Have you missed the part where he decides to completely renege on what he said a week ago? I think that was the main gist of it.
Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)
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Have you missed the part where he decides to completely renege on what he said a week ago? I think that was the main gist of it.
Because presumably, in light of what happened since he wrote that, wants to get 'Labour people' working towards the same end?
The PM can certainly fight for as much access as access as possible, however singe market membership is incompatible with her stated objectives. Not without the EU being open to reform, leastwise; and we saw during their negotiations with Cameron that they had only tokens to offer.
So far as Corbyn is concerned, i think he is in some ways repeating the mistakes made by Clinton last year. Disregarding Brexit, his message remains rather nebulous, if probably well intended. He's been in post for nearly a year-and-a-half, yet what policy recognition does he have with voters? There can at times be some merit in a simpler vision, irrespective of the complexities surrounding its execution. Fortunately for Jezza, there isn't a great deal of ambition among his opponents either.
So far as Corbyn is concerned, i think he is in some ways repeating the mistakes made by Clinton last year. Disregarding Brexit, his message remains rather nebulous, if probably well intended. He's been in post for nearly a year-and-a-half, yet what policy recognition does he have with voters? There can at times be some merit in a simpler vision, irrespective of the complexities surrounding its execution. Fortunately for Jezza, there isn't a great deal of ambition among his opponents either.
So the "soft coup" is - roll out Blair, Mandelson and the Murdoch papers to undermine the superb leadership of Corb, then once a safe seat is lost to the government for the first time in decades, cease all coup activities so that shadow-Mao can stop worrying his little head. This makes complete sense.
"where are the competent people?" - me, every day for the last 2 years.
When trying to belittle someone else's logic it's best to stick to something approaching logic yourself.
I also find it odd that a group who couldn't be arsed to oppose austerity pre-Corbyn, but will probably* claim to be against it once he's gone and want to replace him, are so against people changing their minds on something.
*I'd like to think this was a no brainer, but I wouldn't put anything beyond that lot.
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They're pooling their money together for a nuclear bunker.
You've already seen them, according to the PLP they're called Angela Eagle and Owen Smith.
Hah. Have you read that New Yorker piece about Silicon Valley types buying bunkers or homestead type properties in New Zealand and generally engaging in doomsday prep?
Utter muppet
Yup. Couple of loons in there but just living on a NZ beach forever sounds nice.
https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news...abour-needs-relatable-leader-like-tony-blair/
Tony fecking Blair labelled 'relatable' by this complete fecknugget.
Please let her run for the leadership. Pleeeeease!
Tony fecking Blair labelled 'relatable' by this complete fecknugget.
Please let her run for the leadership. Pleeeeease!
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https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news...abour-needs-relatable-leader-like-tony-blair/
Tony fecking Blair labelled 'relatable' by this complete fecknugget.
Please let her run for the leadership. Pleeeeease!
You're suggesting Blair wasn't popular in the mid 90s?
She's previously claimed to have disassociated herself from the party because of him, which is a weird thing to do about someone you find relatable and charismatic. Almost as if a) those claims are bollocks at worst and meaningless at best, b) she herself saw through those things and realised what a lying bastard he was or c) she is the media obsessed self-promoter she constantly complains about being labelled as.
PS. Yet another 'we need a leader like' claim and not a single name offered. I'm sensing a pattern.
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For some strange reason. Jeremy remind me of this quote
https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news...abour-needs-relatable-leader-like-tony-blair/
Tony fecking Blair labelled 'relatable' by this complete fecknugget.
Please let her run for the leadership. Pleeeeease!
I really can't stand her, she's a publicity politician of the worst kind.
I kind of agree with her though, at the start Blair was relatable thats what his team excelled at. They offered something to everyone whilst being a generic enough personality for it to work. Id even argue Cameron was deemed relatable at the start despite his background. People like to relate to someone just above them in the ladder i think.
The backbone of English Conservatism.
Rather than their ability to relate with the voter, i think it was Blair/Cameron's qualities as salesmen. Phillips is looking for electability derived from a positive message, whether it is later found to be lacking or not. Reading the article doesn't reflect particularly well on her desire for sincerity in politics IMO.
All too often, the outrageous or controversial seems to be her go-to approach.
All too often, the outrageous or controversial seems to be her go-to approach.
i don't think these certain MP's have learnt nothing.
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Owen Smiths mocking of the march stands out as particularly loathsome. What a cretin
Alongside Trump it's pretty much a salesman's trick of 'you can fool some of the people some of the time but not all the people all of the time'.
Most people still don't really aknowledge how much of a dictator Blair was in the way he bullied the media and members of his party. He was as bad as Trump but much much better at it. Andrew Marr lost his job as Independent Editor of all newspapers on the back of Blair and cronies bullying. Trump could never pull off something like that against the liberal media as much as he'd love too. Blair only catches flack for Iraq and was seen as a socialist, while the rich got richer and the poor didn't under his watch.
Completely agree.
As shit as Corbyn is I still feel that not voting for Smith was the right decision
Criticising MP's for not mentioning the march on their Twitter feeds strikes me as a bit tenuous and clutching at straws.
Nevertheless, Smith's own tweet was fecking shocking and highlights how terrible he is and how crap that whole coup was last autumn.
