Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)

Does make you wonder how they decided she was better qualified than say Dan jarvis for the role
Afterall with all the talk of new politics I'm sure Corbyn wants the best people rather than playing a big party political game and trying to push through his personal agenda over the will of the majority of MP's and those that voted for them...
Jarvis didn't want to be considered for the shadow cabinet in fairness. Thornberry was basically the only person they could find that was open to doing it and was skeptical of Trident.
 
Disgraceful. Everyone knows it was Cantona.
 


Among the most shocking tweets was one that began: "Jews cannot expect us to sympathise with their history under Hitler."

Gurbuz was also a candidate for Warwick Student Union’s Ethnic Minorities Officer, listing in her manifesto a commitment to “Increase awareness of Holocaust Memorial Day”, as well as serving on the Executive Committee of the Warwick Friends of Palestine Society.

The Campaign Against Antisemitism reported the matter to the Labour Party, the University of Warwick, the University of Warwick Students’ Union and the police.

Jonathan Sacerdoti, director of communications at Campaign Against Antisemitism, said: "Our investigations team found these antisemitic tweets on Aysegul Gurbuz’s personal account. There is no defence for that.

"The Holocaust was a uniquely dark chapter of our recent history, when more than 6 million Jews were murdered as part of a plan put in place by Adolf Hitler.

"Not only do the tweets glorify Hitler, they also express hope that Iran will wipe out another 6 million Jews in Israel with a nuclear weapon.
What is wrong with the woman!

Some people need to get a grip on themselves and realise than religion is just a personal belief system. It's not real, it's not fact and one religion is no better or worse than another. Jews have as much right as Muslims to be in this world and their religion is just as important.
 
What is wrong with the woman!

Some people need to get a grip on themselves and realise than religion is just a personal belief system. It's not real, it's not fact and one religion is no better or worse than another. Jews have as much right as Muslims to be in this world and their religion is just as important.

Not defending the actions and her "defence" is laughable if it's taken her until now to delete those tweets but it's worth noting that she was 15-16 at the time of the tweets judging by the date-stamps.
 
Would she be kicked out of Warwick for that?

It's honestly hilarious that she was the SU Ethnic Minorities Officer. :lol: Keeps my belief that anyone who engages in student politics is a tosser.
 
Not defending the actions and her "defence" is laughable if it's taken her until now to delete those tweets but it's worth noting that she was 15-16 at the time of the tweets judging by the date-stamps.
Fine, but if she had half a brain, particularly given her role, she would've deleted those posts yonks ago. Have her views really changed that much in 3-4 years, who knows?
Agreed that student politics breeds total tossers.
 
Not sure who is being more despicable over the Whittingale stuff- the beeb or Labour hypocrites. Do they really believe he runs his department in an odd autocratic bubble?
 
Not sure who is being more despicable over the Whittingale stuff- the beeb or Labour hypocrites. Do they really believe he runs his department in an odd autocratic bubble?

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...ittingdale-story-until-10-days-ago-says-no-10

You can add the Guardian and the Sunday People (or Mirror group) to that list. Indeed the entirety of established media would appear to have shown themselves up on this one.

Since when did promotion to the Cabinet warrant a play-by-play of one's sexual activities or relationships? To say nothing of the People's gutter dwelling.
 
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http://www.theguardian.com/politics...ittingdale-story-until-10-days-ago-says-no-10

You can add the Guardian and the Sunday People (or Mirror group) to that list. Indeed the entirety of established media would appear to have shown themselves up on this one.

Since when did promotion to the Cabinet warrant a play-by-play of one's sexual activities or relationships? To say nothing of the People's gutter dwelling.
When Greenslade is condemning it you know it is the dark side of the left. It's actually quite a sad story. I can't get too cosy in the high horse's saddle, given the strong suspicion is that the right would have done the same in these circumstances. But it irks me somewhat that people don't seem to recognise that the Mirror's virulent bile is as bad as the Mail's. The People was always the pits. Feck knows how it has survived.
 
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...ittingdale-story-until-10-days-ago-says-no-10

You can add the Guardian and the Sunday People (or Mirror group) to that list. Indeed the entirety of established media would appear to have shown themselves up on this one.

Since when did promotion to the Cabinet warrant a play-by-play of one's sexual activities or relationships? To say nothing of the People's gutter dwelling.

Is it not a conflict of interests when four newspapers decline to run the story in him whilst he is handling Leveson? I think that is the political issue here.
 
Is it not a conflict of interests when four newspapers decline to run the story in him whilst he is handling Leveson? I think that is the political issue here.

Do we have any reason to suppose that Whittingdale ha altered policy as a result? The original story could at best be described as fodder for the gossips, and was unlikely to be harmful to his career. Maybe he was a tad embarrassed, yet do we know that cared enough to be intimidated by it?

As for my earlier reply, that was a response to the inferences expressed in the Guardian article. But like Jippy said, it's not a right or left thing, for indeed it seems that the Independent and Daily Mail found some common ground here.
 
Do we have any reason to suppose that Whittingdale ha altered policy as a result? The original story could at best be described as fodder for the gossips, and was unlikely to be harmful to his career. Maybe he was a tad embarrassed, yet do we know that cared enough to be intimidated by it?

As for my earlier reply, that was a response to the inferences expressed in the Guardian article. But like Jippy said, it's not a right or left thing, for indeed it seems that the Independent and Daily Mail found some common ground here.

Should we be comfortable risking it when there's a chance that it has had some sort of effect on policy. Or that they are leaving him alone because he's already on their side, which is just as bad in my book.

The whole thing seems really iffy to me, you can say "since when did someone's promotion to the cabinet warrant a play by play of their sex life" but (putting the thread back on topic) it didn't stop the papers telling us that Corbyn and Abbott may have had a fling 30 odd years ago.

