The Pogba out brigade is led by Pogba himself with Raiola
Is Pogba as good as gone?
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How do you make that estimation? An ankle arthroscopy can see you sidelined for a few weeks, around 3-5 weeks.
Simon Stone is probably the most reliable journalist in the UK. It might as well have come from the club.
And how long before he gets fit? I'm sure "Pogba's people" would want serious precautions this time so he doesn't get injured again. After all, he is the cash cow that needs to be protected.
I just don't get why this wasn't spotted and operated on sooner? I thought he'd just had an operation too, or am I wrong? Hard to keep up with whats real and whats venomous bullshit.
Have we sacked our manager ?
I just told you, it can be 3 to 5 weeks. It can be a little bit longer but it depends entirely on the procedure, its causes and the patient.
Yep, people like you at the bottom. Need more supporters like you pal
Fergie called it right years ago when he called this cnut a shitbag and told him to take Pogba with him.
Every move he has made, from Le Havre to Utd to Juve to Utd and whoever is stupid enough to take him on next, has been antagonistic and shrouded with animosity.
feck the pair of them off.
Yeah Manchester United needs more supporters who clap for McT being mediocre while misplacing passes. Pogba who comes in after 3 months of injury and does more than Fred/McT/Lingard/Pereira/Mata combined did during those three months needs to be sold.
Selling the only player who will walk into any other team in the world will surely be good for Manchester United. Get another (British) huff and puff player and everything will be fine.
Fergie also wanted to keep Pogba. He hated Raiola but wanted to keep Pogba. Fergie made a mistake with Pogba. He didnt think Pogba was ready but Pogba left and walked into a (better) midfield at Juventus. Fergie didnt like any agents and because of that he missed out on signing Hazard and Moura for example.
He needs to go. The club needs this drama like a hole in the head. Things were so much more peaceful when he was out injured earlier in the season.
Real won't pay big money for him. United's best chance is a player + cash deal. It might actually help Ed get a signing over the line.
Real won't pay big money for him. United's best chance is a player + cash deal. It might actually help Ed get a signing over the line.
That's the time for the operated area to heal, then the player needs recovery and getting fit again, taking measures to prevent a future similar injury and starting to get match fit again. You think all this will happen in 5 weeks? That is laughable.
No it wasn't
it's been Pogba Pogba Pogba Pogba all season even when he was clearly injured and out of action for months.This has been handled poorly by the club. I’m inclined to believe he’s genuinely injured, especially given the Euros take place in the summer, but there’s this feeling that the entire situation is a web of lies. The ‘his people’ line from Ole is particularly poor.
The sad thing is that I believe Pogba being fit is the difference between ending the season well and not. It’s so frustrating.
The sad thing is that I believe Pogba being fit is the difference between ending the season well and not. It’s so frustrating.
It's Sir Alex to you, not "Fergie" and he was definitely right on Pogba and Raiola.
If we ignore all the narratives around Pogba. In theory, you don't necessarily see or fix everything with Xrays, CTs, and MRI, sometimes the only thing that tells you that something is wrong is the patient complaining about pains or discomfort. Other times surgery can lead to scar tissue problems which will require an other intervention to fix it. So as along as we don't have access to his medical record we can't seriously blame anyone, United's medical staff or Pogba.
I get Riola's comments aren't helpful but I think he did one interview with Sky that was actually positive about how Pogba wants to be at united and his heart is there but also needs to be part of a successful club, which we all want. The other interview I think is in response to the clubs briefing the media about his demands for Haaland. Part of his game to make it look like Haaland signed for Dortmund because it's the better choice.
As for the injury, he's injured, he's tried coming back a few times and had a reaction. People need to get over that. It's not a big cover up or conspiracy it's simple fact. He isn't the first. Owen Hargreaves for example was always coming back from injury and relapsing.
As for the injury, he's injured, he's tried coming back a few times and had a reaction. People need to get over that. It's not a big cover up or conspiracy it's simple fact. He isn't the first. Owen Hargreaves for example was always coming back from injury and relapsing.