Nevertheless, Smith's own tweet was fecking shocking and highlights how terrible he is and how crap that whole coup was last autumn.
This is almost too good to be true for his opponents. SURELY he has an explanation, but on the face of things it appears he has made a hugely embarrassing mistake.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...cing-questions-tax-return-amid-claims-failed/
To summarise, Corbyn today published his 15/16 tax return as a response to the Chancellor's refusal to publish his. The trouble is, it appears that he has failed to declare about £40k of income that he would have been expected to receive as Labour leader in 15/16 in addition to his MP's salary. The only way he can get out of this is if it turns out he refused to take the additional salary for being Labour leader, but there is no indication that this was ever the case. I'd say the most likely explanation is he/his accountant was too lazy to pay attention to the figures they were using on the Self Assessment form and overlooked the additional income somehow...which is a criminal offence.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...cing-questions-tax-return-amid-claims-failed/
To summarise, Corbyn today published his 15/16 tax return as a response to the Chancellor's refusal to publish his. The trouble is, it appears that he has failed to declare about £40k of income that he would have been expected to receive as Labour leader in 15/16 in addition to his MP's salary. The only way he can get out of this is if it turns out he refused to take the additional salary for being Labour leader, but there is no indication that this was ever the case. I'd say the most likely explanation is he/his accountant was too lazy to pay attention to the figures they were using on the Self Assessment form and overlooked the additional income somehow...which is a criminal offence.
It's made worse by the fact that he also fecked up last year by failing to properly declare his pension income and by being late with his submission. To feck up twice like this makes him look like a clown. The obvious response from his opponents will be 'if he can't manage his own basic financial affairs, how is he going to manage the country's?'. A fair point last year, and an even more convincing one this time around.
I actually wouldn't be surprised if he hadn't been taking the Leader of the Opposition salary.
I'd be surprised if he / his corbynista cheerleaders hadn't made a big fuss about it though
For what it's worth
Agreed with both.
This is so Corbyn. Try to make a not unreasonable point, but end up scoring an own goal.
So his accountants put it under state benefit rather than salary potentially in the wrong column? Another desperate attempt to discredit the message quickly by attacking the man.
Anyone taking a cabinet position should release their tax returns. Lets see if the tories are pressed into doing so, Hammond say he won't because he's nothing to hide...
Anyone taking a cabinet position should release their tax returns. Lets see if the tories are pressed into doing so, Hammond say he won't because he's nothing to hide...
Did anyone read Chuka Umunna's article in the New Statesman?
Granted, i had my iPad read it to me, but the words came across as less sincere when compared to his TV appearances for example.
Toward the end of Corbyn's NHS speech, he said:
Whilst true, it also happens to be one of his particular failings. Anyone can criticise the Government, the leader of the opposition is expected to produce workable solutions. In this light i found his speech so...insipid. Certainly, parties need to pressure the government on social care and mental health (make them walk as well as talk), but i would have liked to see a greater emphasis given to preventive medicine. Moreover, i am surprised that he hasn't pushed the idea of a state-operated pharmaceutical arm; more-so considering his ideological roots.
Granted, i had my iPad read it to me, but the words came across as less sincere when compared to his TV appearances for example.
Toward the end of Corbyn's NHS speech, he said:
Whilst true, it also happens to be one of his particular failings. Anyone can criticise the Government, the leader of the opposition is expected to produce workable solutions. In this light i found his speech so...insipid. Certainly, parties need to pressure the government on social care and mental health (make them walk as well as talk), but i would have liked to see a greater emphasis given to preventive medicine. Moreover, i am surprised that he hasn't pushed the idea of a state-operated pharmaceutical arm; more-so considering his ideological roots.
Well it doesn't take Stephen Hawking to work out how this going..
But here he is anyway
Stephen Hawking: Jeremy Corbyn is a disaster for Labour
But here he is anyway
Stephen Hawking: Jeremy Corbyn is a disaster for Labour
Lots of hurt feelings on Twitter. The man is a disaster. No two ways about it.
I mostly posted the tweet to show the difference between him and the Labour MPs criticising him. If(God forbid)there's another leadership challenge than this sort stuff(The MP's not tweeting and Corbyn at the rally)will just be used(Rightly) against the person challenging and we will have another pointless race.
As for the content, I would agree with you. Hopefully it's because the general election is still a far bit away.
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Anyone see the YouGov poll of Labour members yesterday? Fascinating if you're into that stuff. Some of the bits that stood out...
http://election-data.co.uk/labour-membership-poll-results-2017
- Sizeable drop in support for Corbyn, but he'd still win another leadership election easily
- Big split between older and newer members over Corbyn - among members who joined before Corbyn, he has approval ratings of -46%. Among members who joined after its +36%
- 68% of Labour members support a second referendum
- Only 92% of Labour members would vote Labour in a General Election (!)
http://election-data.co.uk/labour-membership-poll-results-2017
Looks similar to the situation after the referendum in most aspects.
Not at all... he is fantastic and on course for a huge majority in the next general election... if only the Blairites like me would give him time to establish himself. (Or that's what I've been told for the last 18 months or so)
It's a good job the libs are shambolic as well otherwise his figures would probably look even worse