Got a bad feeling about this.
Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
BBC now confirming he is on the ballott. Great news.
Even Liverpool got a chance to defend their trophy. Of course Corbyn has to be there
Has Angela started blubbering yet or is she waiting for the cameras to turn up?
Now the PLP will be dreading another candidate throwing their hat in the ring.
Thank goodness. Corbyn has two votes again from the oates/Penna household, that should do the trick. 
You'd think he'd also have to resign after resoundingly losing a no-confidence motion though, we are not in normal times.
So now Corbyn wins the membership challenge...
And then what? The end of days?
If May doesn't call a snap election she's a fool.
And then what? The end of days?
If May doesn't call a snap election she's a fool.
It would be too self indulgent. There has been enough pissing about in British politics recently. We need to get on with the business in hand.
Poor Angela
Tory government till 2030 at least, you'd think.
Don't overreact
Yep, because they'd be soooooooooo electable under Ang.
I was told I was overreacting last year when I said it would be Foot all over again. How's that working out.
Not even to do with Eagle, it's because a split is now the likeliest option. You may think there's a majority in the country that will vote for Corbyn without any moderates on side, I disagree.
You never know. I heard a commentator on the radio earlier saying that May has the hardest job of any peace time PM since the 18th century!
Love the way he's handling the press.
So what are the odds on Corbyn beating Eagle? Never been a better chance to buy money.
She might, be she could also have a greatly increased majority within the year. Then push through boundary reforms. Labour already needed a swing bigger than the one achieved by Blair to win a majority of 1. I'm skeptical they could overturn this within two election cycles.
Yes but the Labour party 'moderates' are as much to blame as he is. Their behaviour has been disgraceful since day one, regardless of what you think of Corbyn. Blaming Corbyn for a split and absolving them of blame is silly.
On an unrelated note, how do the BBC justify employing Iain Watson when his twitter feed shows him to be barely literate?
Those desperate to get rid of Corbyn will be wishing for a snap election.
Labour inevitably getting destroyed at the GE is the only thing that will fget rid of him.
Labour inevitably getting destroyed at the GE is the only thing that will fget rid of him.
On the one hand Corbyn has been shit. On the other the Torys have a teeny majority and have to preside over the single most disruptive economic decision for a generation. Corbyn will never be Prime Minister. But 2 weeks is an age in politics at the moment, let alone 14 years.
It would help everyone who wants to see Labour thrive if we could share the blame around a bit. Yes some MPs never gave him a chance, but plenty did and have reluctantly given up as he has been an ineffective leader. Yes there has been a media agenda, but the left should have expected that and managed it much more effectively: It needed people of Mandelson and Campbell's calibre, not the continual amateur hour of the past 10 months.
One of my arguments at the time was that he'd have no authority within the PLP due to his past behaviour. I'm not absolving them of blame, they've done plenty of dumb stuff, just think Corbyn takes a lot more of it. He didn't have to appoint McDonnell as shadow chancellor, for instance, something that genuinely (and I think justifiably) angered many right from the start.
Nope, most Labour MPs that would lose their seats in a drubbing will be more moderate ones.
Good to see the Tories best weapon allowed on the ballot paper although I was surprised the 18-14 vote was so close. Dinosaur Skinner is doing a grand job in taking us back to the dark ages
Ooh, interesting. NEC apparently also agreed that you have to have been a member for 6 months, and raised the supporter fee to £25.
Eagle or Corbyn?
Pretty much confirms that the recent joiners are very much pro Corbyn, then.
You'd think that it wouldn't cause Corbyn too much worry as the people who elected him ten months ago are still eligible.
Of course, but mostly I think its self-fulfilling prophecy fuelled by Labour's own initial dislike of him. I'm not going to absolve Corbyn of blame, but he could have been the best leader in the world and still the mess Labour have made for him would have made it virtually impossible to succeed.
Seems to me that the difference between Labour and Conservative is the Conservative's keep their infighting in house whereas Labour leak bits to the press. We've just had months of the two prominent Conservative's ripping their leader apart on national TV, yet they look more united than ever, whereas you probably could keep a minute by minute account of whether Corbyn's door was open or closed to MPs thanks to the leaks.
Whoever wins has to deal with the whiff of incompetency that surrounds the Labour name now. If anything, they're better just abolishing it and starting again.
Heh, apparently Unite tabled an amendment for a shorter freeze period, but they couldn't get it passed because Corbyn had left to talk to the press.
Would they really be able to get that passed ? It's states pretty clearly when you join that you will be able to vote in the leadership race. Also raising the fee is very cnuty.
NEC can decide what they want, pretty much.
Many of you will be happy to know, however, that I am now not able to vote as a member
That's clearly not going to be true: At best Corbyn would have made the difference between a vote being tied or not.
NEC can decide what they want, pretty much.
Many of you will be happy to know, however, that I am now not able to vote as a member
You could just pay £25 in the next two days no? Or have I misunderstood that change
Was an amendment, might need a clear majority to go through I suppose? Then again it's George Eaton.
OK, so it's going to be £25 to register as a Supporter for 48 hours from the 18th July to the 20th — somewhat bizarre outcome
@Ubik you can still vote if you fancy paying that
@Ubik you can still vote if you fancy paying that
They had to have Corbyn on the ballot, anything else would have lead to cries of a stitch-up, which would have completely undermined the legitimacy whoever replaced him anyway. The NEC amendment to the voting rules makes things a little harder for Corbyn but divorce now seems inevitable for Labour, the parliamentary party is completely at odds with the membership.
Hmm, there were 32 in the room originally, so if only Corbyn left the closest it could have been is 16-15. Not worth dwelling on tbh, but doesn't seem a hugely credible story. Probably more: "He wasn't there to argue the case" rather than "His vote made the difference".
Either will do the Tories a power of good but Comrade Corbyn really does help remind the country of the dark days of us being ruled by the Unions.
Yeah, fair point.
I don't think Corbyn is quite Arthur Scargill. Though he is obviously heavily backed by the unions, his policies aren't as radical as people assume.
I havent forgotten thach yet.