Or how about this one: http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/article1665544.ece

"Cor! Corbyn Jr is Tinder lothario"


I'm sure the papers just got a sudden strike of conscience though!
 
Should we be comfortable risking it when there's a chance that it has had some sort of effect on policy. Or that they are leaving him alone because he's already on their side, which is just as bad in my book.

The whole thing seems really iffy to me, you can say "since when did someone's promotion to the cabinet warrant a play by play of their sex life" but (putting the thread back on topic) it didn't stop the papers telling us that Corbyn and Abbott may have had a fling 30 odd years ago.

Or how about this one: http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/article1665544.ece

"Cor! Corbyn Jr is Tinder lothario"


I'm sure the papers just got a sudden strike of conscience though!
Don't you think someone might query it if he suddenly changed tack on press regulation?

The Corbyn's son story is crap.
 
Don't you think someone might query it if he suddenly changed tack on press regulation?

The Corbyn's son story is crap.

It's not so much him changing tack, it's more then leaving him alone because he's already on their side. It's a slippery slope and all that.
 
Thought he did a good job addressing his previous euroscepticism today whilst also fully backing a Remain vote.
 
It's not so much him changing tack, it's more then leaving him alone because he's already on their side. It's a slippery slope and all that.

Are you not in turn creating a slippery slope of your own? All the media need do is hold back the details of an entirely private story for a few months, and wham, a minister must resign from their post.


Thought he did a good job addressing his previous euroscepticism today whilst also fully backing a Remain vote.

He is either a naive fool, or sold out to the lobbyists in Brussels; the latter does at least put him on side with the PLP i suppose.
 
Wow... Less popular than a pig loving tax dodger who is on the wrong side of the European debate for most of his party supporters.
I can't help but think a credible leader right now and labour would have the conservatives in a lot of trouble

Preference for Prime Minister doesn't necessarily equate to popularity in general. Corbyn's got to work on his sort of Prime Ministerial image in general...people generally don't mind him as a person, but still struggle to see him as any sort of statesman, probably because Cameron and others insist on silly arguments like how he dresses or doesn't belt out to the national anthem every time he's within walking distance of a camera.

He's certainly making progress, and is actually doing quite well in the polls now...which is something a lot of people said could never happen. If there's any time for his party to back him, then it's now. I struggle to see anyone else within the Labour party who'd be doing a better in the polls than Labour generally are right now.
 
He is either a naive fool, or sold out to the lobbyists in Brussels; the latter does at least put him on side with the PLP i suppose.
Or just thinks that whilst he's had problems with the EU in the past, the nasty implications of leaving would make lives worse for people in the UK.
 
Or just thinks that whilst he's had problems with the EU in the past, the nasty implications of leaving would make lives worse for people in the UK.

Which nasty implications would those be precisely? The man professes to care about the poor of this country and the plight of migrants, yet he betrays both groups with his endorsement of previous immigration policy and the EU at this time. Corbyn could plant a banner in the turf for his 'new politics' and separate Labour from the Government; instead, he'll be campaigning alongside the political establishment.
 
Are you not in turn creating a slippery slope of your own? All the media need do is hold back the details of an entirely private story for a few months, and wham, a minister must resign from their post.

Yeah maybe. It's complicated ain't it?
 
Do we have any reason to suppose that Whittingdale ha altered policy as a result? The original story could at best be described as fodder for the gossips, and was unlikely to be harmful to his career. Maybe he was a tad embarrassed, yet do we know that cared enough to be intimidated by it?

As for my earlier reply, that was a response to the inferences expressed in the Guardian article. But like Jippy said, it's not a right or left thing, for indeed it seems that the Independent and Daily Mail found some common ground here.

Yes, there is more to it,

https://www.byline.com/project/48/article/966

That is direct from the horses mouth, one of the journalists who was investigating Whittingdale.
 
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...es-snub-McDonalds-from-Labour-conference.html

VEGGIE Jeremy Corbyn and his Leftie pals have been blasted as “snobs” after McDonald’s was banned from the Labour conference.

The fast food giant wanted a display stand backing British farm produce — and give the hard-up party £30,000.

But the right-on leadership — which has seen several big-money donors pull out since Mr Corbyn took over — told the chain it was not welcome.

How on earth does this qualify as journalism? (there's no evidence his being veg has anything to do with his decision)

Also, <3 Corbyn.
 
I am sure i read somewhere recently that McDonald's were introducing an opt-out for zero hour contracts.
 
Is that another dead cat from Cameron?

Corbyn was all over him on forced academies so he just threw out an offensive and indefensible comment about Sadiq Kahn at the end.
 
Is that another dead cat from Cameron?

Corbyn was all over him on forced academies so he just threw out an offensive and indefensible comment about Sadiq Kahn at the end.
No, I think he was just plain shite today. Comment about Khan all the more laughable as the cleric's apparently shared a platform with Tory ministers as well. Khan's gonna beat Goldsmith by a lot.
 
Is that another dead cat from Cameron?

Corbyn was all over him on forced academies so he just threw out an offensive and indefensible comment about Sadiq Kahn at the end.

Yeah I'd say it was a planned diversion. It's a losing issue for the Tories as they have no real answers, now the headlines will be focused on Khan.

They're annoyingly good at playing the media.
 
Yeah I'd say it was a planned diversion. It's a losing issue for the Tories as they have no real answers, now the headlines will be focused on Khan.

They're annoyingly good at playing the media.

The BBC headline on PMQs:

"PM vows to 'finish the job' on academies"
 
The academies proposals won't pass (at least i hope not), there are just too many Government rebels when combined with the opposition parties.
 


So not only was he campaigning for the Tory, it was also against Khan :lol: Delicious.