I atleast liked it when he went to 3 in the back, that was a bit different for a change. Now he's back to the same old idiocy of repeating something that isn't working. He is looking very ordinary right now and his reputation is on the line because if he loses this job he's going to be pegged a tier below the top clubs and might have to take on a job like Inter once again.
Is Mou still 'The Special One' for you all?
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Do you think Mourinho will have the same pull if we flop again this season? The grand Unite revival just isn't happening. We are deflated and there is no buzz around the team like there was when he came in.
Thing is, you can't have it both ways with Jose. You can't say he's only bought success, and then claim he can't work with big, talented attacking players. He obviously has before.
I think last season with Chelsea has made him retreat into himself, and he needs to get over it. There's only so far we can go with a loyal "Team Jose" group of average players...and it's here, or lower. Hopefully he realises this ASAP.
Forget competing for titles or top, we are struggling like a mid table team. We don't deserve to be higher than where we are. The squad we had at the start of the season should be performing levels above this on paper and ability.
He deserves another summer to get rid of the mould at the club.
He's already part of the mould.
Genuine question. Because of his past?
Utter nonsense. Since when did mid table teams go 20 league games without defeat?
With that I agree. Let's salvage what we can and perhaps the board and manager will finally engage the reality we're in to a fullest extent.
Remains to be seen. What's becoming obvious is that we've seen this pattern before. From the last two managers, in fact. Changes loads of players, looks good for a while but, ultimately, can't get much of a tune out of them at all.
It's apples and oranges, obviously, but there are managers giving much more bang for buck than he is in terms of working with what's already there. Maybe he brings in top players during the summer and it all turns around. It might be one way around being out thought by quite a few managers a season. Or maybe we'll still be lumping the ball aimlessly at Griezmann or whatever poor cnut we end up signing.
It's apples and oranges, obviously, but there are managers giving much more bang for buck than he is in terms of working with what's already there. Maybe he brings in top players during the summer and it all turns around. It might be one way around being out thought by quite a few managers a season. Or maybe we'll still be lumping the ball aimlessly at Griezmann or whatever poor cnut we end up signing.
Never was and never will The Special One for me. Almost always has needed shit loads of cash to win anything and he's doing nothing here to prove his so called genius. He's probably the right man for the job but he's anything but special.
Well we are gonna be about 6th or 7th based on this moment.... I mean.. that is midtable.
Yes, keep holding on to that ok? It will take you very far
Don't think they can't face blaming him.
I think it is just that many of them including me are scared that what if he does not work for united. He is one of the biggest names we can get atm to sort us out with all the PL experiences.
And just hoping it gets better and a bit of back to being successful on the way.
Poor excuse. He choose to have Fellaini stay same as he choose to snub Schneiderlin and Schweinsteiger and then ultimately sell them.
We're 5th. HTH.
It only need to take me far enough to prove your last post as utter nonsense. Which it does. With ease.
Meaningless and you are overplaying this.
It's 12 draws. Games that are winnable and should in a normal situation been ours.
It's not like we etched out a draw in adverse condition. It's 15+ points lost out of those games that's holding us back....incl home games in there.
Yep. Same as last year. Teams with games in hand behind us. Hardest run of fixtures left.
This isn't good enough.
The fine margins are costing us. These little moments, if they went in our favour you would be signing his praises. The chances are there every game and we are dominating oponents, we are just lacking that final moment of class to put our dominance into a substantial win in all of these draws. Its clear as day but you all are looking at the result, not whats happening and what its causing.
I think this year I have the least amount of patience for the 'squad is bad' argument. If there be weaknesses, they are there (to a huge degree) because Mourinho chose to ignore them.
Yes there are no wingers, but he didn't go for any. To the best of my knowledge and according to what he said, he got all four of the targets he had in mind. So y'all complaining about us not having some fantasy lineup you cooked up (usually containing the type of player Mourinho wouldn't go for in a million years anyhow), are just being silly. He should be doing better with these players.
Yes there are no wingers, but he didn't go for any. To the best of my knowledge and according to what he said, he got all four of the targets he had in mind. So y'all complaining about us not having some fantasy lineup you cooked up (usually containing the type of player Mourinho wouldn't go for in a million years anyhow), are just being silly. He should be doing better with these players.
