Two state solution. UN blue helmets, etc... And certainly not bombarding civilian population for little return.
I mean, there is pretty good solutions before reaching ethnic cleansing and possible genocide
Israel’s decades long occupation and oppression of the Palestinian people is what created Hamas. Israel can try to eradicate Hamas but they won’t succeed without a total genocide of the Palestinian people. As long as a people are continually oppressed through military force, there will be groups amongst them who will fight back with their own violence and militancy. It’s inevitable as we’ve seen throughout history.
Yes, I am. What I saw three weeks ago absolutely broke me. I want Hamas gone and I want to feel secure, whatever the cost.
I'm all for the two-state solution. I think it's the only real solution and I'm sorrowful for the time and life wasted over the last few decades.
But it's not relevant with Hamas on the other side of our border. That has to be taken care of before anything else.
These scumbags just think the same as you though, they've convinced themselves that these people need to be removed so that they aren't.Terrorists. Pure and simple.
This just popped up on my YT feed. Mixed reviews...
Go on, elaborate.I can't comprehend how the perpetrators of these actions can justify them to themselves given their religious beliefs.
An 2022 Israeli doc on a massacre that occurred in the village of Tantura in 1948.What was this? It's not showing any more.
Seen some talking about Egypt being offered $20bn by Israel to accept Palestinian refugees.
So you sacrifice instead (until today) 8000 Palestinian women and child, because those 8000 means little compared to IDF soldiers lives?A more surgical operation is plausible, but would cause the deaths of many more Israeli soldiers. A price we're not willing to pay.
Hamas is hiding behind those women and children. it's unforunate, but that's the problem Hamas caused and is still causing by itself - first by doing that and then by making us desperate to destroy its military abilities.
Seen some talking about Egypt being offered $20bn by Israel to accept Palestinian refugees.
Maybe I'm too jaded but I see that as the political reality. Going in without the aerial bombardment would mean so many Israeli soldier lives that it would become politically untenable, the administration would become unpopular.Dude, you sound utterly broken. I find everything you're saying pretty abhorrent, but I suppose I have to give credit for being honest about your sentiments, which is a lot more than I can say for others.
I dunno man. What do you think Hamas was trying to achieve with its attack? They don't have a political goal, eg two state solution. It just looked like random murder for kicks.Once again as with your previous reply (and I do appreciate your honesty), this very same arguement could be reversed. You've effectively justified the murder of thousands of Palestinians based on Oct 7th and the sentiment around it. But what you also do when making that argument is justify Oct 7th because the very same argument you made, if you replace Israel with Palestine, the Israeli Government with Hamas and Oct 7th with the years of Israeli subjugation, then all the deaths can be justified. At the end of the day either you are against the unjust killing of innocents and don't support it and therefore are against the what the Israeli government are doing as well as Hamas, or you are for the unjust killing of civilians. It can't be one rule for Hamas and another rule for the Israeli government.
No, there is another: iranThe Israeli Caftards can't do anything about this conflict, you can carry on asking them questions but they're as impotent as anyone of us. Only one entity on this planet can affect an outcome and it's not even Israel, it's the United States.
I dunno man. What do you think Hamas was trying to achieve with its attack? They don't have a political goal, eg two state solution. It just looked like random murder for kicks.
Was the attack timed to contravene the next major step in normalizing relations via the Abraham Accords?I dunno man. What do you think Hamas was trying to achieve with its attack? They don't have a political goal, eg two state solution. It just looked like random murder for kicks.
Hamas don't want a two state solution and the Palestinians have rejected something similar in the past.Two state solution. UN blue helmets, etc... And certainly not bombarding civilian population for little return.
I mean, there is pretty good solutions before reaching ethnic cleansing and possible genocide
Think they only fired the ambassador. Unless it means the same.I thought Colombia had broken diplomatic relations last week?
I think that is what Hamas's backers, Iran, got from it, but Hamas?Was the attack timed to contravene the next major step in normalizing relations via the Abraham Accords?
Think the poster already clarified that he doesn't care.So you sacrifice instead (until today) 8000 Palestinian women and child, because those 8000 means little compared to IDF soldiers lives?
You know, the usual foundation of religion - Be kind and you'll be rewarded.Go on, elaborate.
I dunno man. What do you think Hamas was trying to achieve with its attack? They don't have a political goal, eg two state solution. It just looked like random murder for kicks.
It was always present and that's the fecked up thing with the Occupation. But indeed not in these proportions. Hamas managed to get Israel's retaliation down to the level of what they did on 7/10 and are going to beat them with experience.I don't know about that, but it does seem like the Hamas attack have turned the entire state of Israel into an "Its either us or Hamas" mindset, which was entirely predictable after the severity of the initial attacks on 10.7 . There was no way Israel wouldn't have responded like this given the power differential in the relationship.
Palestinians will carry on fighting for their state with or without Iran, keep in mind Iran wasn't funding any militant groups pre 1979.No, there is another: iran
That's the thing, that savagery was its own goal.They did have a political motive of springing Hamas militants from Israeli prisons. Unfortunately the Genghis Kahn style barbarism on 10.7 was so unexpectedly successful that it managed to initiate their own demise.
IDF has no confidence in it's troops. Far easier to press a button and launch missiles from a safe distance. If innocents die as a result... So be it, it seems.So you sacrifice instead (until today) 8000 Palestinian women and child, because those 8000 means little compared to IDF soldiers lives?
They’re just the lackey, the functionary. Basically a tool.I think that is what Hamas's backers, Iran, got from it, but Hamas?
True, but right now, Iran is a player. It's not just the US.Palestinians will carry on fighting for their state with or without Iran, keep in mind Iran wasn't funding any militant groups pre 1979.
Are there any more superlatives? Within 2 weeks we've gone from Oct 7 being like 9/11 to being akin to a Holocaust to now comparing it to ghengis khan.They did have a political motive of springing Hamas militants from Israeli prisons. Unfortunately the Genghis Kahn style barbarism on 10.7 was so unexpectedly successful that it managed to initiate their own demise.
I just can't see what the strategy here was for Hamas. Yes, they might have wanted to trade a few prisoners. Maybe a bit of revenge. But what political strategic goal were they trying to advance, like troops out, or independence or nationhood, or draw attention to the cause or something? I can't see it. There wasn't one, it was a pogrom for them and a win for their backers.They’re just the lackey, the functionary. Basically a tool.
Are there any more superlatives? Within 2 weeks we've gone from Oct 7 being like 9/11 to being akin to a Holocaust to now comparing it to ghengis khan.
