Italian Serie A - 2020-2021
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If Milan lose today but beat Atalanta next week, and Juventus win against Bologna on the final day of the season, all three teams would finish on 78 points and the final positions would go down to a mini league of results between the three respective teams. Atalanta would finish top, Juventus second and Milan third which means Juventus would sneak through into the CL in 4th spot.
Sky have Milan in 5th? My understanding was they should be ahead of Juve based on the head to head?
Nope. Since milan would beat atalanta, they'd have 6 points in the mini-league, atalanta would have 7. Juventus with 4 would be out
Also, oh no, benevento noooooo
My bad, I forgot to calculate Milan getting the 3 points in the mini league. Even better! Hopefully Juventus can be joined in the illustrious Europa League with the scouse cnuts.Nope. Since milan would beat atalanta, they'd have 6 points in the mini-league, atalanta would have 7. Juventus with 4 would be out
Also, oh no, benevento noooooo
https://www.sofascore.com/tournament/football/italy/serie-a/23
According to Sofascore, Milan is 4th.
Torino safe if they can grind out the most boring 0-0 in history in Rome in midweek. This is Serie A after all.
Benevento would've had same situation if they'd held onto the 1-0, still had to go to Turin next week and win.
This does make Cagliari safe though so should make Meelan task easier later to wrap up CL with 3 points.
Benevento would've had same situation if they'd held onto the 1-0, still had to go to Turin next week and win.
This does make Cagliari safe though so should make Meelan task easier later to wrap up CL with 3 points.
Locatelli gives Sassuolo the lead. Excellent long ball from him leading up to the penalty.
Milan been completely nulified so far, don't look like scoring at all with no space to run into and Nainggolan running the show in midfield, good save just now from Diego Godin header from Donnnarumma.
Cagliari certainly not playing like a team that has confirmed their safety. Milan really needs to step it up, as going to Atalanta needing a win would be massive pressure.
If Milan drop points here, that's a lifeline for Juventus who would have two paths to Chamoions League qualification (Napoli and Milan, the second of whom have to face Atalanta in its last match).
This is a crucial last 20 minutes
This is a crucial last 20 minutes
Milan against Atalanta would be tricky for them. I wouldn't back them. At home against Cagliari is a must win, only have themselves to blame if they fail to reach the CL
Similar to Liverpool, looks like Juve have picked up some form at the end of the season and will sneak into the CL places.
Milan look completely toothless.
Milan look completely toothless.
Milan bottling it.
Very poor by Milan.
Milan fecked up
Milan with so many wrong decisions in final third tonight. Looks like they used up all their goals for the season away to Torino.
Now probably going to have to win away to Atalanta...bad bad bad.
Now probably going to have to win away to Atalanta...bad bad bad.
Credit to Cagliari, they easily could have rolled over after that result this morning.
That's a terrible result for Milan. They looked so toothless without Ibrahimovic attracting multiple defenders towards him. I also wondered why they started Rebic up front on his own when he's better with another forward to work off of. Pioli should have been braver and gone with up front with Rebic on the left.
Unfortunately for Milan, they're letting Juventus back in with this. Cagliari, nonetheless, did play well, and they deserve a point out of this match.
Unfortunately for Milan, they're letting Juventus back in with this. Cagliari, nonetheless, did play well, and they deserve a point out of this match.
Atalanta will need the win themselves on the final day themselves won't they?
No, they can't finish below 4th and have already qualified.
Gasperini already mentioned a week or two ago that getting 2nd place would be massive for a club like Atalanta, so I can see them really going for it next week. Should be a great match.
That makes a Milan win much likely, or at the very least makes Milan's task harder. And they have nobody to blame but themsleves. Had they won tonight, they would have sealed a top 4 spot by virtue of their head to head against Juventus.
He's done very well at Sassuolo given their relatively limited resources. I struggle to think how Sassuolo will be able to adequately replace him. On the other hand, de Zerbi is a solid pickup for Shakhtar and will allow them to continue with their brand of attacking football.
What could have been, a EL season with Liverpool, Juventus and Dortmund
It’s gonna be an awful week for Milan supporters.
