I’m amazed Eddie Howe gets overlooked. A lot of clubs are going to massively regret not hiring him. He’d be so easy to prise away too.
Is Pochettino's time at Spurs coming to an end?
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As an opposition fan I believe I speak for everyone when I say that we hope United appoint him for life. Especially given it means a quality Manager in Poch won't be taking over.
Best case scenario for us all is that Poch goes abroad and Ole remains at the wheel.
'Ambitious' would be the word.
There's not much point trying to argue, there is some peak level United delusion in this thread (and I acknowledge that it's just a select few and not everyone).
If Zidane ends the season (I think he will) but the results are mediocre, he may say he is leaving, that is, an elegant sacking.
In that case I imagine there would be three candidates. Klopp, Mourinho and Pochettino. Among those three, I think Pochettino is the least favorite, and would have it very difficult if, for example, a Mourinho-Xabi Alonso duo is available.
In that case I imagine there would be three candidates. Klopp, Mourinho and Pochettino. Among those three, I think Pochettino is the least favorite, and would have it very difficult if, for example, a Mourinho-Xabi Alonso duo is available.
He's done very well at Spurs no sane person will argue that. I don't know how to phrase the question but do you think he's lost interest? Or a much worse scenario, the players have? Have the players become complacent, over-confident? I ask because we saw similar things happen here with us.
Players might simply want him sacked (for whatever reason).
Also a possibility I didn't consider.
He won't be the first top manager to face an embarrassing cup defeat at the hands of lowly competition (the nature of cup competition).
This will be woven into the narrative of him needing to "seek a new challenge" though.
This will be woven into the narrative of him needing to "seek a new challenge" though.
This would be fair if it was a stand alone poor performance, rather than another symptom of an ever growing sense that his time at the club is drawing to a close.The likes of Eriksen and Alli look like shells of their past selves, and have done for a while now. The whole team looks tired and disinterested every other week, and even when they do look interested the quality no longer exists. We get the odd game like Palace where you think maybe we're back at it, but then straight away the following week it's back to the same level.
Our form for a long while has been dreadful league wise. The fact away form stands out as particularly poor tells me that maybe we're a side that simply don't have the confidence to back ourselves to go to another team's ground and win. Forgetting intangibles like mentality/confidence or whatever, our performances on the pitch resemble a side who have forgotten how to play fast, incisive football and simply don't have any answers to the tactical problems we're facing. I can't even remember the last time we went on a winning run in the league or put in a genuinely complete performance (some of the cl games were great, but we were fortunate, it was often scrappy) where everyone impresses.
I don't know if it's about 'seeking a new challenge', but I do think it's a case of the manager reaching the end of a cycle with this group of players.
I don't think he's lost interest (though I don't think the project excites him as much as it once did, and from his comments about leaving us if he won the cl final, I do think he's looking towards a future without us) but some of the players are performing like they have. His methods are pretty intense (especially pre-season is exhausting) and I can imagine that if the players don't think the manager is 100% behind it anymore, that same fire to press and train like maniacs won't be there. It doesn't help that it appears that any one time half our first team is out with injuries.
Poch has always relied a lot on that fire, with a youthful base of players who are not egotistical. Maybe now that's just now as effective with certain players anymore. I think he could do well if he was given the time and resources to mount a rebuild but a) I do think he will be looking elsewhere and b) I'm not sure the club would give him that time.
Eddie howe wont be as effective if he manages united. Just like moyes was diminished in authority by the likes of rio. Off course moyes still wasnt good enough but looking back the players then never really give him a fair chance to follow his instructions. The 82 crosses are their way of spiting him it's ridiculous
You need a certain stature to command respect from pogba and the gang.
Makes sense.
If United have any clue they’ll be making moves to bring Pochettino in as soon as possible. I don’t see Levy sacking him but he might be more likely to part ways with some compensation, considering their form this year.
You really should be all over him.
You really should be all over him.
True to an extent. He wanted to bring in Baines and Fellaini for a reason but he wasn't allowed that style of play. Feck - Giggs didnt even let him bring Fellaini as a sub when we were behind. Yet, managers after that didnt care about that and Fellaini was used exactly same way.
Yes, please do it and we will keep Pogs.
Klopp would not join any other club in the near future. I remember reading he touched lfc sign with awe and the rawk lap it up as if he loves the club, long before he actually signs for them. I layghed at that time but the rest as we know is history. He loved that club and still has a long way to go. Plus he's not desperate enough to land a madrid job, you know how much of a career suicide a madrid job is.
If zidane walks my bet you'll end up with some ex legend like raul or hierro. Pochetinno and Mourinho is a possibility but not klopp I'd say
Pochettino has done an amazing job at Spurs over the years and one blip this season isn't going to change that. It's absurd. I would drop Ole in a second for Pochettino to come here.
I think that is what's really the key here. Even Sir Alex would refresh his team regularly, so that no one would take his place for granted or players would start getting disinterested. Interestingly Poch wanted more players for a few summers but Levy wouldn't provide the funds for it. I think this is what happens when you don't really bring in new players to improve as a team. They tend to get stagnant.
