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No, it does not. If fact what happened in Srebrenica and what happened on October 7 has so much in common. You don't have to take my word for it. Read what the director of the Srebrenica Memorial Centre thinks.
https://n1info.ba/english/news/emir...-of-antisemitism-criticises-hamas-supporters/
It probably does yeah as both were atrocities. That doesn't absolve anything that follows though (again an argument in that thread). I'm assuming you haven't bothered to read the thread I posted which is no surprise. Forget your own words go look at those denying genocide in there and you'll see the obvious flaws of your own actions.
Including trying to play this "let me google a quote" game. There was a letter signed by over a thousand Bosnian genocide survivors submitted to the ICJ in support of Palestine and against Israel. Which you'll instantly dismiss of course, they're probably just anti-Semites or something right.
Lets stop this petty nonsense about games and googling quotes when you googled like 16 year old thread.
But as you mentioned the letter, lets stay there. You see, also in Bosnia you have different perspectives on the issue. As you have everywhere else. Only this thread seems to be a parallel universe.
As you just dismissed the director of the Srebrenica Memorial Centre? Just like that. I am not going to convince you, you are not going to convince me. I am not even trying to convince you. But this Israel - Palestine Discussion, so don't be surprised different positions to yours are voiced here.
See that's the difference the rest of us are engaging in debate because it furthers understanding, you're just here to blindly state a position and not engage. If you read more carefully you'd see I just agreed with the director on the parralels.
There's a lot of relevant information being shared in this thread that anyone acting in good faith would take onboard or critque. You claim it's not genocide with no justification provided, you're complaining there's a one sided view here and then failing to counter it with any substance. At least those in the Kosovo thread had the balls to stand behind their wild claims.
Whatever agenda you're trying to push you're doing it a great disservice.
Of course he doesn't engage. He's not engaged in weeks, he's just a sound board of the Israeli Government.
That's his style.
Cries wolf, "argues" in bad faith, then hits the road when called out on his BS. Rinse and repeat.
At this point there's nothing the supporters of Israel's criminal conduct of this unprecedented massacre in Gaza can hang onto without looking like straight sociopaths.
I left UNRWA because I haven't read a report from them, same goes for Amnesty. Quoted he said, she said statements I left out, those are many and hard to fact check.
The IDF were using it as a base of operations and an interrogation ground. They wouldn't have done so had they deemed the location a risk. This was straight up a controlled demolition of an important civilian institute for seemingly no other reason than to punish the people of Gaza. Likewise with them demolishing the cemetery. None of these actions are indicative of self-defence nor specifically targeting Hamas.
Watching Miller here awkwardly tip toe around the issue to desperately absolve the Israelis is pathetic viewing. They're so compromised by Israel they can't bring themselves to even condemn the indefensible. It really does make you wonder how far Israel could go before forcing a smidgen of condemnation from the US. Putin must absolutely be loving this considering its completely invalidated the US' integrity and seemingly redefined the rules of what's considered appropriate and proportional in war.
You are right, I jumped into quick conclusion there.
Here you make too much of a generalization. Of course there is a lot relevant information, argumentation of substance and so on. But so is a lot nonsense as well - people re-posting their twitter feeds on daily basis, people posting content of bogus sources (like people who are known antisemites and promote 9/11 conspiracy theories), ever present emotional appeal. Lets stop here, do you know how many times is name Kfir Bibas mentioned in this thread? Zero. There were a few outright antisemitic posts that mods had to delete. Here you have another example of claim made here "I think Gaza will be taken by Israel and never returned." Let's see how many replies will require the justification of this wild claim. This is internet forum, people post in a way they see fit, based or their availibility and so on. The post are long, short, opinions, analysis, repeting the same argument again and again, justified, not justified etc. And as long as it is within the rules it will continue in that way.
DM me links to reports you find relevant.
Christ, who cares what he says? Yeah, those nutters of the messiah and the third temple do exist, just like there are religious loonies everywhere. There's plenty of serious stuff to discuss. This soldier's video is meaningless.
You don't believe Netanyahu, the parliament, Biden, etc, don't believe in exactly the same thing? I know Biden is Christian by birth but that doesn't change anything.
Through all this 'distraction' of killing countless children has anyone asked how Masjid Al Aqsa is faring? No? Because the Zionists (extremist Christians, like Biden, and extremist Jews) are doing exactly what is foretold in the Qur'an.
Al Aqsa is the prison which these people are destined to open eventually. I'll leave everyone to Google the rest.
Just wanted to bring this up now as we're edging closer and people are beginning to slowly wake up around the world.
Not that shocking.
No. Netanyahu certainly doesn't believe it. He's not religious at all and doesn't believe in all that crap, even though he hides it in order to appease his coalition partners. Most of the parliament members don't believe it either.
You took Bill fecking Maher words as facts, and you accuse others of posting twitter feeds, the audacity you have
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/18/nyregion/hate-crime-food-vendor-nyc.html
Ex-State Dept. Official Ordered to Bias Training After Anti-Muslim Rant
If Stuart Seldowitz completes the program, the charges he faces for berating a food truck vendor would be dropped, prosecutors said. A Muslim group called it a “sweetheart deal.”
Not only the US government is complicit, but also their judiciary system, a fecking disgrace.
What does that mean, exactly? He will be taught to declare how people in every conflict deserve to die when he is ordering from a food cart?
I'd forgotten all about this cnut. No chance he's doing jail time considering his former role in government.
Calm down. Your opinion on Bill Maher means nothing to me. If I find it appropriate, I will post it again.You took Bill fecking Maher words as facts, and you accuse others of posting twitter feeds, the audacity you have
Bill Maher is stupid, smug wanker at the best of times but that particular section was possibly his worst ever take.
Bill Maher, is an expert on international conflicts, specially the ME, I would recommend you to continue using him as a source of information.
This is one of the wildest takes I've read here and there's been many.
Do you know that this makes you sound exactly like the religious nutcases you're criticizing?
Mind blown. Explains everything.
I've been a nut case here for a long time. That post you can ignore but seemed the most logical place to put it in. Should have been in the religion thread so my bad.
Can't seem to start a private conversation, I'll try again later.
Israeli Women Fight on Front Line in Gaza, a First
After a long struggle for acceptance, Israel’s female combat soldiers are pushing new boundaries after rushing into battle on Oct. 7.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-women-soldiers
Thought this was a parody at first when I saw it on Twitter.
After a long struggle for acceptance, Israel’s female combat soldiers are pushing new boundaries after rushing into battle on Oct. 7.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/19/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-women-soldiers
Thought this was a parody at first when I saw it on Twitter.
https://www.reuters.com/world/mexic...nflict-court-over-possible-crimes-2024-01-18/
The Palestinian authority have welcomed the approach, the Israeli government did not comment yet, buy Israel is not a customary to the ICC.
I would care if i was from gaza and this guy would have a rifle, as he does, pointing at me.
Saying who cares when this guy ia the actual executioner is so insensitive. Is not a nutcase from somewhere juat talking shit. He is killing people under this train of thought
Maybe the people he shot care? Those who he killed already probably don't care much, though.
I love this this game, I wonder what he'll say tomorrow?