Tbf can't quite recollect a team going 20 matches unbeaten and yet be so far away from the top. Guess it makes it weirdly unique in many ways...some may call it special... a special one..
For me, Mourinho is still the special one.
I have faith in him, I think a lesser manager would have this squad in a lower league position.
That's the problem. He wasn't brought in because he was the right manager, he was brought in because he was a name. Same as Pogba was bought because he was a name. Operating like that won't bring us any success in a league as competitive as the PL currently is. Smart operators, smart coaches, everywhere you look. The scary thing is when Mourinho finally concedes defeat who knows how deep the damage at the club will be and how long it will take to recover from that.
The Herrera/Young/Lingard debacle was right out of the Louis I'll throw shit at a wall to see if it sticks Van Gaal handbook. It paints a wider picture of confusion and lack of control. Mourinho's job will be a lot easier if he were to play his best players. It's as if he is intent on proving some wider to point to a host of talented players. Meanwhile, the likes of Fellaini, Lingard, Ibrahimovic and (bizarrely) Rashford seem to be able to play however they like yet not really come to face the same kind of consequences for their poor displays.
Talk me through anyone in Everton's position or below who has a squad anywhere near our ability.
Please explain.
Yup. And iirc he did claim to have watched our team before he was appointed and analysed it, didn't he. Some analysis.
I bet we'll hear some more of "Shaw didn't do this" "Player x didn't have commitment" type excuses.
Are you aware teams like Burnley/Leicester/Everton and WBA won more points at home then United ??
Didn't you want LVG to stay when he finished 5th? How was it good enough then?
Sorry, what? People are saying that Manchester United should settle for being in 5th place? Who said that?
If we're still in 5th this time next year then your constant negativity throughout this season will seem a little less hysterical. Meanwhile, try to be patient. It's a useful life skill.
We have established weeks ago that for this squad can create plenty of chances, but not enough clear chances, and when it does, it is very poor at finishing those. Its happened so many times this season, but in case you'd forgotten, Ibrahimovic gave us another prime example just a few minutes into the game. We have also established that its far more likely to get entry in CL via the Europa and not the PL.
So the game ends and yet its the same rinse repeat, copy, paste hyperbole from fans. Why do you expect any difference, did anything dramatic change, why do it to yourself?
Thats not dissing the squad or Mourinho, we are where we are: a good side who are incredibly difficult to beat but who cant score enough goals. I expect that specific problem to be solved in the summer.
Until then, expect what we are used to getting.
So the game ends and yet its the same rinse repeat, copy, paste hyperbole from fans. Why do you expect any difference, did anything dramatic change, why do it to yourself?
Thats not dissing the squad or Mourinho, we are where we are: a good side who are incredibly difficult to beat but who cant score enough goals. I expect that specific problem to be solved in the summer.
Until then, expect what we are used to getting.
I think LVG being sacked was fair enough. Shame it happened after the FA Cup win. I was happy either way to be fair.
It's not always about the quality of players, it's levels of performance and were a mix matched team.
I'm pretty drunk and seem to be making no sense. Don't know where I implied that!
TBF, we have been trying everything.
You are right about the scary thing.
Let's hope Jose succeeds at United.
I'm sure you said before you thought he deserved to stay
Yeah it's safe to say our quality of players isn't reflected in performances or league position.
This post says it all as it is.
People used to say the same about Jose. Often as a criticism.
Nah. If anything we've attracted more big name signings in the 4 years post Fergie than we did in almost a decade before under him. We're not in danger of falling off the grid, a la Milan. For one, we have money, and in the PL you're never more than one good year away from CL football, and potentially a title. Chelsea finished 10th last year (something we've never done) and still beat everyone to Kante in the summer, then subsequently ran away with the league. Liverpool have finished in way more laughable positions for 4 of the last 6 seasons. We over egg the drama in times like this...our profile is still massive, and Jose hasn't ruined his reputation yet. If anything he's renowned as a second season specialist.
The worst thing we could do is feck with shit right now IMO. Next year, maybe, but unless we're relegated, the idea we're too far gone is ridiculous.
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