Jury is still out on Ole. Cesc the problem is that he's been given three fifths of feck all to work with.. even the big three would have struggled to get a result on the weekend (look at Poch's current form with a much better team).
What has been evident since Ole's appointment is that he's got a key understanding of the players that need to be retained and those that don't. That's half the battle tbh. He has an idea of the style of football he wants to play so its then up to his coaches to implement methods to have the players play that style Its not working at the moment, but then again, he may not have those players available.
He'll be given atleast another 2 transfer windows to bring in more players and then he'll more than likely be judged after that. He's been rather successful so far with his purchases so he's earned some credit there.
Is Poch currently a better manager? Overwhelmingly yes, but LVG and Mourinho were superior to him at the time of their appointments and neither of those panned out so well. We also know that alot of good managers have gone to big clubs and wilted under the pressure of expectation. Poch is the underdog at Spurs. He's not expected to win trophies and top four is a good season. I'll reserve my opinion on whether we've made a mistake with Ole, but I cant judge him yet. I've seen unbelievably good and horrendously bad, but I saw worse with Mourinho...
If Poch is available, sacking Ole is a no brainer. But then, we always do other way. Poch will most likely be available and we will stick with Ole . We will eventually sack him to appoint Allegri next year.
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Fergie said he had to break up a team every 4 years to refresh his teams and l think Pochettino has taken Spurs as far as they can go with him.
Yes, I agree. Klopp seems complicated and Pochettino is difficult for the moment .
That is, if we didn't have a coach at the end of last season, he would be perfect. After reaching the Champions League final, or even at the beginning of the previous season, after Zidane resigned, but now ... It is somewhat subjective, but I think he would not have as much weight (he is not so popular and his team , from what I understand gives symptoms of fatigue, demotivation, etc., what we want to avoid).
Also, by his statements, about Madrid, or about Florentino, always complimenting, I have the feeling that he would be a puppet
A while ago he would be my option without hesitation, but today, and even being anti Mourinho ... I would doubt very much
Pochettino has said again - I think in the gala of The best- that he is in England but that his culture is the Spanish, and hopes that "some year" can happen.
I'm not saying you can't sign him, but a Pochettino-United project evokes something long, at least three years.
If he really wants the job in Madrid he could also stay lurking, some time at Tottenham and wait for the next coach to fall at Madrid instead of embarking on a long project.
Then there is the emotional issue. Considering that he won´t train Barcelona for his past, it could happen that he would rather not betray Tottenham.
Although obviously It´s not the same rivalry and could be acceptable in this case.
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Klopp would not be available - he’s never broken a contract in his life, and I don’t see him coming to Madrid when he has a few years left at Liverpool.
Klopp won't leave for Madrid. He's probably going to German NT after finishing Liverpool contract.
It does seem as though his heart isn't in it as much as it once was. I think he realises Spurs have already peaked with their current group of players and last year's Champions League final was his best chance of achieving a major trophy with that team.
Now Alderweireld, Vertonghen and Eriksen look like they're all on the way out (and probably for nothing) that's going to require another rebuild and Pochettino might not even get the financial means to do it properly.
Now Alderweireld, Vertonghen and Eriksen look like they're all on the way out (and probably for nothing) that's going to require another rebuild and Pochettino might not even get the financial means to do it properly.
Klopp won't leave Liverpool. He always said himself as a long term guy...
One blip?
Have you been under a rock?What, like Mourinho you mean ? I don’t agree with that tired old thinking.at all. Respect is quickly earned and Howe already has huge respect in the game. The likes of Pogba will have come up against him plenty of times and already have a feel for his management.
I agree with others who think he is nailed on for Spurs when Poch does exit and if he’s good enough for them he’d do for us too. Howe always appears very controlled, never hear him ranting or losing it. He’s impressive and sooner or later a big club will take a chance on him.
Maybe, sometimes players will be exhausted with manager methods and need fresh start under someone else who can come up with fresh ideas. Looks like they have stagnated and even regressed.
Not only that but he seems to be struggling a lot with getting out of bad spells. He is good but i' not sure he has what it takes to be a long term manager and to motivate underachieving squads. When things go bad they only seem to be getting worse and, unlike us, they have a strong core of good and experienced players.
Klopp has his heart set on Bayern. My bet is, he'll be at Bayern within the next 3 seasons.
Daniel Levy and Jose Mourinho would be a match made in hell.
Make it happen.
Make it happen.
1st September: https://talksport.com/football/5957...ttino-party-christian-eriksen-jan-vertonghen/
Celebrating close of the window.
24th September: https://www.football.london/tottenh...spurs-press-conference-live-mauricio-16976156
Celebrating close of the window.
24th September: https://www.football.london/tottenh...spurs-press-conference-live-mauricio-16976156
Sorry, but Real Madrid deserve Mourinho. A match made in disaster.
Would you want him as Utd manager?
I think the same way.
Burn out from the manager and the squad.
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