So Pogba is a nice lad that he really wanted to sign?
Sure. Playing a midfield with Rafael was a better option than playing Pogba who was only a few months later playing in a midfield with Pirlo and Vidal.
Fergie was wrong about Pogba. Just like how he was wrong about selling Stam. He didnt do everything right.
No that's 1 to 2 weeks. And as I said in this thread or an other, you actually see that all the time in the NFL, I used Linval Joseph as an example who was operated early November and was on the field in early December, it was a knee arthroscopy.
Pogba the new Owen Hargreaves. That's a sentence that every United fan wants to hear, surely.
Pogba been sold for good money can make us a stronger team if the board can get their act together. It doesn't have to mean we can't go in the right direction from it. Two top quality players could come out of pogba been sold. Don't f**k it up Woodward or Ole please.
I agree Riola is a Cnut and Pogba is a fantastic player that we needed to keep hold of at the time.
Without "Fergie", you'd be supporting your local village football team so pipe down and show respect to Sir Alex Ferguson.
So you're saying Pogba could have had the operation back in September and would have been back by October or early November?
You could find other players quite easily, however the point being those players weren't being accused of faking an injury, because they were actually, as is the case here, simply injured.
I don't think RM is that interested nor has the cash. Probably PSG imo.
It depends on the reason for the surgery but yes it is totally possible to have a surgery and comeback within weeks.
My money would be on PSG getting him.
Not likely since they have shit players and play shit football. I started to follow Manchester United because they had exciting players. Players like Pogba.
If you want to get rid of exciting football players who are better than other players maybe you should just follow your very own lower league village team?
Yep, people like you at the bottom. Need more supporters like you pal
Fergie called it right years ago when he called this cnut a shitbag and told him to take Pogba with him.
Every move he has made, from Le Havre to Utd to Juve to Utd and whoever is stupid enough to take him on next, has been antagonistic and shrouded with animosity.
feck the pair of them off.
I don't work for the club. What was wrong that I said there?
problem is with all operations, he's not even worth that much anymore. this goes to the "lets wait till it works!" crowd. nah, its not always we will be able to have a 100M cash cow, who can sponsor a improvement in 2 or 3 areas of the pitch (coutinho at liverpool). He's barely worth half of that now.
Sir Alex Ferguson said:
Go support City then, or Barcelona, or PSG. Nice comeback, by the way, you are so smart that you had to copy my jibe at you. You are as smart as you are a good proper fan.
I'm sure there are City supporters here that can give you directions to Bluemoon and would recommend you to get signed up there immediately. You'd fit in in that environment like a glove.
@JPRouve A good player that disappointed and disrespected Sir Alex, those are the words from the gaffer. So Sir Alex was ultimately right in judging his character back then.
Don't know if he's as good as gone but he will make a case for us to sell him.
I've said it in another thread but that's what I think:
I've said it in another thread but that's what I think:
- Noone is willing to pay our price.
- Real's interest has cooled.
- Pogba and Mino will paint Pogba as a team player who wants to stay at the club.
- Pogba will pull out of games citing injury etc, hoping we'll lower our asking price.
- If we don't lower our price, Pogba will walk on a free. He'll refuse all contract extension.
If he's having surgery, is that him out for the rest of the season?
He didn't judge his character, he judged the situation with Raiola. And offering him a contract tells you everything you need to know about what SAF thought about Pogba but you are in the business of not using logic when it comes to Pogba.
I want to support Ole but it’s not easy at times, last night was a big let down. Having said that it wouldn’t surprise me if we go and win at Wolves. Can’t help wondering how we would have done if Ryan Giggs had followed Sir Alex permanently, we’ll never know.
Sure Pogba was offered a contract but he disrespected Sir Alex. That's despicable and people should not excuse it when Pogba continues to disrespect the club.
Settle down here, there is nothing despicable in deciding to leave a club. And SAF issue is that he thinks that Pogba made his made up early and if it was the case would have liked to know about it sooner.