C'mon we all know smear tactics like that are only every used by blairite scum... Or some other utterly rubbish excuse from the corbynister brigade
Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Well this is bad. Thread is worth reading.
And there in lies the problem by using vague clauses to define the IHRA definition of antisemitism. Those with an agenda will abuse it to silence any criticism.
At the very least it’ll make quite a few very nervous to express any sort of solidarity with the Palestinian issue out of fear of being tenuously in violation with the clauses.
Yep it was always a stupid idea to accept the IHRA. Especially in a place like the labour party where no one is acting in any sort of honest way and where everything is done for some sort inside political power(Both on the left & right of the party).
What wait! Who would have thought that!!!???
Also now that Guardian headline makes sense.
It's funny how people want to look at vote share from the last election.....except for the Tory one, which shows May on the same % share as Thatcher in her 1983 landslide. Presumably Corbyn supporters begrudgingly accept Theresa May as one of the most awesome political forces in this country since the second world war.
If you happen to think she isn't then you're surrendering all right to point to Corbyn's share of the vote at the exact same election.
It's one or the other. Either Corbyn did well and May is the most successful leader in a generation....or you agree vote share is a highly dubious measurement of things in a FPTP political system. It cannot be both. You don't get to pretend only one side of the coin counts.
If you happen to think she isn't then you're surrendering all right to point to Corbyn's share of the vote at the exact same election.
It's one or the other. Either Corbyn did well and May is the most successful leader in a generation....or you agree vote share is a highly dubious measurement of things in a FPTP political system. It cannot be both. You don't get to pretend only one side of the coin counts.
Alternatively, you could recognise the stupidly obvious fact that there are factors outside of who the current leader of each party is that affect the outcomes of general elections in a significant way.
Also, if you took a break from building ridiculous straw men to actually pay attention to reality you'd probably realise that George Eaton is not a Corbyn supporter.
JC would have an icepick in his skull and the civil service would be retasked with photo shopping JC from history (and setting up gulags / reeducation camps for "blairites")
Oscie is literally the Frank Grimes of this thread.
Ah your being far too kind, there's no way that lot is getting reeducated.
Well by re-educate I meant teaching us how to die
Have you ever heard of a thing called "context"?
The "context" of his leadership being derided so badly that losing less worse than feared to the worst PM post-war is considered something to cheer?
For those of you wondering why the Labour right doesn't spend much time thinking about policies, Lucy Powell has answered your queries.
Quick bit of advise for Lucy - people who don't use the internet shouldn't talk about the internet. But of course the labour right answer to being call blairites on the internet is a already bigger surveillance state(Thus proving the criticism correct), ''It seems CorbynisMao69 called me bellend, clearly the logic and rational thing to do ban this person from the internetz and also find where they live and work.''
Tony's got more than a few preferred methods, ask him.
Emily Thornberry says in tomorrow’s Financial Times that May’s Brexit deal will fail, that she’ll be gone by Christmas and that this could feasibly lead to a general election...
Where the choice will be between a Tory party determined to push for an unobtainable Brexit, and a Labour party determined to push for an unobtainable Brexit. Woot!
Finally a REAL choice!
Doubt it. The Tories won't call one for fear of losing seats.
Honestly I see no possibility mogg or Johnson oust may and then call an election when they don't have to
there are no words
What is appalling about Jeremy Corbyn criticising bankers and Conservatives being in bed together. If he has "wealthy bankers = jews" stuck in his head, that's his problem.
I don't get it either. Seems a leap. I don't think Corbyn is antisemitic, however I do think he's spent his entire political life in circles in which casual antisemitism is something which many people are comfortable with. I think the party's failing to get to get to grips with the issue is likely more down to him being incompetent and lazy and ill-suited for the job he never really wanted in the first place, as much as anything else.
I think that's the closest I've ever got to being nice to him.
Just thought it's worth mentioning the video has nearly 1.5 million views. Which ok is nothing compare to that cat playing the keyboard but still pretty impressive for a British MP.
Droopy Dog hasn't taken to life after fame well.
Nope, this is about his policy on Israel, which is why no matter what processes are developed to tackle antisemitism the attacks will continue and you'll get overreaching like this.
Completely agree with that. I've long thought of him as being a bit too "simple" for the job, which is to say he's a nice, somewhat regular guy who was never going to live up to the expectations that many had of him as a leader when they swept him into power.
Named 'Bevause' which the illiterate tweeter used.
As much as I hate Brexit I really think it would be a mistake for Labour to go for a second referendum. It would go down like a cup of cold sick in many constituencies. Plus if the government collapses before Brexit and it's official Labour policy to hold a 2nd referendum then that's a massive problem for any government.
What Labour needs to do is oppose any Tory deal, defeat Brexit in Parliament and try to trigger a general election running on a soft Brexit platform.
What Labour needs to do is oppose any Tory deal, defeat Brexit in Parliament and try to trigger a general election running on a soft Brexit platform.
I don't get that...the vast majority of Labour voters/members want a 2nd referendum. It takes quite the logical acrobat to argue the electorally suicidal thing to do is give what most of your support want.
There is no 'soft' Brexit option, only the complete nonsense that believes that somehow we can retain the benefits of membership of the EU, CU and SM if Corbyn negotiates it. A man whose leadership seems entirely paralysed on a regular basis, whose own supporters seem to view as entirely under siege whenever a newspaper journalists says something mean about him, is supposedly the man to not only take on the toughest negotiation in history, but get a deal absolutely nobody aside from Nadine Dorries and JRM thinks is even possible.
I don't get the contortion that says backing a position most of your supporters back is somehow the wrong thing to do and that somehow the smart plan is to do what very few of your supporters want you to do else miss out on votes of a constituency of people very unlikely to vote for you in the first place.
There is no 'soft' Brexit option, only the complete nonsense that believes that somehow we can retain the benefits of membership of the EU, CU and SM if Corbyn negotiates it. A man whose leadership seems entirely paralysed on a regular basis, whose own supporters seem to view as entirely under siege whenever a newspaper journalists says something mean about him, is supposedly the man to not only take on the toughest negotiation in history, but get a deal absolutely nobody aside from Nadine Dorries and JRM thinks is even possible.
I don't get the contortion that says backing a position most of your supporters back is somehow the wrong thing to do and that somehow the smart plan is to do what very few of your supporters want you to do else miss out on votes of a constituency of people very unlikely to vote for you in the first place.
The state of these cnuts.
Jeremy Corbyn's spending plan for public services backed by majority
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...g-plan-for-public-services-backed-by-majority
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...g-plan-for-public-services-backed-by-majority
Tony Blair is an imbecile.