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That_Bloke said:
I'd say interpretations and it happens with every religion.

Not sure what you're getting at. If Shia is an ideology, so is Sunna. I personally find your analogy a bit wonky to say the least. I personally see Sunna and Shia as two different interpretations of the same religious source. A bit like Catholics and Protestants. Hating Shia believers makes you a biggoted asshole and anti-muslim, because Shiites are muslims. The same goes for hating Sunnis. Or Jews. Or Christians. Or Buddhists. Or Atheists. You get the gist of it.

You also can't compare Zionism with Shia. Shia is an islamic religious belief. Zionism is a nationalist ideology born out of the prevalent antisemitism and mass persecutions in Europe.
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I should have been more clear. I wasn't comparing Shia with Zionism. I just gave a, lazy maybe, example. As the Shia and Sunni are what most people are aware of. It was just an example but I should have been clearer.
 
4bars said:
preparing the next phase of ethnic cleansing . They will evacuate Gaza and never allowed to return. I hope it happens to safe as many lives possible. But is ethnic cleansing and no one can deny it
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Palestinians will carry out attacks from there giving the Israelis an excuse to extend their security apparatus into the sinai again, it will be like they never left.
 
BarstoolProphet said:
It's almost like it was written by The Onion.
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This bit is hilarious:

Ben Gvir used the opportunity to promote his efforts to make it easier for civilians to get a gun license, stressing "weapons save lives."
 
maniak said:
You did, by suggesting a ruling from a court is all that matters. We all know he did it, yet he was walked free. So using your logic he must be innocent.

You can use all the deflections you want but everyone and their dog know it's only a matter a time before this is officially and widely considered a genocide. You and israel are just hoping that happens after the genocide is actually complete and they get all the land they want.
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Outside of warped pro Israeli circles I think we're pretty much already there on the widely considered part.
 


I think this interview will cause some storm in the media. Specifically the bit about Hamas.
 
Incredible that most of the propaganda by the zionist regime is to justify starving and murdering children.

You would think that should give its supporters a pause but no.
 
Giggsyking said:
I think they rejected it because they already in two days time are going to decide on the existing measures.
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Different case.

They declined because the initial measures should be enough to stop the killing. They are also another useless UN organization playing politics and doesn't care much for human loss.

 
- Israeli settler in the West Bank:"I can admit that there's something fascist about me. I'm not hiding it. I don't believe there's another way."
- NYT journalist: "Really? I sense a lack of political correctness."


 
That_Bloke said:
- Israeli settler in the West Bank:"I can admit that there's something fascist about me. I'm not hiding it. I don't believe there's another way."
- NYT journalist: "Really? I sense a lack of political correctness."


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I know that clip. It's quite something how honest these settlers are. It's from this NYTimes piece.

 


I remember in the days after Oct 7, the debate going something like :
"these animals kill children unlike us!"
"actually you kill many more"
"well, that's from bombing, not face to face, that's different, not intentional, not celebrated".

 
berbatrick said:


I remember in the days after Oct 7, the debate going something like :
"these animals kill children unlike us!"
"actually you kill many more"
"well, that's from bombing, not face to face, that's different, not intentional, not celebrated".

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Imagine how sick you would have.to be to do shit like that? Also, I remember when American and UK soldiers have faced punishment for things not too dissimilar. These monsters do this with impunity.
 
VorZakone said:
I know that clip. It's quite something how honest these settlers are. It's from this NYTimes piece.

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Thanks for the link.

They're honest because they truly believe in their (racial) superiority and a god given right to own the land. Therefore they don't see their actions as inherently reprehensible. I ain't even mad at her.

Absolutely nothing new under the sun, it's the mindset that naturally finds its way and grows in a colonial society, especially when mixed with a healthy dose of religious fanatism. History is littered with similar examples. In the video, they follow up with clips of Afrikaaners who reason along the same lines.

What makes my blood boil, is the absolute lack of pushback and repercussion. People lost their jobs because they advocated for a Palestinian state and this fascist gets a "Yo, this ain't politically correct".
 
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Macron says recognizing a Palestinian state is not a taboo for France
‘’Recognizing a Palestinian state is not a taboo for France,’’ Macron said Friday at a meeting in Paris with Jordan’s King Abdullah. ‘’We owe it to Palestinians, whose aspirations have been trampled on for too long. We owe it to Israelis, who lived through the worst antisemitic massacre of our time. We owe it to a region that is seeking to rise above those who promote chaos and seed revenge.’’
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https://apnews.com/article/france-macron-palestinians-israel-5d37250a1e55c15c2847fc22b4975ba1
 
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