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Jamal rayan on twitter saying that a retired army by the name of McGregor has said that American special forces have attempted to rescue hostages taken by Hamas but withdrew due to heavy losses
I saw that interview. Seems like a load of bollocks though.
 
American special forces? So the US has boots on the ground?

That's the tweet and name. I have no idea of it's true or whether the guy, Jamal Rayan, is reliable etc. Twitter isn't my thing.

I put it up to see if anyone could shed more light on it.

Not sur what constitutes boots on the ground anymore tbh. We know America sent some military personnel to offer advice on a ground offensive
 
I saw that interview. Seems like a load of bollocks though.


Yeah I wasn't posting a statement of fact or anything. Just something that was sent on a group I'm in. So I put it in here knowing some will shed more light on it
 
Jamal rayan on twitter saying that a retired army by the name of McGregor has said that American special forces have attempted to rescue hostages taken by Hamas but withdrew due to heavy losses
Link?

I’d be surprised if 1SFOD-D went boots dry trying to rescue hostages while there was a bombing campaign ongoing. Sending in HRT would also be foolish.

But who knows?
 
This is getting stupid now. Enough people have condemned Hamas actions and still feel Israel is wrong now.

This whole oh but 10.7 is getting pathetic

If Balfour hadn't signed his treaty Hamas wouldn't exist and thousands of Arabs and Jews would be alive
You can't roll back the years and there's no point dwelling on it. What's done is done.

The most important thing now is to think about a solution that would stop the madness and allow both peoples there to live in peace.
 
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You can't roll back the years and there's no point dwelling on it. What's done is done.

The most important thing now is to think about a solution that would stop the madness and allow both peoples there live in peace.


I think maybe the point of my comments was missed.

However the issue is to stop this senseless killing that is going on. No excuses. No but Hamas... No but Balfour... No but west Bank...

However to point to one then you point to all. And not decide the date that suits your narrative
 
Not very good at the whole links thing.

This was a tweet sent on a WhatsApp group I'm on.

I posted the twitterers (?) Name and the general who said it. Maybe someone can post the actual tweet?
This is what I've found from a quick search.



An interview with Tucker Carlson. Seems questionable how he'd even know such a thing.
 
His handle is @jamalrayyan

The post I've seen is in Arabic with English translation
Seems like mostly all of his posts are in Arabic, only a few with English translations.

That’s a huge scoop if true, but unnecessarily, albeit knowingly, inflammatory if known to be bullshit.
 
Seems like mostly all of his posts are in Arabic, only a few with English translations.

That’s a huge scoop if true, but unnecessarily, albeit knowingly, inflammatory if known to be bullshit.


See some of the posts above.

I personally wasn't making a statement of fact here. Just posted it to see what others knew about it.
 
See some of the posts above.

I personally wasn't making a statement of fact here. Just posted it to see what others knew about it.
Not saying that you were in the slightest, I understood what you were doing, it’s a tweet that I would have linked as it’s potentially a game-changing event.
 
This is all the fault of the Romans for kicking jews out of the holy land and secondly umar ibn Khattab shares blame for allowing the Jews back into the holy land.

You joke but is there a defined period of time after which claims to a specific piece of land or nation are rendered null?
 
Not saying that you were in the slightest, I understood what you were doing, it’s a tweet that I would have linked as it’s potentially a game-changing event.


I think it was the times that did a breakdown of what military assistance America had sent to Israel. From the ships as warning to others to munitions for iron Dome and planes and weapons etc

I remember the 2000 marines figure in there. To provide assistance in hostile territory for medical assistance, transport and guidance etc.

Maybe the McGregor guy has just used that to make up stuff. Or maybe there is truth in helping the IDF getting the hostages.
 
It's what some Israeli politicians have been saying in public over the last few weeks.

Obviously Sisi won't let the Israelis dump them in the Sinai right now, if he does every single Egyptian would be out on the streets asking for his head.
I am not sure if Israel wants to take Gaza land (they definitely want West Bank though). But I do not understand how if a) they want to take Gaza land and removing Gazans from there and b) Sisi is in Israel's/US's pocket can both be true while Sisi is blocking Gazans to leave. I mean if he is in line with Israel, he would open the border for 'humanitarian purposes' which would help Israel to achieve their plan.
 


This is in response to Musk providing Star link access to humanitarian agencies in Gaza.
 
I think it was the times that did a breakdown of what military assistance America had sent to Israel. From the ships as warning to others to munitions for iron Dome and planes and weapons etc

I remember the 2000 marines figure in there. To provide assistance in hostile territory for medical assistance, transport and guidance etc.

Maybe the McGregor guy has just used that to make up stuff. Or maybe there is truth in helping the IDF getting the hostages.
Could be, but America is going to advise for as long as possible before even entertaining the idea of putting boots on the ground. Mogadishu is just but one internal reason for delaying Americans deploying onto Gazan soil & that debacle is still resonant within the Army.
 
I am not sure if Israel wants to take Gaza land (they definitely want West Bank though). But I do not understand how if a) they want to take Gaza land and removing Gazans from there and b) Sisi is in Israel's/US's pocket can both be true while Sisi is blocking Gazans to leave. I mean if he is in line with Israel, he would open the border for 'humanitarian purposes' which would help Israel to achieve their plan.

I'm not making a comment specifically on whether this is true or not but this is probably one of the only scenarios which is an existential threat to Sisi. 2 million angry Palestinians in the Northern Sinai, likely to be permanently settled there if they do end up leaving (as Israel won't let them back in ), in a country who's economy is tanking and perceived to be the leader who dealt the literal fatal blow to the Palestinian cause forever.

He'd have his head on a spike. There would probably be a coup against him by another general.
 
I'm not used to Musk being on the right side of things.

He would be in this case, although he claims it’s for “internationally recognized aid groups” only. Not sure how that would be regulated. In either case, the Israelis are in the wrong in trying to stop it (not sure if they can in any case).
 
I'm not used to Musk being on the right side of things.
Wow, that's really big of him.
It took a lot of @-ing on Twitter and general lobbying (if that’s even the right term in this sense). Can’t tell you how many WhatsApp’s I received in various groups about an action plan to get him to do it. Glad it worked though.
 

:lol: :lol:
In many ways I kind of respect Trump. He is honest with his views, he doesn't hide his racism and Islamophobia, unlike the left who are just a hypocritical bunch.
Either which way you look at it, America as a super-power is on its last breath.
 
My god. Because those necessities are crucial for those living in the house to survive? Why would materiel to support a larger military force be any different in composition?

Targets, men & their supplies, aren't always stationary, you know?

Lets agree to disagree...we would go on circles because i can still going on the inconguences