and back room staff including coaches.

Until that happens, the same issues are going to keep coming up.

Really frustrating that this wasn't done in the correct way.
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What? You think no one should be there coaching the players this week? Just go out and play….the one thing the majority of the forum have accused Ole of doing?
we can’t just get rid of everything, we need some sort of stability going into the Villareal/Chelsea game.

Think we can appoint an interim within 8hrs?
 
Maluco said:
There are a lot of posts today, especially in the general forum, frustrated that the forum is so negative this morning, but there is nothing to be positive about so far.

Every decision seems to further highlight how inept we are at every level. Why was one of the many roles and titles not looking into an interim manager after the Liverpool result? It was always going to be likely that a solution was needed.

Not only have we left ourselves unprepared, we have waited, in the hope that our novice manager would beat Watford, with no succession plan whatsoever. We now go into a crucial CL game with one of the coaches who has done so much damage over the last three years in charge.

It’s just not good enough and we shouldn’t be satisfied or accept it as a fan base. It stinks.
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Absolutely. The issues at the club do not just lie at Ole, who will remain a legend at the club. He is a symptom of a far greater malaise. The fact the club have been forced to act says a lot about how low we have come. And it is a cover for the deep deep failings of leadership that stem from the boardroom.
 
I think we know who we'll get. Twitter 'reliable sources' who'll tell you within 5 minutes that the board is 'split' or 'haven't made up their mind' because it's been three minutes since their last Tweet and they're trending so need to make something up, should be disregarded.

The fact we want an interim through end of season suggests we know who we'll get but contractually he's not available.
 
UnitedSofa said:
What? You think no one should be there coaching the players this week? Just go out and play….the one thing the majority of the forum have accused Ole of doing?
we can’t just get rid of everything, we need some sort of stability going into the Villareal/Chelsea game.

Think we can appoint an interim within 8hrs?
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Should have happened before the international break with a complete clear out.
Like I said, I am not happy with the way it was done, Ole had to go, but so do the coaches.

Ole admitted he doesn't 'coach' the teams, so what exactly is going to change.
We have handled it badly, but yes you're right regarding having to have someone in charge.

So, so badly handled.
 
LilyWhiteSpur said:
So they sack Ole and give the job to the guy who coached the team under Jose and Ole?
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Yes. That's how it works.

I don't get why people surprised, the role itself says.
 
Statue of Limitations said:
Sorry, but this is a joke of a decision.
Should be a complete reset of the manager and back room staff including coaches.

Until that happens, the same issues are going to keep coming up.

Really frustrating that this wasn't done in the correct way.
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If we sack every Tom, Dick and Harry - who leads the team out on Tuesday? Ronaldo the player-manager?

I want a refreshed back room too, but come on. This is normal from any club. You sack the manager, and then the assistant plays up as interim until new manager is found.
 
UnitedSofa said:
What? You think no one should be there coaching the players this week? Just go out and play….the one thing the majority of the forum have accused Ole of doing?
we can’t just get rid of everything, we need some sort of stability going into the Villareal/Chelsea game.

Think we can appoint an interim within 8hrs?
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Other clubs forward plan. They think about succession. A Plan B should anything go wrong. It is completely normal. Except for United. We can't forward plan when it was bloody obvious even before the Liverpool capitulation that Solskjaer's days were numbered. Other clubs would be thinking about a permanent manager. Or at least have an eye on who they may bring in quickly as an interim measure. We haven't. We have an interim interim manager. And Michael Carrick according to the club will be in place for "forthcoming games" so he will be in place at the very least for the Villarreal game on Tuesday and the Chelsea game next Sunday. That's in seven days. But this is all but a symptom of the ineptitude at 'learning on the job' United.

And it is time to wake up to the damage that is being caused by those whose faces are never seen.
 
I’m not sure why everyone is losing their shit over the prospect of Carrick taking temporary charge. The plane to Valencia leaves tomorrow morning- do you think we’d have no coaches on it? Jesus wept
 
LilyWhiteSpur said:
Do you think there will be a bounce? As much as Carrick was a top player he always came across a bit uninspiring.
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He won't be manager till end of season, it's for couple of games.
 
Is Carrick the next Guardiola? He played like him, maybe he also coaches like him? no?
 
If we don't have an immediate replacement we should have kept Ole. Carrick and others are no better (probably worse after the "new manager bounce" effect has worn off).
 
Hernandez - BFA said:
If we sack every Tom, Dick and Harry - who leads the team out on Tuesday? Ronaldo the player-manager?

I want a refreshed back room too, but come on. This is normal from any club. You sack the manager, and then the assistant plays up as interim until new manager is found.
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The key difference is Carrick is not an interim. He is an interim interim manager because we haven't been succession planning. A lame duck boss. With other situations, an assistant steps up and there is a chance, if results go well, that he might, just might be given longer. In this case, Carrick is just a lame duck manager. A bum on seat until we get round to thinking about a proper interim manager. And then Carrick will, most likely, be out the door. We are in effect rudderless.
 
So Carrick isn't the interim manager ? So what we will just have another Ole type to take the reigns from him as well? Or will Carrick actually have a chance to be the interim manager ?
 
Carrick and the rest of the coaching staff were part of the problem, now the 3 stopped have been out in temporary charge, God help us.

Glazers and Woodward take the word incompetence to a whole new level.
 
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