4th place race very similar to 2019 when Atalanta Inter and Milan were running for it (we qualified in the last 10 minutes when nainggolan scored and handanovic saved twice. What a night that!!! Heart attack!)
Milan, Napoli and Juve now.
I’m already taking some popcorn and a good beer
4th place race very similar to 2019 when Atalanta Inter and Milan were running for it (we qualified in the last 10 minutes when nainggolan scored and handanovic saved twice. What a night that!!! Heart attack!)
Milan, Napoli and Juve now.
I’m already taking some popcorn and a good beer
Can't believe AC bottled it so epically. All they had to do was win today and then play a safe draw against Atalanta.
I think Milan will have it a bit easier against a bigger team that attacks more Plus Atalanta will play Juve midweek and could have leave some energy there. Milan still have a decent chance to win against Atalanta.
They didn't even need a draw against Atalanta. Had they won today, they could have afforded a loss against Atalanta because they have a superior head to head to Juventus.
Yeah, they’ve bottled it alright. I can’t see any scenario in which Milan win in Bergamo. Atalanta are a far better team and finishing second will be pretty huge for them.
Bottlers all over Europe letting them back in.What could have been, a EL season with Liverpool, Juventus and Dortmund
Yeah good point.
It's still in their hands technically, but I don't see Atalanta over-extending to attack AC.
They have already qualified, right? And AC will need the win. They will have also play mid-week so will be more tired. They are more likely to play a frustrating game and counter attack.
21 shots according to Google and only 2 on target. That is certainly something.
Already in CL but have cup final on Wednesday v Juventus so it might not be their strongest 11. They still have multiple players that will cause Milan problems and their recent record v them is very good indeed, won this game 5-0 last season and 0-3 at San Siro in January and they'll want to secure second.
I know some other European leagues have it as well, but I'm not a fan of head to head (in just two matches) deciding places ahead of goal difference (over the whole season).
It's particularly poor when both teams picked up the same amount of points in those two games, and they still go off goal difference but just for those two matches (one won 2-0, the other 2-1, so finish ahead by 1 goal). Doesn't 'away goals' also come into it at times? So if both games were drawn, the team that drew 1-1 away would finish ahead if the other meeting was 0-0?
I much prefer goal difference over a full season. That gives a truer reflection of the whole 9 months, and gives teams an extra chance not to be further punished by a poor decision when the two teams played. Whereas narrowing it down to just those two matches means something like a controversial goal, or a wrongly disallowed goal, sending off, etc, has even more of a chance of ending up deciding league positions.
It's particularly poor when both teams picked up the same amount of points in those two games, and they still go off goal difference but just for those two matches (one won 2-0, the other 2-1, so finish ahead by 1 goal). Doesn't 'away goals' also come into it at times? So if both games were drawn, the team that drew 1-1 away would finish ahead if the other meeting was 0-0?
I much prefer goal difference over a full season. That gives a truer reflection of the whole 9 months, and gives teams an extra chance not to be further punished by a poor decision when the two teams played. Whereas narrowing it down to just those two matches means something like a controversial goal, or a wrongly disallowed goal, sending off, etc, has even more of a chance of ending up deciding league positions.
Even so, i spoke to soon, Milan bottling it really shakes things up, never expected this result considering their form.
Juventus now has a real shot, but then, so does Milan, if either Napoli or Juventus messes up.
I think it’s only 50/50. Atalanta may not really care their result vs Milan in final game of season (if they loss they will still finished in top 4?), especially when they have another cup final just 4 days before the match. While Napoli looks like they will easily win their final game too. So even Juventus win they could be out.
They do care, just like Cagliari cared despite having nothing to play for, teams are professional.
There really is no guarantee Juve win at Bologna either. They're just really poor. However, it definitely does feel like Milan have absolutely bottled it.
PS: After those comments Agnelli made about Atalanta earlier, would be pretty great if they "gave" Milan the win though.
PS: After those comments Agnelli made about Atalanta earlier, would be pretty great if they "gave" Milan the win though.
Sure, it’s not the same as if they are still fighting for top 4.